Beck Water

That's my question. He didn't practice today and was reported to be off to the side, working with trainers (as seen in this glimpse on the ladder). I can't find anything about whether he practiced on Day 1.

And a little glimpse of Von Miller on the ladder (and Justin Shorter) Anyone hear what the situation is with Shorter?

That's irony. Right?

I agree with you. But, strangely enough, there's this organization called "Stolen Valor" which investigates people who falsely claim all sorts of military service and military honors.

Maybe all of these player sources folks have know what's going on with Stef, but Mitch Morse doesn't know and doesn't seem too interested. He's busy. He's sure it'll get sorted, and when it does, he'll know. Full interview. Believe this was Tuesday, after practice where Diggs showed up for individual drills. https://www.buffalobills.com/video/mitch-morse-they-are-working-through-it He's asked about what the problem is. He says he doesn't understand the "full spectrum of it" which makes him "blissfully naive". "To answer your question, I don't totally know what's going on so I can't answer it, but I'm sure it will work itself out one way or another and however it does, we'll all know together"

He's insane. You heard it from Von Miller (this is from Day 1) https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/minicamp-observations-khalil-shakir-making-push-at-wr-with-good-spring/article_0c5db51e-0a32-11ee-84bb-7fcbe2eec50c.html#tracking-source=mp-in-article Dezmon Patman sighting: I don't know about Day 1, but apparently our 6'4" 223 lb 5th round pick, Justin Shorter, spent Day 2 working on the sidelines with trainers.

Some good photos from TBN photog Harry Scull Jr:

I thought the same about Doyle, just based upon the injury and the fact that he's a Big Man and needs to build up a lot of muscle to hold the whole thing together. I hope he's not rushing it because he knows he's a "bubble player". For some reason, I thought Sherfield was older. I see that you're correct. Shakir's speed and RAC ability were never in question last season. It was his ability to read the zone defense and choose the correct route to get open that were issues. Sounds as though Harty has been making plays From Day 1: since it was a running play, I wondered if that was a mistake and it was to Nyheim Hines? Speaking of HInes, anyone hear anything about him and how he's doing? I had heard he had some drops in OTAs.

LOL I have a crazy ass memory. Can't remember what I said 10 minutes ago or where I put my phone. Can remember all sorts of junk. I think at one point maybe after he scored a kickoff or punt return TD including some pretty slick moves and good use of his blockers, a reporter asked McKenzie if he'd ever played any RB at any level - HS or college. He said "no 'cuz I played with Sony Michel" "How about in HS?" "Played with him there, too" Ended that line of questioning!!!

TRANSPARENT ALUMINUM!!!!

How much are you paying to buy that? Not too much I hope. Although, "smart" is a relative term.

Are you his agent, or his mom? 😁 Seriously, I love the passion and the enthusiasm. D1 or D2 was raised only in the context of how hard it is for a small kid to get D1 offers (Buffalo716 may have some experience there). I hope he will stay healthy and shine on the Bills, but I'm a bit skeptical he will become a WR2 at all, much less "easily". Now sometimes the #2 WR plays a lot from the slot. In yards, Beasley was our #2 in 2020 and 2021, in part because injuries meant Davis/Brown then Davis/Sanders were splitting time as the #2. In receptions, unquestioned #2. It's gonna depend upon how the Bills see Kincaid's role. As far as playing outside - I don't see a guy with 28" arms being able to gain a release and hold off a handsy corner, whether his name is Shakir or Hardy. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong.

There's friction when there are tough conversations and people say things that are hard to hear. Then maybe you have some hard to hear stuff you want to say in return. You process them, you speak in your turn, you calm down, the people you're talking to process and calm down, you all move on. That's what being a professional means. The key point is to break off talks before you or someone else speaks what I call "bridge burning words". Ever hear Allen talk about his contract negotiations, I think it was with Kyle Brandt or maybe Pat McAfee? When asked how they went, he said (sarcastically) "Oh, Super Smooth. Nobody sat in a room and got upset. But it's done now and I'm looking forward to the season." It was clear there was friction over some issue, but also clear it got worked out.

