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Bizarreness is as Bizarreness does? I thought your response was bizarre myself (obviously) You'd do you, but I've already said why from what I know, that's not how most football players would think about it especially young guys trying to earn a spot in the starting rotation. And players who do are kind of given the side-eye - remember the reactions to Russ Wilson talking about how he handled his hammy injury on the plane to London? If it's that well known, wouldn't opponents just target accordingly?

Depends on if they knew the specifics and extent of the injury. If they didn't, perhaps? The NFL has weasel wording in there defining whether or not an injury is "reportable". If the injury limits the player's participation in practice or for a game, it's reportable. If it's to a "key player", it's reportable. Otherwise, if it doesn't impact the player's ability to participate in practice or cause him to miss a game, apparently not. You can read about it here if you like, weasel words and all https://operations.nfl.com/media/2683/2017-nfl-injury-report-policy.pdf Elam showed up on the injury report Week 7 (NWE) and Week 8 (TAM), and then went on IR week 9. I can easily see a scenario where Elam was reporting to the training room for treatment on "ankle soreness" and getting PT, but wasn't getting better or even got worse after playing near the whole game vs. Jax Wk 5 and the whole game vs the Giants Wk 6, so they sent him for another MRI and a surgical consult.

I was responding to why Elam might not have wanted to disclose his pre-season injury while he was still trying to play through it. I'm really unsure what you're getting at here. Are you suggesting that reporters should track an injured player down at home or stake out the entrance to the Bills sports medicine facility and jump him to get a story? That sounds kind of creepy and stalker-ish to me. Injured players aren't required to be in the areas of the building accessible to the press, they're not required to make themselves available to the press.

This isn't pretty: players target their opponents injuries. For that reason, players who are dinged up don't want to show on the injury report unless they miss enough practice that the league requires it of them. Players who are actually injured don't want to disclose specifics of their injuries. Plus, all that aside, some players like to preserve their medical privacy. I wonder if it originally wasn't diagnosed as torn, or if it was only slightly torn but then tore worse.

What did you make of Josh's remarks?

Does Parsons always line up on the RT? Doesn't he move around? Say more about the metrics or observations that lead you to tag Brown as "better than average", please? How. Do. I. Get. Video. Of. This. Corgi Races 😍

I'll play resurrectionist on this thread. @HoofHearted & others, wonder if you could kindly do a break down on what the coverage should have been on the "Toney Offside" play? We all saw how open Kelsey was. It's my impression that Christian Benford was supposed to be covering Kelsey and Toney picked him hard. 1) Is that corrrect or should Cam Lewis/someone else have covered Kelsey when he crossed in front of them? 2) If it should have been Benford, what should Benford have done to avoid getting "boxed out" of the play like he was? Apologize for not the best image quality or sequence, but this is what I'm talking about 0. Dane Jackson on Toney, but releases to take up Noah Grey. Kelsey has free release but looks to me like Benford has him [Edit: that's not Dane Jackson, it's Taron Johnson. Brain fart on my part] 1. Lewis on Toney, but Benford right there - is Benford expecting Lewis to leave Toney to him and Lewis cover Kelsey? 2. My best try at catching when Toney turns his back and slams his body into Benford Again, apologize for not better pics And please folks, let's NOT talk about the pre-snap penalty sitch here, I'm hoping to get some insight into what the coverage was on the play and what went wrong to leave Kelsey so open.

Jerruh can not "eat most of Diggs cap hit". Diggs cap hit if traded will consist of amortized bonuses which do not get traded. Especially the hit in the Jets game, a personal foul, after the whistle and totally uncalled for - I don't understand why the league doesn't stand up more against those.

I can always be surprised - I often am - but I would be very surprised to see the Bills trade Diggs, or Dallas trade for Diggs From the Bills side: 1) Diggs would count $31.1M dead cap if cut or traded. At $27.85M cap hit, it is literally "cheaper to keep him" for the Bills in 2024. 2) He is still, by far, the best WR on the Bills team. Every Bills fan is talking about how we need more options at WR for Josh, not how we need to get rid of the best and try to back-fill him, while simultaneously trying to upgrade for Gabe Davis. From the Dallas side: 1) They exercised the 5th year option on CeeDee Lamb for $17.99M in 2024. Capology generally holds that a team paying its QB can not afford to be simultaneously paying top $$ to two WR. And CeeDee Lamb has done very well for Dallas. He's their #1 guy for reals - #3 WR in the league right now with a 73% catch % 2) Dallas also has Michael Gallup under contract for 3 more years, with a $13.8M cap hit and $13.1M dead cap if they move on. Gallup is an OK #2. He's not been as productive for Dallas as Davis has been for us. 3) I'm sure Dallas would love to upgrade Gallup for Diggs, but Diggs 2024 salary is $18.5M and it fully guarantees in March. And, like I said, $13.1 dead cap on Gallup if they trade or cut him. 4) That's not even mentioning the notion of Diggs going to Dallas to be #2 to CeeDee Lamb. I'm sure Diggs would love to be traded to a team as their #2 guy (NOT). Diggs brother is just daydreaming in public.

