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IIRC I believe it was a throw from "the other Allen"

That's pretty "meta" don't you think? Who are these two people? I read truckloads of criticism of McDermott and of Beane around here, so you can't mean them. It also implies that you feel hiring Dorsey was a mistake. There may have been a better offensive signal caller on the market, but there aren't any guarantees they would have produced a top-5 offense that never stalled out with the same player personnel in their first year, either. I have had similar questions. I felt that Daboll and Allen built a relationship based on love, like the famous joke about the "reliable mule trained with loving kindness" where Daboll had to hit Allen with a board a few times as a rookie and young player to "get his attention". Now that Allen is "the Franchise", I'm not sure Dorsey has the same clout or the same ability to rein Allen in. McDermott sounded really determined to do so in a couple of off-season pressers, but I'm not sure how that will play out.

Statistically, there's no basis for the Dorsey hate. The Bills had a top 5 offense in yards, yards per play, points, 1st downs. 8th in passing yards, 3rd in passing TDs, 6th in NY/A. There were flaws with the offense -as you point out, poor redzone offense during much of the season and also poor running game. People who watch film obsessively, like the Cover1 guys, stated that there wasn't as much overlap between Daboll and Dorsey's passing game as one might think there would be. A number that sticks in my mind as one they threw out, was about 30%, but no promises as to its accuracy. I also think it's a bit of a challenge to separate out the difference in personnel. Davis vs. Emmanuel Sanders route running, Beasley vs. McKenzie. Then, the OL really struggled to pass protect at times, so Knox and Singletary were asked to chip. So really, I got nothing much as far as helping you understand the Dorsey hate. People perceived the offense as struggling at times, and at times it did, but maybe not as much or for as long as people thought. I do think there was a learning curve where at first, we had success from teams that weren't expecting what Dorsey did, then it became predictable and they defended it well, then he adjusted. That happens with every OC though. I also think people have short memories and forget how Daboll's offense got spanked during the Pittsburgh opener in 2021, got stopped at a number of critical points vs. Tennesee, and was impotent against the Jaguars. Was Dorsey perfect out of the gate, no, but objectively he did better than many would have you believe.

Your posting history suggests this claim lacks credibility. Exactly

Proof? I Don't Think So. He's wearing a helmet with a visor. Bills coulda put anyone out there in a #14 jersey. Smokescreen! Conspiracy!

Oh, Dear. This is NOT a good look.

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And frankly, everyone needs SOME mental and physical down time from every job. It's mentally and psychologically unhealthy to be 100% obsessively focused all the time and never take a break. It's the balance that's key.

What if. I personally don't see the point in total speculation. I was willing to speculate initially that the issue might have to do with a personal emergency based on the facts of Diggs' brother's potential legal issues, but that's 1) based on information that bro was involved in a nasty crime in LA 2) clearly not the issue at hand based on statements from Bakari, Miller, and Allen. I could come up with a bunch of different what if's of my own, what is the point? How do you know?

What exactly do you want Josh to do? He agreed to talk to the press. The press spent 11 minutes relentlessly grilling him about Stef. Now personally, I think it would be better if Josh had said a la McDermott "I'm very concerned he's not here, he's a big part of our offense, I believe things will be worked out", and then like Poyer has done "I'd really like to talk about football - I'll be happy to answer any questions about football". But a bunch of people here are saying that McDermott blew the situation up by his brief answer then moving on, and he should have provided more info. So which is it? I also think Josh handled it the way he did for a reason, whatever that reason may be (and I don't know what the reason may be)

Yes. Did Allen probably make some poor choices, and some poor throws? Yes. Does he get a lion's share of the blame because the QB has to lead the team and rally them when they're down? Yes. The QB has to be the one to rally the team when they're down 21 points in the 1st Q as the Chiefs were to the Texans in 2019 Div round or losing 24-14 to the Eagles at the half in this past SB. Was the team all-around just getting their asses whipped? Also yes. The DL was getting pushed around. The CB were getting out-physicalled. The OL was getting pwn'd. The Bills run game was nonexistant, the Bengals were running over us. It's not just on Josh. And if Diggs is putting it all on Josh, that just goes to show that all the stuff he said about "my QB can't be wrong" and understanding how difficult it is to be a QB and understanding that Josh can't force him the ball, is was just so much "cap" coming from Diggs mouth.

It's an interesting point. I disagree with you. A fool, to me, is someone who is unable to understand How Things Work. In some modern lingo, I would call it logical or naturalistic intelligence. I think Diggs understands How Things Work and has high logical intelligence, to master the nuances of an NFL playbook, understand defenses and how they will react to him, and succeed in business endeavors. The QB is needed to throw the WR the ball. The QB handles the ball every play. The QB is the Big Man in the public eye. I think Stef Gets That. I don't think AB gets that, which is why we get stupidity from AB over stuff like needing a new helmet that is authorized for NFL use, or not paying his personal chef or his movers. I'd be shocked if that happened with Diggs. What I'm suggesting is that I think Diggs is low in what is sometimes called "Emotional Intelligence". He sees stuff as about him. Example 1: any in Buffalo are without power and low on food and can't travel, to earn money or buy needed medical supplies and food. People have died. Diggs is tweeting about how his chef can't get there so he has to cook for himself, 0 of 5 stars does not recommend. Example 2: Diggs knows he's a great WR and can help the team. But he doesn't see the emotional impact of him visually ranting and arguing with his QB on the sideline to throw him the ball, has on a QB who may be struggling due to torn UCL causing erratic ball placement issues/changed throwing motion to a less accurate one; lack of OL protection, etc. It's all about him. Example 3: If there are issues between Diggs and Allen, Diggs could have resolved them at any time during the off season. He could have shown up to OTAs and resolved them there. Instead, while (per Josh) "not wanting this to be a distraction", he chose to air them in the most dramatic way, showing up for mandatory minicamp and then leaving the building. Even if he's sore about legit issues, he seems to lack awareness of what a dilemma that poses for the coaches who are trying to assimilate new players into their culture and build a team.

