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I can see the steam rising from Jimbo Cook and his agent's ears.....wonder if they and Beane are working on one? Seriously, did not expect to see Beane prioritizing extensions! Shows what I know! Yes, it's "up to" $60M. The devil is always in the details.....

I understood the Carr thing. I don't mean it made sense, but I understood it. Josh McDaniels did a similar thing in Denver: he shipped Jay Cutler out of town in favor of Kyle Orton (I don't mean the players are the same, but it's the same theme: Mr Big Stuff doesn't want to adapt to the players he has, he wants his own guys.) But McVay traded for Stafford and won a Superbowl with him. So....

Kirk Cousins IMO is a big step down from Stafford.

Kelly Stafford is "a lot" but let's be real... Stafford is going to be 37 next year, and the ROI the Rams have gotten from him since the Superbowl have been "meh". It's not that he's played badly - not at all - but the year they won the Superbowl, he passed for 41 TDs and 287 ypg. Doesn't look as though he's gonna return to that performance. If Stafford were still lighting it up, his wife could be yattering on Social Media all she wants I played a bit with Spotrac and I think the Rams only save about $4M if they trade Stafford.

Exactly this. He can flex as he pleases about wanting to be the 2nd highest paid RB in the league. Beane will put cold hard football facts on the table, and then we'll see.

It's an interesting thought. On the one hand, Cook and his agent may know Beane puts extensions 4th in priority, so they're throwing down "this is what we expect as a portion, better leave that room under the cap for us when you start cooking up extensions" On the other hand, you're right - this does give Beane the chance to maybe put a higher priority on Ty Johnson, maybe make different FA and draft moves You just might be right that if he'd waited until after the draft, Beane might be thinking "k, got RB locked down" and wind up with fewer options

I don't think the Bills much care for it either. They've previously made clear they don't want to negotiate contracts in public. Beane would extend Cook for the same reason he's extended other players with a year remaining on their contracts: -players really don't like to play on a 1 year contract because nothing is guaranteed if they get hurt, so the team has a bit more leverage -the team can talk up getting new money up front/guarantees while the player has the choice "play for us on a 1 year, or take a new contract that might be less than the open market would give you IF you don't get hurt and IF you have another great year Beane will definitely prioritize negotiating with any of the team's FA he wants to re-up, then negotiating with FA, then the draft, before he tries to extend guys who are currently under contract. As far as how he prioritizes extensions, arguably Cook is the one with the most notable stats across the league. Of the RBs who are top-20 for attempts, he is 16th for yards (reflecting his lower number of attempts, but 5th for Y/A and tied for 1st in TDs. I personally feel that Shakir is the least replaceable player simply because of how reliable his hands are and how little else the Bills have at WR, but as a receiver his stats aren't that remarkable. I'm not sure, but I think if the Bills want the best pass-protecting RB or the best route-running, receiving RB, Cook is neither - so it's bench time.

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What do you feel this means, practically speaking? Bills don't need to franchise tag Cook at this point. He just finished his 3rd year. He's under contract for 2025.

I don't think Cook is bad for asking for it. But I think he's asking for more than the market. It causes problems when you pay one player well over market. You get other players who aren't FA looking over at him going "OK, what about me?" What was it the Bills coaches used to tell guys "watch who gets paid"? No one would object to Cook getting a market-value extension early, or even a high market value extension. Way over market value? Eh. As @BarleyNY pointed out, $15M a year would make him the 2nd highest paid RB. It's a point worth noting that the highest paid RB, Christian McCaffrey, is a total game changer and elite weapon in the run and in the pass game - and that his team has not received the desired ROI, as he played in only 4 games last season.

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You know what I do when I give zero ****s about something? I run right over to my keyboard, log into a board on that topic, and make a post telling everyone on that board how I could care less! Nothing is more persuasive that I truly give zero ****s than putting in that effort! ^======sarcasm, in case anyone's detector is broken ======^

WTF? Let's be clear here. There is no "we". You're a Chiefs fan visiting here. No, we did not at all see Shakir's ceiling in 2023. We saw him being used in a somewhat different way in the first part of 2023 which changed after Brady took over. In 2024 he had more 1D, more TD, and more Y/G (while having less Y/R because of the Bills offensive changes under Brady). Shakir adapted to the changes and got 72% of his yards after catch in 2024.