Rookies always have a learning curve. At this juncture, wouldn't it make more sense to give Shakir or Cook or Kincaid those few more snaps?

Oh, come now. Spill the Tea.

Really well put. Mahomes was carrying on as though the flag was a walk-off loss. Instead he got a repeat of the down, and 2 more downs, three tries to convert, AND if the play had stood, the Bills did still have time, timeouts, and Josh Allen. Toney didn't just catch the lateral. Kelce was open because in a pretty blatant pick play (my opinion) Toney wiped out the defender who was covering Kelce. That's a penalty, too. And, as usual, the Chiefs RT was lined up in an illegal formation well into the backfield. There could have been three separate flags on that play.

Thanks. So it's being reported by Tom Curran. He's legit, Patriots Insider with NBCSports Boston. I don't think there's someone quite similar with the Bills but a while back it would be like Vic Carruci reported it, or now a days like if Sal Capaccio and Thad Brown had a sports reporter child. That's a disturbing image, actually, I think I'd best log out.

I don't think we're going to see Daquan Jones until he has been "designated to return" and has participated in practice for a couple of weeks. Even if his pec is ready to go, he needs to build back into "game shape"

I see a lot of tweets (or whatever they're called now" referencing this "NBC report", but where is the link to said NBC Report, and who is the NBC reporter who made it?

I'm sorry, but the OP post referenced the Fins C injury as "The cards keep falling Buffalo's way". I'm not feeling sorry for the Fins, but viewing their C's injury as a card falling our teams way is a Bridge too Far IMHO. You do You though.

That's a reasonable take. The whole premise of the Bills FO last season was that they didn't need to replace Sanders or Beasley because Davis and McKenzie were ready to step up, with Jamison Crowder and rookie Khalil Shakir as Plan B. That premise did not prove out and Plan B was from outer space.

It was pointed out in the post-game thread that KC's defense is one of the best in the league against the pass. 4th in pass Y/A, tied for 3rd in sacks, 3rd in sack %, 5th in QB hits, 2nd for pressure %, 5th for hurry %. So while I'd love to see more investment in OL, esp. at C and RT, it has to be understood that even the very best pass protecting OLs are not going to keep their QB looking comfortable in the pocket against the very best pass defenses. There have to be other strategies available.

Well, people have made a point that the OL seems to be holding on the TV view just before it switches downfield. So I'd love to hear from someone with the all-22

He talked about them in a presser. He said he hadn't talked to his brother personally, that his brother was not speaking as an insider to the organization but from the outside as a fan, without insight into the organization. He said he would hope that people would come at it from a place of respecting that it's his family, his brother, but he also said he's not responsible for what his grown-ass brother feels or says on social media, and media should take it up with him and not expect Stef to answer for what bro says:

Mango, I lack all-22. If you have it, especially if you have the little moving diagram thing, can you look at what kind of pressure Josh had at the point where Davis was open and Josh threw? In the televised view which shows Josh protected, then looks downfield, it's hard to see what was going on at the point where Josh had to decide.

That seems like "Whattaboutism" as presented here. I'm not saying that Trevon Diggs tweets weren't an issue, but they were discussed in their own threads at the time, along with Diggs response to them. It seems as though one really should be able to discuss this current issue without calibrating it against other family members weighing in.

You say that because those things commonly ARE regarded as reflections of one's character. They are also commonly described as "making the issue personal". "Don't make it personal" as standard advice to people managers and leaders dealing with problematic behavior doesn't mean "don't talk about an employee's home life at work" (one definition of personal) It means stick to the issue at hand: the observed workplace behavior, the impact it has on team members or deliverables, and so forth. Refusal to take accountability is a perceived issue or behavior at work. Attributing that issue or behavior to a cause like jealousy, insecurity, psychological inability to form relationships, or narcissism is, in fact, "making it personal" or making it about that person's character. That would be why, as @JohnNord commented above, "Just about everyone on the Bills and in the media said that it was personal". They said so because according to the definition of personal they're using (commenting on the inner person, their internal motivations, psychosocial traits, or character), it was personal. I go back to my Rorschach Test now

Not bad analogy.