This is brilliant. Well played! You left out the UB soccer star, unless the bartender was also a soccer star and a student at UB (busy woman).

If that were true that Diggs can't stand Josh getting recognition because Diggs wants it, then Diggs is a fool. The QB is always going to be The Man, both inside and outside the building. A good QB-WR duo gains lots of recognition for the WR, but it's always symbiotic. Without the QB, the WR is nothing. I don't think Diggs is a fool. Egocentric, lacking some self-awareness, attention-seeking, and a bit petulant - Yes. A fool, No. This makes zero sense. The playbook lists...wait for it...plays. Lots and lots of plays. Hundreds of plays for every conceivable situation. The receivers are not listed in the playbook as "Diggs Davis Shakir Sherfield Harty". They are listed as X, Y, Z, with the receiver assigned to each role on each play determined on a play by play, sometimes game by game, basis. The playbook itself does not reveal offensive priorities or gameplans.

First of all, in a trade, there is no "next year's dead cap". The dead cap all falls into the current season as far as I know. There is no "post June 1" designation for trades. In March, prior to the option bonus and the restructure, it would have cost us $22.7M in dead cap to trade Diggs. The trade partner would have taken on a fully guaranteed $16M option bonus and a fully guaranteed $7.9M salary, a bargain for a WR of Diggs caliber. After the option bonus was exercised before March 21 but before the restructure, it would have cost us $38.7M to trade Diggs. Then after the restructure, it rose to $45.44M. I have no idea where you're getting $11.8 and $13.2M. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/stefon-diggs-16872/

It's not a "take", it was factually true. Thielen was, in fact, the #1 receiver on the Vikes from 2016-2018. In 2019, it was Diggs, but Thielen was injured and missed 6 games. It's probably worth noting that the 2019 season - the season where Diggs unleashed drama, missed practices, and got fined for it - was his best season on the Vikes by far.

He can't be gone, cap wise. Whatever beef he has, they need to slaughter it, butcher it, wrap it in freezer paper, and pack it into the chest freezer. Stuff Diggs agent Bakari said and one of the insiders tweeted seem to me to indicate Diggs/Bakari may try to claim that because he checked in, got his physical, and met with coaches (but vamoosed before practice and didn't practice) he was "present" for mandatory minicamp, thus no fine. I wouldn't think the NFL would allow that to stand.

No. Sorry, Cow-Man, "without the drama" really can't be done here.

Jesus. Could anyone possibly illustrate a "women are property men do with as they choose" attitude any more clearly? 🤮🤮🤮

Nah, it's not a new allegation. It was all over the Josh Britt breakup rumors thread. Britt told her hairdresser Josh was cheating on her last fall OR Britt found out when she scrolled through Josh's phone at the team Halloween party which she and Josh hosted (because every hostess scrolls through her BF phone at a party she's hosting) OR Britt found out when the girl texted Josh a sonogram the night before the Bengals game causing Britt to blow a fuse and trash the place and Josh had to sleep in a hotel (never mind the whole team routinely sleeps in hotels the night before home games) OR The girl left it on their porch (never mind Josh lives in a gated property with a long driveway) the night before the Bengals game, causing Britt to blow a fuse and trash the place and Josh had to sleep in a hotel (never mind the whole team routinely sleeps in hotels the night before home games) OR The neighbors heard a ruckus and called OP police (never mind that Josh's house has a lot of property and I don't think the neighbors overlook or could overhear much of anything) The woman in question is a bartender OR a UB soccer player OR Diggs former girlfriend (Diggs is a Player - does he even have a girlfriend or former girlfriend right now?) OR there is no woman of significance to the relationship (even if cheating occurred, many WAG of superstars tolerate some cheating - Patti Thomas, Jill Kelly etc) OR Oh and toss Hailee Steinfeld into the mix, someone replied to a tweet about Josh's date with her "he cheated on Britt with her" and Britt actually "liked" that reply. It's all "heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another" stuff. That last is the most plausible to me. Britt was on Kelly Stafford's podcast in December and Stafford talked about having to give Matt an ultimatum at one point to move their relationship forward. Britt was clearly taking photos during the blizzard where Josh had to dig his way to the gate. She was photographed with Josh after the Miami game. She was there at the Bengals game and posted afterwards. They went on a friends vacation in Feb and a Hawaii vacation in Feb/Mar. Then they broke up. Seems plausible they went on vacay, discussed where their relationship was headed. Maybe Britt tried the Kelly Stafford ultimatum "married or through" thing, and Josh said "through".

I agree that Josh's presser was Chock Full of Conciliation. But upthread, we had guys saying that the issue was Josh (and the Bills) were Done with walking on egg shells for Diggs and putting up with Diva behavior, and Diggs needed a minute to adjust. The two aren't compatible. If you're Done with the Diva STuff, you don't spend 11 minutes in a presser trying to placate and conciliate.

Unless it happened at the team Halloween party according to a hairdresser known by the other half