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Indeed. Although, I do understand the reaction to the "friends and family so I'm stayin' " notion. The financials of trading Adams for the Raiders are something like $31.4 dead cap this season - $23.55 of it new. I think $23.55 is what they'd take on in dead cap to trade him before the 2024 season as well, but that would be off-set by escaping his $16.89M salary. Then we get to look at Josh McDaniel. He's in his 3rd year in Las Vegas, rocked a 9-14 record in previous years, and is 3-3 right now. He's been given everything he wants, including releasing Derek Carr/assuming a $5.6M dead cap hit just a year after he signed a 3 yr extension, then signing Jimmy "Italian Word for Made of Glass" Garrappolo to $34M guaranteed, 3 yr $72.5M. Sooner or later, one would think that "to whom much is given, much is expected" would apply.

Look, this is revisionist history x 1000. In the 2019 off-season, Beane's first priority was to improve the OL, which could neither run block nor pass protect in 2018. No OL, no Josh. Hence the firing of Juan Castillo, the hiring of Bobby Johnson, letting him bring in "his guy" in Feliciano, signing Mitch Morse in FA, doubling down at various positions like C and RT in the journeyman FA market, and yes, drafting Ford. Ford was graded as a year-1 starter by Lance Zierlein (grades not infalliable but his scouting evaluations usually have me nodding when I go back and read them after a player has been in the league a while). Ford was generally regarded as high ceiling, low floor guy - somewhat raw at tackle, but with a lot of physical traits and athleticism to develop into a solid starting OLman. (And the fact that he's still in the NFL on a team which hopes to contend says Beane and his men aren't alone in that scouting e v a l). I'm afraid if you want us to believe that you thought Ford was "a disappointment from the moment they called his name", you're going to have to show your receipts. Ford showed flashes at RT his rookie season, starting 15 games (but platooning with Ty Nseckhe). He also suffered a lot of injuries, some of which he probably tried too hard to play through (I can remember a game vs Tenn where he was on injury report with a knee injury, but he couldn't seem to lift his R arm into blocking position). It happens that a guy who shows a lot of athleticism and physical promise and flashes as a rookie, fizzles because injuries derail him. (That may become true of Spence Brown, by the way.) Beane's second 2019 off-season priority was to bring in experienced, solid WR who were already solid route runners and who would help Josh Allen develop and expand his passing vocabulary as "player coaches". And it paid off handsomely with Cole Beasley, who bonded with Allen then started arguing with Allen in training camp about throwing with anticipation and how to read the D. Allen wouldn't be the QB he is today without Beasley and to a lesser extent, John Brown. Has Beane neglected the WR position (in fact, the offense) overall? I would say "yes". But it doesn't come down to one year or one round. And part of it comes down to misses, or to players who have all the athletic potential in the world but for some reason, take a while to get their head in the right place and live up to it (Zay Jones, I'm talking about you). And Yes, the guys who drafted AJ Brown and Metcalf have their misses, too - how many Lombardis does Jon Robinson have again? Oh that's right - he's 47 and home sitting on the couch. So no, you can't say "whooo, if Beane had drafted AJ Brown or Deebo Samuel in the 2nd we woulda won at least one Lombardi by now", any more than the 8th grade girls CYC Bball team can say "we would have won the championship if I sunk that 3 pointer at the half". (DK Metcalf was drafted before we picked, so that's Top Drawer Revisionism there). You change one thing, and everything else in the game changes.

Mike Tomlin for sure. He's been coach at Pittsburgh since 2007. Record is 3-8

"well never mind that part's not PC...." Good for Her! One year my daughter drew a Patriots fan in the Christmas gift exchange, and she wanted to order him a Patriots hat. Needless to say, this involved my credit card since it was an online purchase and somewhat last minute. But I made her wrap it out on the porch and drop it into a containment bag before placing it in the trunk. Apparently the recipient enjoyed it so there's that, but we live in St Louis so neither Bills gear nor Pats gear make any kind of a statement.

I’d just like to make the point, that both Davis and especially Diggs, could have their targets reduced a bit without reducing their offensive contributions (catches and yards) diminished at all - the reason being that at times Allen is making extremely low percentage throws or even throwing balls away in their direction, when he should be getting the throw out in rhythm and on time to Cook or Kincaid. Knox, needs to clean up whatever has caused his catch % to drop and his drop % to climb towards his rookie and 2nd year.

I’m pretty sure I remember a very very similar non-catch by Knox. Against the Patriots I believe.

It wasn’t perfect, but it was certainly catchable and there was not a defender nearby to stop it

yes they were 52 and 53 yarders There are some kickers who are much better in that range Bass was 3 of 3 at 50+ prior to Sunday nite 2 of 3 at 50+ last year

And that’s the game.

Oh. My. God. What was that? That was Knoxian

Let’s start by seeing if we can establish some grounds for agreement: I do not think we currently have the same level of offensive talent currently that we had in 2021. We did not do an adequate job of replacing Sanders and Beasley, who were both “on the downhill slide” but better in their respective roles in 2021 than Davis and McKenzie in 2022. We have the potential for a better run game/pass catching RB and a better pass catching TE, but that potential has not yet been realized, That said: do you truly believe that offensive talent was the issue in the Bills missing out on the AFCCG by 13 seconds in 2021? If you do, can you outline your arguements for that belief?

I’ve been favorably impressed by his running prowess tonight I’m thinking we might be correct now though. Almost 4 minutes left and Jags have the ball

I thought so but evidently I thought wrong

Why? His knee was down Correct One (butt) cheek also = two feet

Seriously? He’s gonna get hit regardless so might as well make the catch

I’m starting to get that vibe from them. Their defense looks legit. Still, it is the Saints here.

What the hell was that, Carr? OK, I guess he expected a different route to be run So am I getting this right, the Saints OC has been the Saints OC for 15 years? May be time for a change

With a self-respecting competitive football team, it shouldn’t be But I don’t think we can count on the Saints to help us out with this one. WTF was that playcalling by the Saints on 3rd and 4th down?

I think he looks like a horse. A very talented well-bred horse who is good at football, of course Ewwww.

May I have a fresh tomato on it with pepper and salt?

Huh, I thought their defense is looking pretty solid There is the fumble, and the punt muff miscue of course

Oh, man! Shaheed almost hauled that in!

It’s the county around Jacksonville

Ouch, slammed by your own guy and injured. Friendly fire hurts!

I know, right? Now, he could have meant it a little differently. Like supposing we'd scraped through the Jags game, then the Giants game....I could see saying "we're not winning the right way". As far as I can tell from clips and box score, nothing stood out as unusual or wrong with those 2 Vegas wins. In that context, it does come across as "wahhhh, Meyers and Mayer got more targets than me!"