It's a guess, but let's just say there might be a reason why Richie Incognito wanted a funeral home to cut off his deceased father's head in 2018? Who knows, but a lot of bullies learn to bully at home....they get verbally and sometimes physically abused by parents in the guise of "tough love" and "toughening them up", and they take those behavior patterns with them to school and to sports and activities. And sure, drug use (including steroids) and mental problems played their role. As far as good on the field, actually.... Incognito was a mixed bag. Yes, he could be physical and dominating and athletic, all you want in an OL. But he had a reputation for stupid penalties...I think his final year in St Louis he had 3 personal foul or UR penalties....IN ONE GAME! leading to the head coach screaming on the sideline "WHAT THE ***** IS WRONG WITH THAT *****?"

Reid has 5 kids (4 living). His 2 middle kids, daughters Crosby and Drew, seem to live out of the limelight. How do you know they are train wrecks? His youngest, son Spencer, is now a S&C coach for the Chiefs but he seems a bit legit having worked for 4 college programs before being hired. Do you know any evil of him? Garrett was a train wreck and Britt may still be a train wreck unless permanently damaging a young girl changed him

I had the same question. @Buffalo716 any tea?

I understand your point that players take time to adjust to the NFL and to develop, and that fans get impatient with the need for development. But it seems to me there's a valid counter-point that other teams get immediate strong contributions, especially from their 1st round and Day 2 picks - and that one difference between the Championship teams and the Bills, may be the lack of such immediate contributions.

I don't care if it's limited to Richie Incognito. If it happens, it's wrong. "Whataboutism" is no defense. (And by the way, "testimony" is a specific word with connotations of a formal, even a sworn, statement - which appearing on Sal's podcast is not) Does it really need to be said? If Bills DB coach John Butler was "literally destroying" his assistant, not with criticism of his OJP or banter but with racial or sexual slurs, then John Butler is a jerk and maybe there's a reason he and the Bills "mutually decided to part ways" and why he was out of the NFL last year.

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OK, so we agree Cook is not, in fact, the best weapon on offense. He's an excellent weapon, and we agree that I want Buffalo to keep all its offensive weapons, and keep them happy if we can. That definitely means negotiating with Cook and trying to get him an extension while he's still under contract. It doesn't mean pay him $15M The Bills tried to buy a Superbowl when they signed Von Miller. We know how that story ended - not well for the Bills.

Don't forget the stuff about "running train" on Martin's sister.

Actually, Martin got the investigation started by leaving the team. Martin sat down at the OL table for lunch, and the entire OL got up and left the table, leaving him alone. Martin responded by throwing down his tray and leaving the building and staying away. Since Martin was a high 2nd round pick of whom much was expected, that, not unnaturally, had Dolphins brass, Martin's large and successful family, and everyone else wondering "just what's up with that?" And we were off.

Ever hear the phrase "Go along to Get Along"? There's a hierarchy in every workplace. There's also a workplace culture. Take a culture where toxic, verbally and sometimes physically abusive behavior is openly tolerated or even encouraged by management (which, the Wells report concluded, was the case with the Dolphins). Now take someone like an assistant trainer who is near the bottom of the hierarchy, trying to make a living and easily replaced. Of course they're going to either stone-face or laugh off treatment by the Big Shots, the star players. Doesn't mean they don't experience it as humiliating and inappropriate Does mean that if they "read the room" and see management as condoning or even encouraging that kind of behavior, they're not gonna bother reporting it.

One little caveat: I don't agree that being dangerous, per se, means you can not be good. But that really depends upon one's definition of dangerous. I think you are using "dangerous" as a synonym for "violent and unpredictable", and I would agree that "violent and unpredictable" is implausible to coexist with Good. The thing is, the Wells report made clear that this kind of language (and perhaps intimidating physical behavior) was proven to be used against a lowly and physically smaller and weaker assistant trainer (who was working for peanuts relative to the players) and against an unnamed, but possibly way lower on the totem pole offensive lineman (possibly a practice squad guy) who may have an opinion on that. That's CLEARLY bullying behavior. And that's just the behavior the Wells report was able to document. And it wasn't new. Incognito had a history of this kind of stuff stretching back into college at least: Again, Wood can stick up for his poor, wronged "brother" with his "ruined" reputation if he wants to, but the fact is that Incognito had a pattern of bullying behavior and out-of-control behavior that stretched way back prior to the Dolphins, and that was protected by the "culture (that) you don't run and cry to the coaches". Mango is 100% spot on that Incognito ruined Incognito's reputation, and that he stinks as a human being. It's a fact that Incognito had career earnings of $15M prior to being suspended by the Dolphins.  He finished his career with $32M of career earnings - so he MORE THAN DOUBLED his career earnings after having his "reputation ruined". Boo Hoo. Some ruin.