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Troll-y trolls gotta troll

Fair enough. Maybe I’m just still salty that Q landing on Josh’s head after he was already down last week wasn’t a penalty.

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, OK? A lot of folks stay away from the Gameday Threads at all costs Also not to turn your stomach or provide TMI, but I spent about an hour soaking an improperly applied bandage and picking gauze out of *****, infected head wounds on my 91 year old mom’s head this afternoon, documenting with photos, then cleaning them with wound cleaner while she winced and cried and dressing them per plastic surgeon orders. Excuse me for not living up to your InstaPost expectations. LOL naughtier word filter took out pus s y as in filled with pus Um, you do know that’s actually NOT Hailee Steinfeld’s twitter account It’s a fan account

Huh, Zach Wilson has wheels and the Cowboys aren’t prepared for it

They are getting some help from the Zebras FWIW i don’t think the Bills had trouble moving the ball. I mean, even with 4 TO (2 on 8 play drives) we had what, 333 yards? 5 minute advantage in TOP? I get it, but I don’t like it when the difference between a PF and a clean play is how well the defender does plyometric pushups

That was “roughing”?

I think you answered your own question. The Jets legit have a tough D, but the Bills took a 13-3 lead into halftime. There was no reason the game shouldn’t have ended 20-13 or better if Josh Allen hadn’t gift-wrapped 3 turnovers for the Jets, and instead just taken the plays that were there. Oh my, DPI on Sauce. See zebras, it can be called

Yeah, that was a “hospital ball” to Lamb

Garrett Wilson is good

Josh's recent errors do not appear to have anything to do with a physical injury. They appear to be mental errors - making the wrong read or making a flat out stupid decision. Well, I think your opinion is partly wrong. Josh has shown elite abilities to progress through all his reads and dissect a defense. He advanced far beyond being the 1-2 read/pass or scramble guy he was when he came into the league in 2018. You could see progress during Josh's 2019 season but by 2020 he was gone. Josh couldn't "follow the script" and take available pass options at times, if he weren't able to dissect a defense and go through his reads. It does appear to be Truth that Josh isn't doing so on a regular basis right now, and if he doesn't stop making bad decisions and become more consistent about this, for whatever reason, he will peak as a good QB or possibly even decline - no QB can inflict 4 TO per game on his team and be good. He has to be brilliant to overcome that (to be fair, Josh has been brilliant at times and overcome), but "good" or 'mediocre" can not overcome. I would be delighted with that outcome Speaking for myself, I'm not that much of a weathervane. It took a pattern of multiple games laced with multiple bad decisions for me to generate this post, and it will take a pattern of multiple games from which multiple bad decisions are absent for me to post the above.

Yep Don't have trouble in the sense that the link still works, but also still doesn't embed for me, so folks here have to click on it and not just read it. Pro tip: if you can't click on it and have it open in your particular browser, right-click and choose "open link in new tab" You got it to embed! How did you get it to embed? Magician, explain thy works!

But for me anyway, it still doesn’t embed, though @Scott7975got it to

Draconator started his thread on Wednesday so it has pages and pages of game week discussion. But, I'm all for changing tradition if it gets us the win! Simms is just salty that his "boy blue" with all that talent, misused it as he did last week. But Simms doesn't get a pass on that account. Fan card revocation confirmed.

It is, but it's cleverly disguised. Just go to your op post, click on the dots, and choose "edit". The title will show up in a text edit window, as well as being able to edit the post.

I'll just put this here. It was the para I ended my OP post with. FWIW, my thoughts are that Josh's offensive contributions are still strong enough to allow a team to win with him provided they have a good run game and top defense. But if we're taking Josh out of the run game, and with aging safeties and a new MLB, I'm not sure we have enough of those last two to get there. So if we want to win, Josh, Joe Brady, and Ken Dorsey better figure it out - and fast. That seems kind of inarguable to me, actually.

Since you're the chosen pregame thread, might consider to edit the title?

PSA: it has been claimed to me that if one replaces the 'x' with 'twitter', it will embed This has not worked for me, but perhaps I am missing some magic ingredient

Even Salah and Douglas should be able to see the point of "Dance with the One That Brung Ya". If Wilson gets the Jets to the playoffs, it will be because he's rallied the team and it's become, in a real sense, 'his team'. They could give Colin Kaepernick a try (ducking)

Well, that’s nice and all that, but iF the Jets make the playoffs without Mr Rodgers being in their neighborhood - it will be because Zach Wilson has stepped up and Hackett has adapted the offense to work optimally with Dalvin Cook and Breece Hall and whatever Wilson can bring. So IF they make the playoffs with a different QB driving, it might not be the smartest move on the planet to try to plug Mr Rodgers back into their game 4 months post-Achilles-surgery

Have we had this upthread? Didn't find on quick look. It's a "must watch" https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1702125806049169415?s=20 "Still Here"

Whew.

Whisky Tango Foxtrot is up with Chandler Jones? https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2023/09/former-syracuse-football-star-calls-out-raiders-owner-after-being-ruled-out-vs-buffalo-bills.html Kind of sounding a bit "Incognito" (if you know what I mean)

You're welcome, anything for my fellow fans!

You know I love ya, Lieutenant, but the premiere Allen partisan package *is* why some people say it's "out of bounds" to criticize Allen on this board. I don't see it that way. If a QB who has shown that he's very well capable of better now has some mediocre metrics that are correlated to winning (like TD/INT) along with some that are outright putrid - like being 1 off the league lead for INT (after adjustments for things like maybe he's played more games than the other guys) - then I think fans should be able to talk about it and be concerned, hoping that Josh and the Bills organization have the intestinal fortitude to face it and fix it.

You know, I presented some data. People can (and have) quite legitimately question the relevance of the data, raise points about what is or isn't included in the data, or just say "I don't like your data" (data doesn't care, but their feelings are legit) But when it comes to the ad hominem of questioning how long the data preparer has been a Bills fan and has been around the last few decades - C'mon Man. I believe I'm on record about how old I am and how long I've been a Bills fan and what my oldest Bills fan memories are. But the data are the data, regardless. PS we should never have traded Lamonica. I hope so, and I hope Josh and the Bills leave no stone unturned to get him there. Go Bills.