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Dan Orlovsky said they aren't supposed to disclose who they are voting for....

C'mon man. That was 3rd and goal. Exactly where in that film clip do you feel Kincaid should have "gone hot"? Does the Bills not much good for him to turn around just past the LOS

Yo, Mr. Straw, did I call Arnold a "game manager" or say he was a game manager on that team? Saying he is elevated by having the 3 receivers he has and the run game they have, which I did, is not an equivalent statement. [Last season, Jefferson missed 7 games and Addison was a rookie, so no, the receiver corps was not there all of last year. And they didn't have as good of a run game, no Aaron Jones]

I guess I could best sum up my feelings as "tenuous" On the one hand, in several of the games where we've fared the worst, we were missing key players on defense Ravens Terrell Bernard, Taron Johnson, lost Rapp during the game Texans Taron Johnson, Rapp. Bernard 1st game back and he didn't look good Rams all starters to begin the game, Ingram for Douglas in 4Q Milano 2nd game back and he didn't look good Lions Douglas (Elam played), Rapp (Bishop and Jackson played) Patriots Milano/Williams (Spector played), Douglas (Elam played), Rapp and Hamlin (Bishop and Lewis played) So, when you're down to your 2nd or even 3rd or 4th player at a position, it makes a difference On the other hand, coming back to the Rams game - the word I would use to describe the Bills D at the start of that game is "disinterested". They simply didn't seem to "bring the juice", like they still had their party hats on and didn't expect a lot of fight from a 7-6 team. Well surprise surprise that team is now 10-6 and winning their division. I think when we have our starters healthy and we come out ready to play intense and physical, we can stand with almost anyone I think we don't have enough physically dominant players to win their matchups if we aren't highly motivated or enough backup depth if we are missing more than 1-2 guys. I also think that if a physically dominant RB like Henry is healthy and comes ready to play, he is A Lot for us.

The perception (and I rather share it) is that Josh is elevating the team, while Darnold is being elevated by his team. I'm pretty much tickled for Sam that he's having such a resurgence in his career. But he's got a very good RB in Aaron Jones and in Jefferson, Addison, and Hockenson he's possibly got the 2nd best receiving corps in the league, right after the Bengals. I did NOT have "4 QB from the 2018 Draft Class In Playoffs" on my Bingo Card

In terms of points given up, the Lions D is #9. The Bills D is #11. Both Ds have been decimated by injury. I saw a better defensive game vs. the 49ers than I expected because apparently the Lions got a couple of guys back.

It's not. It's never been. It's supposed to be about the impact of the contribution. That was Spencer Brown's point in his interview that's being interpreted as "taking a shot" at Lamar. His point is last year, when Allen had better stats, the MVP conversation was all "it's not about stats, it's about the impact of his contribution to the team". OK, fair enough. But now, this year, don't turn around and say "look, Lamar has better stats". As far as impact on the team, taking nothing away from Jackson who is a great player and who has worked hard to improve his abilities as a passer, but from what I see the addition of Derrick Henry and the year he's had, have had the biggest impact on the Ravens success. The Ravens didn't beat the Bills because Lamar Jackson threw for 156 yds. They beat the Bills because Derrick Henry rushed for 199 yds. When I've watched the Ravens play, Henry jumps off the screen as a difference maker for them.

I like the guy in the comments who says "Lamar's receivers get open because his rushing abilities let him buy time for them to get open" Tell me you haven't watched Josh Allen play very much, without telling me you haven't watched Josh Allen play very much I personally agree with you. I kind of laughed when Rodgers alluded to his own 4 MVP awards, do you think he wouldn't trade them for 4 more Superbowl appearances?

None of us did, including the Bills FO....that's why we wanted the Vikes draft pick LOL

Hamlin was inactive. Rapp and Bishop played 100% of the snaps at safety.

When you're playing backups or 3rd string vs starters, it does make a difference. When there are enough of the starters down, the defense drops off. Walk me through it. The Vikes are 14-2. If the Lions lose tonight, they'll be 13-3. Next week, when the Lions play the Vikes, if the Lions win they'll be 14-3, and the Vikes will be 14-3 - but the Lions would own the tiebreaker. So if they lose tonight, they still have a chance at the #1 seed next week. If they win tonight, then they still need to beat the Vikes next week because if the Vikes win they'll be 15-2.

Yep. Everyone was led by Tim Graham to totally dunk on Whaley his last year here with the stat about the Bills having the fewest players they drafted on the team. Like that meant Whaley didn't draft talent. Except that Whaley did draft talent, both as Nix understudy and as GM - shown by the fact that a number of players he drafted had decent careers or are still in the league. But the Bills moved on because every time we swapped coaches - from Gailey to Marrone to Ryan to McDermott - the players did not suit their scheme so they were jettisoned or left to walk in FA, in favor of FA or draftees who were a better scheme fit. Continuity provides a talent advantage.

