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I think you skipped a step.

Araiza was cut by the team. NFL players are "employed at will", the team can cut them at any time (and bear contractual consequences) Araiza was not disciplined or suspended by the team or the NFL.

Crass to follow myself I know, but I'd like to point out that with the CBA, the NFLPA was trying to protect players against being placed in "limbo" by a team that has soured on them but for one or another reason doesn't want to cut them. The player under contract has the right to access the team facility, train there, receive medical treatment. eat team food. The team can cut them so they're not under contract. The team can make them inactive on game day. But contractually, I believe the team must "fish or cut bait", either let the player access the facility or cut them. Or, if there is good cause, suspend them - but there has to be cause.

Don't think so I actually don't believe they can. People keep saying all sorts of things the Bills can do, but I'd be delighted to have a precedent or a reference to some portion of the CBA that allows this. The team can grant a player who requests it time off for "personal reasons" to deal with a family member's health or death. The thing is, the player has to request it. This has been dealt with and explained multiple times upthread. If you've read that and you're still unsure, you can try Quora: https://www.quora.com/Can-you-get-bail-for-a-crime-that-you-havent-been-formally-charged-with-yet Or as I suggested to Muppy upthread, you could google something like "can I be arrested and not charged with a crime? This seems to be a fairly clear explanation https://www.conyersnix.com/faq/difference-between-an-arrest-charge-and-conviction/ Trying to TL;DR: Arrest: Police detain you on suspicion of committing a criminal act. May or may not be proceeded by prosecutor filing charges; may not involve prosecutor at all Charges: Filed by prosecutor. Arrest may or may not follow; could just issue summons to appear in court to answer to charges In Von's case, he was arrested by police upon presenting probable cause to judge. Prosecutor has not filed charges (yet). If you are arrested, you have the right to "pray for bail" (which is not a religious move, but an application to the judge) whether or not you've been charged. This is an important protection Americans have against the habit in some countries of arresting and incarcerating people for indefinite periods of time without charges.

I'd like to think I know more than the average Joe Fan about contracts and cap issues and parts of the CBA. I have no idea if there is an avenue for a team "suspending" a player (with or without pay) or placing him on "administrative leave" and locking him out of the building. I actually think there isn't. -They can make him inactive. -They can cut him (and immediately eat $32M extra dead cap this season) -IF he has broken a team rule or they can argue he has been guilty of "conduct detrimental to the team" or "conduct detrimental to the league", maybe they suspend him - but the player can appeal, and then we loop back to the original point, which is - an investigation has not completed, Von Miller has not been charged, and there is no clearcut conclusion here. Do I personally believe that it's "more likely than not" that Von Miller physically and verbally assaulted his pregnant girlfriend and that what he did is a "Red Flag Warning" for DV murder? Yes, that's what I personally believe. But I don't think someone should be found to have committed "conduct detrimental" based upon my personal belief, either.

I'd like to throw out a thought. -What Von Miller is alleged to have done is despicable, and if it's beyond a reasonable doubt he did it, he should not be in the building -At this point, it's not beyond a reasonable doubt. It's not even clear that the evidence is enough to charge him with a crime -If he's charged with a crime, for sure, he should not be on the field until the investigation completes. The NFL has a procedure for this, "Commissioner's Exempt List" -If he's not, just maybe...the NFL's procedure of waiting to take action until an investigation takes place...is the 'benefit of doubt' standard we would all like to have applied to us? Crazy Talk, I know. I'm not sure the "team can suspend him". On what basis at this point? They can make him inactive, and let him sit on the sideline in civvies, I guess.

Ugly drop by Chase. OK, redemption

How TF did he catch that If that was Josh Allen throwing they’d call it a dangerous “interceptable ball” powered by “arm arrogance”

Now why isn’t that DPI there? He was playing through the guy’s back like the “uncalled DPI” last night on MVS

Who knew Zay Jones could become an actual productive NFL WR? I didn’t have that on my NFL bingo card either

It should be taunting IMO

Said it upthread. Jags came in with the notion that they only needed to defend against the pass 3 yards past the LOS, and the 1Q reinforced that notion. But the Bengals are smelling blood, it’s gonna be tough to flip the script

Mr. Ed and his teammates better get it together fast or they’re gonna be one sorry sack of tiger-mauled spotted kitties

You see my point? Strong family resemblance there

Trevor Lawrence still looks like a horse A well-bred horse of course, but a horse

I think that last is 100% safe bet

So, Everybody: ‘Fess up. Who had “Tied 14-14 at the Half” on their Kitty Bowl Bingo Card? It’s actually pretty fun watching a decent game I really don’t care too much about the outcome

I think they came out ready to defend the 3 yard flat and slant with Browning throwing and they need to re-set Is it just me or do both SNF and MNF have totally lame-ass little graphics? FIFY

Time for Pederson and Caldwell to show they’ve got it going on as coaches and can make the adjustments

Browning is throwing to all kind of Bengals players I’ve never heard of

So far, some of the Bengals receivers are living Tyreek Hill’s quip to a reporter “ I could put up yards with YOU throwing to me.” But this Browning kid is starting to look as though he can ball.

Why do you call Burrow ‘douchey’? He was 100% class in the cancelled game last season. A number of Bengals strike me as kinda douchey, but Burrow isn’t one, to me.

I want Jax to win. I don’t want Yet Another Team in the chase with us for a WC spot

Historically, the NFL does not take action to impose suspensions or other discipline for alleged crimes until the criminal case is resolved (one way or another) and the NFL (in the case of DV) completes its own investigation. There will be no suspension until at earliest, next fall. You can color me much surprised if any suspension is even announced until far too late into the new league year next spring to do the Bills a bit of good with their cap situation (which, would only be about $8M for the standard suspension). So I guess if you want to consider "normal course of actions" as "dragging their feet", then they're dragging their feet. The Bills are not going to release Von. Releasing Miller this season would cost the Bills something like $32M in additional cap they simply don't have on the books. The only thing that might happen this season is the league placing Miller on Commissioners Exempt list, in which case the Bills play him to sit around in sweats.

I'm not thrilled with adopting the role of "DV explainer" here, but statistically, women in DV relationships are most at risk during pregnancy (perinatally) Nationwide, homicide (usually due to domestic violence) is the leading cause of death in pregnant women. Read that again: Domestic violence kills more pregnant women each year than any other cause.