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Thanks for sharing that. I found this response more pungent. Who is the black man in the red tie? For a guy whose team just got whalloped 47-17 in a game where their defense got taken for 47 points by an offense that scored a TD on every drive and they lost 47-17 (7 of which were 4th Q after Bills starters left the game), he's mighty Chirpy about how the Bills are not a good team.

To be fair, are Jason Kirk and Sam Monson properly considered "members of the media" or "sports journalists"? Sam Monson's gig is PFF, which isn't media. Isn't Jason Kirk a podcaster and newsletter editor? He's parlayed his way onto the staff list of the Athletic, but it's as a "newsletter editor" not a journalist. "Jason Kirk is the senior newsletters editor for The Athletic, co-host of the Shutdown Fullcast and Vacation Bible School Podcast and author of the well-reviewed novel "Hell Is a World Without You."

On a certificated airplane like a Bonanza, I would say the hardest part is getting the FAA to approve the 337s and/or supplemental type certificate for the major modification to the equipment the plane was certificated with, but this is a digression to the accident so I'm not gonna debate what are the most common ways to modify an older aircraft and why with ya. We agree that there's reason to consider information that flys around immediately after a GA accident as not necessarily correct.

No, they called a hold on Edwards which, to be honest, I think it was was - the DLman tried to reach for Josh and couldn't move sideways to get him, which, I think is not going to happen if the OL doesn't have a firm hold. But part of what drew the ref's eye was defenders toppling over behind him, which is Josh able to move in ways which sends defenders running into each other pursuing a QB body that is no longer there. OLmen hold like that on almost every play and it's seldom called except when it is.

It's inexplicable to me that is called a hold. It's like the officials are "DLman wound up on the ground, must have been holding"

Correct. The pilot reporting "mechanical issues" and declaring an emergency are two things that can be known pretty rapidly after an accident. Ceilings were good at KBUF. Lowest on METAR 3,700 and usually higher with 10 miles vis . But where he crashed was about 10-11 miles south of that airport. The FAA makes plane owners jump through hoops to make major changes to the instrument panel of an older plane such as replacing the vacuum, pitot static or static actuated instruments with a glass panel (EFIS) especially if you don't want to be limited to day VFR. Been there, explored that. So what most certificated aircraft owners do is rearrange the panel to fit the EFIS but keep the instruments the plane was originally certificated with. And if you do want to go all glass, 2 EFIS and a backup power source are typical. Anyway, outside of the fact that the pilot is said to have declared an emergency due to "mechanical issues" we know nothing about what happened at this point and it's pretty well fruitless to speculate. Small planes do have redundancy built into their instrumentation; most small plane pilots who are flying cross country do carry a backup radio and a GPS, though those would be a lower priority to set up in the face of a mechanical emergency. They're not that complicated, really; the typical thing is "we're going to land over there, and go get coffee; the plane may not survive" which is why initially I was willing to make a joke. It's very sad that he died in the crash.

I think "somewhere in between".

What is that "same source"? Sorry, I have a kind of "gallows sense of humor", comes from being a former EMT and a pilot

The news report I saw was that the plane crashed in a wooded area behind houses Cazenovia Creek appears to run behind there so checks out Those Patriot Fans, man, they'll stop at nothing

I was wondering who is Williams, as in " finger tip catches to Knox and Williams" The only Williams on the team right now being Dorian, far as I know - and if he's taking the field as a receiver we're in Big Trouble There was definitely a one-hand pass to Knox that was a brilliant catch by him

You're correct prior to the trade deadline, but after the trade deadline all players (veteran or not) must go through waivers Yes, played there 3 years - 2020 to 2024 He was a Beast

The best case scenario is we get a stop. We had gotten 2 stops plus 3 limits to a FG (1 missed), which is why we had a chance at the end, anyway We needed another stop I do see your point that if we weren't getting a stop, having the Chiefs score relatively quickly was better for the Bills than a methodical grind down the field, but it's not the "best case scenario for us."

Right, we both agree it's unlikely LA was offered a 2025 5th or 6th and turned it down to swap 2026 and 2027 7ths. But I can see them taking 3 cents instead of 4 cents to help build goodwill with players and agents by sending Tre White to a contender.

Pie? Did someone say pie?

I think the problem with that philosophy is, by the time you realize that you better bring out your cards or you'll lose, it can be too late. I think that's how the Bills started out the game against the Rams - "we don't need all our cards against this 6-6 team, we'll just save them for next week against the 12-1 Lions". But they miscalculated: the Rams were playing for their playoff lives, knowing their best chance at the playoffs is to win the division and believing that Seattle is vulnerable. And just like that, the Rams are now leading the division, with very winnable games against the Jets and 'Zona then their final fate-control game against Seattle. I think if you're keeping cards in your pocket, the players know it and it's hard to get them to buy into the "bring everything, bring peak intensity" mindset.

It doesn't matter as much if we let their offense march up the field and down the field every drive.

