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Don’t hold back, Pat, tell us how you really feel. It is, actually. I probably should just mute it though.

Did Collinsworth seriously just say of Daniel’s “everyone else in the league slides right there” C’mon Cris.

LOL. I can not imagine who, on the Jets, thought it was a good idea to march onto another team’s home field playing ‘Gangsta Paradise”. Josh’s expression says it all. “Seriously? We’re doing this?” Dumbest idea since TikTokBoi dancing pre-game on other team’s logos

Please go smell some grass. Receivers and QBs communicate about incompletions through hand gestures all the time. The next TD pass was thrown higher and caught.

Think he’s referring to a pseudo-bye where we rest many of the starters ‘cuz the win or loss has no seeding impact.

I didn’t know Jamison Crowder was still playing

Looks much better than he looked at USC Looks like he’s seeing the field well, going through his reads, and not getting flustered by pressure I certainly don’t want to listen to or watch Cris Collinsworth doing it!

Over Under on me keeping Collinsworth volume on as far as the 2nd half? The ball washing on Penix and and the Falcons is already unreal.

Meanwhile, in Minnesota, Sam Darnold played like his jock was on fire and throwing laser darts all over the field would put it out. I wonder what it’s like to be a Jets fan and watch the QB that your team drafted #3 overall (ahead of Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson) but then ran out of town, leading Minn to a 14-2 season and the (current) division lead?

Oh, outstanding! Somehow I missed the 2nd sack in the 3Q Way to go, D!

The OP who skipped the question mark and the person who typed all that stuff ware not one and the same

So happy the Bills D denied him his 500th TD. Would have liked us to get another sack so he could set that record for “most sacked”

After the trade deadline, all released players must pass through waivers. Regarding ‘Nard Dog I think your noticer needs to be put on notice.

McDermott will tell you “it all starts up front”. His defensive design critically relies upon mainting gap integrity against the run AND getting enough pressure to make the QB uncomfortable and rushed with 4 DLmen. That’s why historically he’s been able to be a ‘DB whisperer”

Does anyone know anything about Anderson's injury?

I think they're resigned to the probability that he won't win MVP and they have bigger team goals in mind, like going into the playoffs healthy.

I'm not saying that they are, but that rather adds to the point, right? If you have not-so-great starters and you replace them with their backups, it's an issue that different play-calling from the DC is not going to solve.

I understand that point of view. But people who hold it have to understand that one uber-talented player is not enough; if it were, 15 years of Rodgers in Green Bay would have resulted in more than one Superbowl win. There has to be enough of a talented team put in place around that QB as well. The point of view that irks me is the one which seems to hold that replacing a winning coach who has built a consistently contending culture with - just about anyone? is going to automagically be an improvement that results in Championships. Because it's not.

I would roll my eyes at your BIL. If Haley had such a great clue, why post-Pittsburgh did he spend 2 years coaching HS and now coaching USFL? Tomlin spent 6 years with Haley as his OC, but all of a sudden he's "intimidated" by him and he has to go because he's not a "yes man"? As HC of the Chiefs, Haley was noted as an egomaniac who created an atmosphere of mistrust and intrigue. Canning Haley and hiring Reid a year later was clearly a great move. As the Pittsburgh OC, there was notable conflict between Haley, Big Ben, and sometimes other players (Blount). At the time, it was rumored that Pittsburgh moved on from Haley because he and Ben just couldn't work it out. Big Ben had his most productive season as a passer the year after Haley left, so there's that.

Thank you. Yes, I agree. And it's not that the Steelers organization hasn't taken some shots. They just haven't taken enough of a shot, and with both Pickett and Wilson they really didn't put enough of an OL in front of them. The Bills made that same OL sieve mistake in 2018 with Allen but because he's 1 of 1 he overcame it - took him a couple years though.

I think the Yinzers have a right to be concerned about their organization. 2 SB appearances and 1 win is arguably underperforming for a decade of Prime Big Ben. On the other hand, for the last 6 years, Tomlin has been dealt a bum hand at the most important position (QB). They tried to address it in the later rounds 2x hoping they could get a guy who would grow into the job behind Roethlisberger (Dobbs, Rudolph). They tried to address it in the 1st (Pickett). They tried to address it by signing a former great (Wilson). So it's certainly not all on Tomlin, but it also hasn't been Enough. I understand the concerns that McDermott is good, but maybe not good enough, but this nonsense folks toss around as though they could pluck just about anyone out of anywhere and do as well, let alone better is wearing my last nerve.

McDermott wasn't dealing with the kind of injuries Babich has been dealing with. Yes, Milano - same. But c'mon, we've also had 3 games without our MLB, 3 different games without BOTH our starting safeties AND 2 of those without a starting CB in addition..... I think it's a push, myself. I think there are times when Babich has called a more aggressive and attacking defense, and times when McDermott might have called a better defense. One thing I like is that they actually change the scheme a bit to match the personnel on the field. Leslie Frazier was 100% "Next Man Up, nothing changes". Babich is "you know what, I'm not going to expect Cam Lewis, Cole Bishop, and Kaiir Elam to play the same zone with the same connectedness and precision as my starters did. Let's man up and eat!" That has been a fair point for a while. McDermott's insistence on a DL rotation means we can't really go fo the gusto in great players, because we have to be able to resource enough players that are 'starter' quality vs having a big talent dropoff.

I know, right? Before the season the prevailing mood around here was to piss and moan about how the season was gonna suck because we hadn't done enough to replace our losses at WR, safety and CB and then injuries at LB. So now we're 12-3., locked up the division with 5 weeks to go, and it's all McDermott's fault ? Some people are never happy