My guess is that Shavers has been that guy who works extra-hard on the scout team and is always there when one of the backup QB wants extra passing practice. So yes, that was quite an impressive catch and run, but I'm gonna guess the game ball is also recognition for being a great and hardworking teammate all season Healing and rust-scraping, sure The playtime percentage data are out on NFL.com Some interesting observations: -Rapp and Bishop played 100% of the snaps on D. I take that as saying, they want to get Bishop more playing time with Rapp in there as the traffic director to keep things under control (and maybe he has a bit of rust too). -The starting CB trio of Benford, Douglas, and Johnson went out earlier than I'd thought - only played 63% of the snaps -Starting linebackers Bernard and Milano even earlier than that, 59% and 56% of the snaps -Ed Oliver, who normally takes ~70% of the snaps, took 43%. Rousseau, who has been taking 70-80% of the snaps, took 41% -DQJ 35% of the snaps, but he was down last week as well, 40% vs NWE vs the 50-55%. Something may be going on there -Von Miller 22%, down from his 35-40%, but he played 44% last week vs NWE which represented a high since he returned from suspension. I guess if it's TL;DR the summary is that the starting defense was only in a bit over half the snaps of the game. Note that doesn't correspond to "first half of the game" because the Jets offensive plays weren't split evenly across the halves

I thought this was pretty freakin' fascinating - while Belicheck was talking McAfee and Co seemed transfixed as well!

I thought practice squad elevations became unlimited for the playoffs? Was that just a one-year thing?

LOL. I have a feeling there are a couple of games that are going to be "No, seriously, does either team want to win this one?" No it's not. You can get a pickup truck load of draft picks for it.

Exactly. We call those "TFG" throws, for what we believe the DC is saying as he throws his clipboard. And yet, Collinsworth goes on endlessly about Daniels and Penix doing "things only Mahomes and Burrow can do" and I'm like "Seriously?"

? Can not find ridiculous Rivera comments?

I was actually thinking about that during the Falcons Commanders game last night, when Collinsworth was being his usual ball-laving self over the new hot talents of Penix and Daniels. Daniels was running, and getting shoved back and I was thinking "wow, if that were Josh the other guy woulda gone down". And Collinsworth was talking about his arm strength and I was thinking "huh? that just looked like an ordinary throw to me, nice throw but nothing above the ordinary" It had me reflecting on how Josh has made the extraordinary, ordinary for us. Yeah, I get your point, but Reporters Gonna Reporter, what's a Sporty Guy gonna do? But given that he just had the shittiest performance of his career, smirking about his 4 MVP seasons seemed like a huge gap in self-awareness. He had other options, like saying "I appreciate the question, but we just lost the game, and that's what's on my mind right now."

Really? It would only be asked of great QB who have played at an MVP level or won AP NFL MVP. The list of current players who have done that is Lamar Jackson, Pat Mahomes, and Aaron Rodgers. Which of Jackson or Mahomes do you think would have exploded? I think both of Jackson and Mahomes would have said something about "fun to watch Josh, focused on watching D during the season, we're different players" or maybe "we lost and I'm still thinking about the game and how I could have played better, I can't really answer that right now".

It's really a good question. Do you play Milano, who knows exactly where he's supposed to be, but who might not get there fast enough or tackle well enough? Or do you play Williams, who will get there quickly and tackle hard, but who is still struggling to figure out what gap he's supposed to mind or what his assignment is when the offense changes post-snap.

Really? I thought the smirk and the reference to his own 4 MVP seasons when he just lost the game and played like crap was kind of pathetic. "Gracious" is not the word I would use to describe it. A guy who fancies himself as a veteran leader should never explode in an interview, he should know how to handle himself in public by now. Muki Hawkins LOL

I kind of thought it was a douche, self-aggrandizing response to reference his own 4 MVP titles in his response when he just played like crap and let his team down. He could easily have said something like "Josh is playing at an MVP level this season and it's fun to watch, but we're really too different as QBs to answer that question; I wasn't the rushing threat he is, for example" (or something like that). Or he could have said "I've really been focused on trying to play better and help the Jets, which means watching the defenses; I haven't seen enough of Josh's games to answer"

Not at all. The Pats can dangle the #1 overall pick to the highest bidder and bring home a boatload of picks from a team that wants to jump the Pats

Is Woody Johnson's son seriously named Brick? I may be alone in this, but I don't think Ron Rivera would be the dumbest choice the Jets could make right now. He's not sexy, but he seems to run a disciplined team and to be able to get the most out of some of his players. He had Heinike looking like a servicable QB for example.