I mean, I dunno. The trade was for a 2026 7th round, (which is next to nothing), and they got a 2027 7th round back, (which, I think can be justly argued that you are correct, they got nothing.) It was clear Tre was probably still rehabbing that Achilles, and it's not impossible he might have something left after rehab completes. I think it's possible that a team with a bad secondary that's trying to rebuild might have offered a 2026 7th without requiring a 2027th 7th back, or even a 2025 7th. F aced with getting next to nothing vs. getting nothing, the Rams decided to take the offer that was best for the player.

LOL they don't care what you look like. The flow chart is simple: 1) Is this guy holding the football? Y -> Nail Him N -> Don't care 2) Is this guy in the way between me and the guy who is holding the football? Y -> Nail him N-> Don't care 3) Is this guy good looking? -> See 1) and 2) above Eric Wood once said "You can do things on a football field that are severely illegal anywhere else"

I'm not sure what you mean by "protected zone", but assuming you mean your bro was wearing a cup, it's notorious that in the NFL, players don't wear cups anymore. I don't know why, but apparently if you show up in an NFL locker room with a cup, you face immense ridicule. Have friend whose son was elite rugby player in HS and club player in college and afterwards. Plays wing. He also played WR on a championship winning football team in HS. Can confirm.

I share your questions. Brett Favre was a noted trash-talker. One of his OL was being interviewed and said he was always telling Brett "Brett, I gotta block this guy, Don't Piss Him Off" On the other hand, I remember a mic'd up episode with Jordan Poyer where he was constantly yattering at the receiver he was covering "I'm here. I'm right here. I'm right on your ass, 18." I'm honestly not sure what World Class Trash Talking contributes to the team. I know on an individual basis guys do it to crank themselves up.

One of the most interesting parts about 10 minutes in. I think there's a feeling the Bills have a state-of-the-art, science driven training program. Tre' is talking about Von Miller coming in from the Rams and saying that the Bills are "the complete opposite of this" (as far as training load, is my understanding). He also talks about how the coaches and staff stress positivity and even on the sideline when they were getting spanked by 'Zona they're still positive and composed. Talks about how McVay is coaching the guys but loving them, always in a positive light. And how they manage the load in training and practice to keep guys healthy in December (year to year though, at a glance I don't see the Rams as particularly healthier or less healthy than any other team) He says some good things to say about the Bills and how they're solid and bring in guys and everybody bought in, "but on the sideline, if we getting spanked, you gonna hear about it". As opposed to the Rams "they coach you hard but love you at the same time". Tre clearly felt there were elements of the Rams coaching that were superior, as far as getting the best out of players in a high stakes situation. Anyway that struck me. There's no question. There is an element of luck to key injuries. Tre and Von Miller were both key defensive injuries. Some minor tid-bits: "the only one who could move in the snow was Shady McCoy" (true - wish they could bring him in as a consultant)

There are players who are noted for this. Christian Wilkins is one. The idea is if they can get you to lose your focus, their teammate gets the ball. If they can't, they get you mad enough at them you you'll come out of the pile swinging and they get 15 yds. But you know, I thought Detroit left early and should have had a penalty. Am I the only one? Be shocked then. In his 2005 book "Romo My Life on the Edge" Bill Romanowski recounted how he once broke another player's finger while in a scrum pile.

I like the way you think. I'd love the Chiefs to be "exposed" without Mahomes. I don't think it's realistic. Any team is going to fear sitting their QB, and the better the QB, the bigger the fear. Of course, the Chiefs fear sitting Mahomes, why wouldn't they fear sitting their top QB? But the league - the people who dissect film for a living - understand that the Chiefs are less "The Patrick Mahomes Show" this season (and last) than they were earlier in his career, and I wouldn't expect them to fold like a cheap lawn chair if Mahomes can't go. Points: -Andy Reid is one of the best coaches in the business. He got the best play of his career out of Alex Smith. He got good QB play from Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick. If anyone can tool a scheme to succeed with a given QB, even Carson Wentz, Reid is that guy. -Right now, the Chiefs have the #5 D on points and yards given up. Their D has been keeping them in games and winning close games for them. -Their offense is only OK. It's like 12th in the league for points and 14th for yards. They're running on 5.8 NY/A passing, which is 21st in the league, or something like that. They're "meh" for completion percentage and pass yards per game. What they are, is balanced, passing and rushing making about the same contribution. There's definitely more to the Chiefs than Paddy Mahomes. What they will lose if Mahomes sits, is that extra layer of belief in their own invincibility and ability to come from behind - the confidence that if things look grim, Mahomes the Grim Reaper will cut the opponent down to size and pull off the improbable victory. I think This Is True.

So again not Baldy, but if the X's and O's they haunt you, here's Eric Wood breaking down X's and O's on some of the Bills TDs:

According to Brave, you're pretty much right. -Phins need to win out -They need the Chargers to lose twice -They need the Colts to lose once.