Beck Water

Things can change. But if I recall correctly, NFL insiders have repeatedly commented that the one team they get the least info about their planned moves is the Bills. So if there are rumors and talk running around the league, I'm less inclined to believe it's a likely move.

*opens Postgame thread to see how fellow fans are celebrating victory*

“Hey Fitz Show Me Your Titz” LOL

If it's to the point where we've got Josh Norman active ahead of our last year's #1 pick, he's either getting traded OR he's really bad.

I could be mistaken, as I can't recall seeing a "tush push" from above, but I don't think that's a "tush push" That seems more like a conventional QB sneak, badly executed. And no, contrary to what one of the commenters on the first link said, the Vikes player was not dirty.

So the two games in a row you stated is vs. the Pats, and then McDermott not confirming the start this week?

FIFY, from what I saw. Just awful.

Negative, he wants it to focus on his *bleeep*

Ah, OK - but one needs to somehow take turnovers for which he's responsible and yards lost to sacks into account somehow.

Well that worked out!

? Williams was replaced by Dodson when stepped in for injury Consensus seemed to be he played pretty well against the Giants

Someone commented on this elsewhere - that it seemed as though the plays were getting in late and on one play, Josh was gesturing as though he hadn't gotten the play right before the cutoff.

You're a Bad Man. A Bad, Bad Man. I like that in a man. You need an option for "Not only No, but Hell No."

Hyde of course, and then at the end of the season Damar Hamlin who had been our #2 safety all season. Missing Daquan Jones from the Bengals game hurt. This year there's no question we're on fumes. Last season I thought Settle was maybe playing hampered with a calf injury. This season he just looks "lost in space"

Yes - plus Ed Oliver was playing, but in a shoulder brace

So starting out missing Tre, and ending up missing Von?

He's got a sprained shoulder. A sprain in his non-throwing shoulder caused his completion % to dip for 4 games in 2020. There's every reason to think it's impacting him and will for the next 3-4 weeks. In 2020, Daboll had a game or two where he strongly limited passing attempts, and we just ran ran ran. Maybe we need that, instead of 41 pass attempts to 24 rushes.

Wellllll.......I am the one who suggested that Singletary and McKenzie should be equipped with the sort of tall orange fiberglass poles you find affixed to Syracuse fire hydrants in winter. Yes, sometimes Josh does throw to tightly covered players he trusts, while ignoring open ones he trusts less. I wouldn't want to say that Josh "doesn't see" open receivers, but I think it's pretty inarguable that Josh will pass up open receivers who are short of the sticks in favor of taking a deep shot, sometimes to a pretty well covered receiver downfield. Sometimes, because that tendency is on film, to a well covered receiver with a DB in position to jump the route and pick him. He's aggressive, and he has that "arm arrogance". Sometimes it pays off, and sometimes it doesn't. It's also a fact that Josh will tend to respond to pressure by extending the play with his legs, instead of getting the ball out quickly to an underneath option with so much green in front of him they could plant a christmas tree farm. It's a blessing and a curse. Yes, Josh was 7th in the league in passing yards and Y/A last season, which is top. Is that good enough? Mahomes was #1. Josh was also #3 in INT last season. Is that good enough? Maybe if we want to win a championship, especially with a depleted defense, we need Josh to "level up". Which he has inarguably demonstrated HE CAN DO. I'm having trouble finding that "top 3 in production" stat for last year and this - can you help me?

Then maybe Josh Allen needs to stop trying to be "low positive" and start trying to be whatever he was in 2020, 2021 etc.

How was their defense worse than decimated last season? You're right of course. I think a lot of us look at the offense though, because if the offense were playing better (fewer dumb-ass turnovers, someone besides Diggs stepping up) we would also be 6-1

Except that Josh is NOT "what he is". He HAS been able to be patient, take what the defense gives him, see the open WR and TE and RB. And not too long ago. So what has changed?

Josh was on the Pat McAfee show. Pat asked him "big film watcher?" Josh said "yeah" Then he said "I try not to overwatch film" and explained that teams tend to play the Bills differently than what they put on film, so he finds it better to react to what he sees during the game. https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/249008-nattering-nabobs-of-negativism/page/8/#comment-8520432 I think I had a post where I actually transcribed what Josh said but it is a bear for me to find stuff by searching here. Frankly, whatever Josh is doing in the way of prep, I think he needs a "reality check" and it needs to change. @HoofHearted did a good job breaking down the first half passing plays last week and showing that there were open guys and guys who should have been the first read, that Josh wasn't taking. In his OBD segment last Friday, Greg Cosell similarly pointed out a couple of plays where he thought the read should have been different and there was a play for the taking (same observations that Hoof had made here BTW) I don't always agree with Joe Marino when I've listened to him, but I see the same thing again vs Pats - Josh had options he's not taking, some of which are, in fact, the "correct" option in a given situation (vs a Blitz, for example). In the 2021 season WC game against the Patriots, Bill Belicheck wagered that Josh would be unable to make the correct decision time after time, that he would get impatient and try to force balls in vs. taking the short, safe throw. Josh responded with a "Game of Games" where he did everything right, and as a result, the Bills scored a TD on every offensive drive. That Josh isn't playing QB for the Bills right now. And for the Bills to have a chance, someone needs to hunt that guy down and find him and bring him back. I don't know if it's a difference in QB coaching or who is talking to Josh between series or game prep or what.

Good questions 1) We expect more from the offense, because Allen, Diggs, Cook, Kincaid etc. It seemed Beane had finally addressed the iOL in the draft and FA. So it's very concerning that they should be totally impotent for the first half of 3 successive games 2) the defense came into the year with questionmarks for most of us, between starting an inexperienced MLB, aging secondary, and changing DC. So I think we came into the year believing that for the Bills to succeed this season, they offense had to bring its "A" game 3) the defense has now been ravaged by injuries at all 3 levels - Tre White, Matt Milano, both out for the season; Daquan Jones, out for an indefinite period of time; now Ed Oliver out. 4) complimentary football - when one unit is hampered, the other unit has to "step it up" in order to keep winning. that's not happening 5) a lot of people have questions (if not definite conclusions) about how good and how competent as an OC Dorsey really is

They had an interception, a long drive where we came away with a kiss from Ken's sister (FG), and a 3-and-out ----- while the opponent had a FG, a TD, and a 3 and out. I'd call that starting pretty slow, myself. I don't know what people expect McDermott to say to the press, though. Do they expect him to say "look, Josh Allen has been starting games with his head up his ass, the OL starts out playing like they're allergic to physical contact, and our receivers should be called "fumblefingers 2, fumblefingers 3, Kincaid, and Diggs"? McDermott has ideas what's wrong, he's just not going to air them in the press.

They used 4, but it was effectively 3 because Settle couldn't get anything done. This isn't news, with DaQuan Jones out in the Bengals playoff game Settle played like half the snaps and it was Fugly. 60% against NWE with DaQuan AND Ed Oliver (who they plugged in at 1T vs Giants just to have someone who can play there) out. And it was Fuglier. I actually had good hopes for Settle when we signed him and hoped he was hampered by his calf injury last season but ick, apparently not. Eh. First off Early Season (1st 5 games) we had Milano. When Williams came in for him, he looked bad. Williams looked ok against the Giants. If there's one thing Bill Belicheck does know how to do, it's to scheme up to fool rookies and young players and take advantage of them, Dorian Williams included. They also run a quick-release passing game with a good bit of YAC for the most part, not sure about Sunday. More than half of passing yards YAC.