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Second recommendation of Gabriel's Gate. My kid spent a summer living in downtown Buffalo as an intern and she and her friends really liked it. To the OP, you might want to look into the special "Game Day Express" bus NFTA is advertising as returning for the 2023-2024 season. $5 each way They say they haven't finalized the stops, but last year it ran from the NFTA Terminal on Ellicott Street & North Division downtown, and drops off at Gate 1 of the stadium. Board the return bus on Abbott Road after the game. I google mapped it as a bit over a mile and a half from the Lenox Hotel. There are also a number of other hotels a bit closer. https://www.wgrz.com/article/sports/nfl/bills/nfta-game-day-express-returning-for-2023-2024-bills-season/71-8f4209ec-2b84-4b07-9f68-a4b1e5433337 Many folks here have had the experience of wandering through the parking lots where people are tailgating on Gameday and being offered food and drink everywhere they stopped to chat, especially if you have a little something (whatever your Argentinian specialty beverage is?) to offer.

Not sure what you mean by this? Is there a better place you would recommend to our Argentine friend?

NFL OLman are pretty damned tough and fight to stay on the field until they can't walk/ can't lift an arm and go on IR. If you go on IR, the team backfills by elevating an OLman from the PS. Otherwise there were factually 7 games (out of 18) last season in which a single OLman was unavailable, and elevated a guy off the PS to have 9 available to pick from on game day. I looked it up after I posted, but Morris was also a ST stalwart last season. So unless Sternberger lights it up on ST during the PS, I think that gives Morris a further edge.

That's actually a tougher question to answer than one might think, because usually the initial 53 man roster reflects a couple of guys who are cut and resigned on a handshake so that we can carry a couple guys onto the roster then put them on IR (eligible to return). Then by the end of the season it flexes because of injuries It also flexes with drafting, and what position the ST guy plays. For example, when we drafted Fromm, we kept an extra QB. With Taiwan Jones playing RB, we kept an extra RB. When we drafted 2 DE in one year, we kept an extra DE (2021). When we drafted 2 LB, keep an extra LB (2022) Anyway, 10 OL are usually not that thing. We usually keep 9 - 5 starters, 2 reserve IOL (of whom one can play C), and 2 reserve T (of whom 1 can play as a 6th OL) But for the last 3 years it's looked something like this: Clever people who do addition might notice that it doesn't break down as 25 players on O and 25 players on D. Edit: this is an amalgam of the Wiki articles "Buffalo Bills 202x season" (which is inaccurate because of IR during the season) and articles detailing the 53 man roster at cutdown (which are inaccurate because of guys who are IRd, and cut guys then re-signed). So it's kind of a best guess.

Well, also at least as far as reports that are coming out, Morris and Gilliam are getting some time with the 1s and playing well. Also, I know some fans don't want to think about keeping players for ST, but both Morris and Gilliam have been core STers the last couple years. Like >75% of the snaps. In a year where the Bills finally moved on from core STers Taiwan Jones, Jake Kumerow, and Jaquan Johnson, I don't see them ditching Gilliam and Morris as well.

Not bad. I don't think Kyle Allen has done anything to claim a roster spot over Barkley. If anything, to the contrary. Hard to say, but the reports I've heard are that Morris is killing it over Sternberger. Morris getting shots with the 1's. I don't think Morris gets cut for Sternberger. Also they love Gilliam for his ST work as well as his positional flexibility from FB to TE to receiving TE. So unless Stermberger is putting some really surprising play at the end of preseason, it's Gilliam and Morris.

Stand down, big guy. No one said you needed an instruction manual, just explained why the thread is drawing the comments it is. You get to start the thread, others get to comment. Because it's unusual, some of the comments will be 'why is this here?' 'why are we discussing this?' etc

There's nothing wrong with it, it's just unusual to have preseason threads about teams we aren't playing.

The 50 survey participants were anonymous

Practice yesterday didn't show on the Bills calendar, but there was a practice (maybe closed to fans, media only?) Sal C says today is a day off

I have wondered that myself

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Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but when you call a guy "a parody of an NFL quarterback prospect" and use the words "zero" and "all", any evidence at all that the guy isn't a "parody" and any single piece of evidence supporting that he has a chance, make you wrong.

(Aaron Schatz of Football Outsiders) Some of us keep our receipts. This is what Schatz had to say about Allen after the draft: "A parody of an NFL quarterback prospect, Allen was abysmal in 2017 en route to not even making an all-Mountain West team. We don't want to say there's absolutely no chance he'll ever be good – he's got a deep ball, he's got some ability to make plays on the run and under pressure – but there is zero empirical evidence to support him becoming a reasonable NFL starting quarterback. And if you thought the excuses for his supporting cast were bad in Wyoming, wait till you see this Bills offense. ... Allen is the battleground that old scouts are going to die on, whether they're right about it or, as all evidence suggests, wrong about it." Plus of course the comment "I would rather have Tyrod Taylor quarterbacking my team over the next four years than Josh Allen." I gained some respect for Sal Capaccio after one twitter exchange where Schatz tried to white-wash his post-draft take as saying "I said he had a chance to be good" and Sal said "you called him a parody of an NFL quarterback prospect and said there was zero evidence to support him becoming a reasonable starting quarterback" As for the old scouts, I would say they're not dead yet, so don't sleep on them.