I appreciate your take on this, but what it would boil down to, is that by trying to avoid a mistake, McDermott blew it up nationally. If your scenario is correct, why not just tell the press Diggs was an excused absence from minicamp? If he'd done that, the question about "how concerned are you about that?" would never have been asked, and if it was, he would have said something canned like "I'm always concerned when one of our players is not out there practicing". I think he's a little more savvy than to respond to an excused absence like that. I think he was taken by surprise, and somewhat alarmed, when he learned Diggs had left and wouldn't practice. In that scenario it's true that he told Diggs to take a break (from their talks, not from practice), it's true that he excused him so that he wouldn't be fined - but one proactively and one retroactively. I think what he said had its intended effect as it motivated Diggs agent Bakari to reach out to Diggs and try to settle things down/straighten them out, and McDermott was more than willing to take it all on his shoulders to keep things settled and straightened. If you are correct about Frazier actually being relieved of his duties/fired, then Beane and McDermott are both lying through their teeth about it when they insist it was Frazier's decision and that if he hadn't decided to take a year off, he'd still be the DC of the team. Is that your belief? It's well known Daboll wanted "out" as in becoming a HC. It was pretty clear there was conflict between Daboll and McDermott at times, mostly about the lack of run game and the amount of running Josh Allen was asked to do. Whether that conflict rose to the level of Daboll wanting out in a lateral move vs maybe kvetching over a beer, I can't say; the only place I've seen it was in Flores' racist hiring practices suit against the NFL, where it reads more like a "I'll say whatever" recruiting pitch than a serious search for a lateral move on Daboll's part. He got his HC gig, so we'll never know I guess. With this, one can only agree.

I think that latter is what it actually was, unless a W2 was posted and someone thought better and deleted it. I said once to a work friend of mine (very very solid guy) "Smart is, as Smart does".

In fact, wasn't that how Josh got his shot at Wyoming? Buhl sent someone to scout another player on his JuCo team, and while they were there, the QB "popped" at them? Anyway, looping back to Harty - he clearly has the potential to be a dynamic player, both as a returner and as a receiver. According to what Beane commented when he was signed, he may have some skills they hoped McKenzie would develop but he never did - the ability to track the ball and catch the deep throws, the demonstrated ability for YAC (though I still think YAC have a lot to do with Allen and/or play design not making decisive short throws while the YAC gettin' is good) But I def. see him as a high ceiling/risk of low floor kind of guy due to injury potential (not because he's small, because he's had them)

McKenzie not only starred at a top Florida HS, he played on the same team as Sony Michel. So when colleges came to scout Michel, they saw Isaiah.

You missed the ***** apple pie (literally) the discussion of horse ***** (literally) and the pictures of puppies and kittens.

"You expect me to believe the wings were already gone when you got there?"

They're none of them big, but Harty is the smallest at 5'6" 170. Crowder 5'8 185 McKenzie 5'8 173 Beasley 5'8 174 Crowder struggled with injuries. Hasn't played a full season since 2019 and as we know, went out after a broken leg last season. McKenzie has struggled with hammies but aside from that concussion last season he's been durable Beasley was a warrior who played through everything but maybe shouldn't have The point is for McKenzie and Beasley, they contributed massively in the regular season but when it was all on the line and the refs were allowing more physical play, they could be taken out (and were) Physics has a tendency to win out, in the end.

I hear you - and it won't hurt your lawn - but check out that link. It's a real problem. It seems there's a market for just about everything, somewhere.

I know there were reasons that Beane targeted him. The problem Harty has had is staying healthy. He's never had a full season. He spent most of last season on IR with turf toe. He's had repeated problems with tweaked hamstrings. His ceiling is high, but he's by no means a sure contributor. So Harty didn't play D1. Assumption College, that's DII, correct? He did get to the league, and make it onto the field as an offensive player for 13 games in 2021. Also led the league in returns his rook year. He can ball, no doubt.

I'm not sure, but I think you might need something about puppies and kittens in there for that WHAT A GUY!! promotion.

Speaking for myself, last pre-season I pretty much drank the Kool-Aid that Saffold would return to the form he had with the Rams and that Aaron Kromer would weld together a workable OL that could both run and pass protect. I had a second glass around the notion that Gabe Davis and Isaiah McKenzie were both ready to Take That Step and that Shakir would contribute as a 5th round rookie from a small program. In hindsight, I feel a bit foolish, but we did win 13 reg season games and end as the #2 offense in football, so not too foolish. This season, I feel that Kromer legitimately has more to work with on OL including Conner McGovern and a top OG from the draft. Still a bit concerned about OT, especially RT, though I think if Edwards is fully recovered from his concussion he may compete there. Also interested by Brandon Shell. I feel that Trent Sherfield is solid and Harty is that low risk, high reward guy. Overall I feel the talent level is potentially higher on offense, it just remains to see how Allen and the coaches can meld it together.

get all the ***** they can shovel, absolutely free. no cap. no 🎩 either