Maybe it was @Billl..someone named a couple Chiefs fan forums they said were pretty good and I went there and looked around, they seemed OK. Certainly a mile above chiefsplanet.

This is classic. Dawkins: "Yo, so like, do you know that you're a Superstar? Or do you just imagine that you're a regular guy, but you're really a Superstar?" Josh: "I'm a regular guy. I'm a real fun guy." Dawkins: "Josh, these people are screaming at the top of their ***** lungs. There's guys screaming, there's females screaming" Josh: "They want to hug me?" Dawkins: "They want to hug you" Somehow I feel that if Josh weren't mic'd up, a different word than "hug" might have been used 😂 Also, watching Dawkins next to Spencer Brown I can't help feeling that if Dawkins could hand off about 20-30 lbs to Brown that might be good, Please and Thank You.

Even the article you link points out that Allen’s throws, after he returned, were on-point and showed touch and targeting. It might not be perfect but it seemed to be working pretty damned good Well, Hey. Everyone needs a hobby.

Yeah, I forget what was recommended, but IIRC our resident Chiefs fans @Zerovoltz and @Billl told us even Chiefs fans regarded Chiefsplanet as unbelievably toxic and the Chiefs fans with neurons went somewhere else. Well, this one, Natch. Keep up the good work with the pruning sheers, Simon! Being an uttah bahstahd, I’ll drink to your good work The times I’ve visited, Russell Street Report (Ravens fan board) has had some really knowledgeable folks there.

Uh-oh. Has Schatz ever been right about the Super Bowl teams in his pre-season picks before? He sure was wrong about Allen, pre- and immediately post- draft.

Nonsense. Mark Sanchez did a masterful job of calling out Belicheck: “I would never say they cheat. They’re just relentless in the pursuit of a competitive advantage”. But Belicheck is also a keen student of the game, with a lot of respect for it. That’s why he asked to visit the Bills locker room and talk to Josh Allen after the Bills beat the Patriots in the 2021 playoffs where the Bills scored a TD on every offensive series. That was special, and historic, and Belicheck wanted to honor it. Allen is past having 6 anonymous opinions in a media poll of 50 dudes get in his head. Wanting to be seen as better than Burrows or Mahomes, now that may be in his head. But I think he also knows there’s only one way to get there. LOL. Like I pointed out credit to @pennstate10for calling out the actual results of the poll accurately, and giving the OP clickbait train context. But Trolls Gonna Troll.

I looked it up. It’s in the Atheltic, so you may need to be subscribed or get a trial Link Basically @pennstate10 called it - Allen is ranked #3 in Tier 1, behind Mahomes and Burrows and followed by Rodgers and Herbert. I’m sure a number of fans would find the rankings in Tier 2 and 3 of their favorite teams’ QBs The guy who wrote the article the OP linked just fixated on the 6 (out of 50) voters who put Allen in Tier 2, two of whom were DC’s. The other 4 would have been drawn from the “eight general managers, 10 head coaches, 15 coordinators, 10 executives, four quarterbacks coaches and three involved in coaching/analytics.”

There seem to be multiple reports that White seems to be looking much closer to his old form in training camp than he did in practices and games last year. But time will tell.

Glad to know you can predict their future already. Got any stock picks or lottery numbers?

One thing that's very important, is you can see Devin Singletary get over to the sideline fast with Dawkins right behind them. You can see a pissed off Nick Scott grabbing one of Allen's legs as he gets up, to see if he can get in a little extra strain or twist. Not uncommon, but as soon as Singletary gets over there he lets go and moves off then Dawkins is right there in case Scott comes back to respond to Allen telling him about it. Lil' Dirty is hanging back, but I can't blame him for that, he doesn't have "good size". I hope Cook and Harris are as dependable about following up to protect Allen the same way Singletary did. As long as Allen runs, there has to be someone hustling over there to protect him from extracurriculars.

Apparently it's his right wrist. That's an easy thing to brace up and send the guy back out to practice, but linemen critically depend on their wrists and hands so it can be seriously impairing (for a guy who doesn't need to be impaired). Let's hope it's just precautionary and heals quickly. Also, Dawkins calves 👀. I've seen 9 month baby bumps that looked smaller. Guy doesn't skip leg day.