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Monday 4:30 pm in Buffalo

Diggs 5 years in Minn 63 games started, 365 receptions, 4623 yds Diggs 4 years in B'lo 65 games started, 445 receptions, 5372 yds. FIFY Brudda from another mudda?

OK. I'm not deaf, you don't need to shout at me. Maybe edit your post to say that? I mean, people reading the thread come upon your post long before they come upon the clarification. Minor nit: Browns: football organization, the Cleveland Browns Brown's: something belonging or pertaining to someone named brown

Why would the Browns have a presser 90 minutes before kickoff? Oh now

When the Vikings sailed off into the ocean braving the great storm, did they expect the Coasties to set out in the heart of said storm to save their butts after they foundered? Did they expect the rescue swimmer to jump into 30 foot seas to line them into the chopper?

Oh, sheesh, even a 2 gallon zippie too big then. This kind of thing, right? You allowed one of them 12x 12s , or two? https://www.amazon.com/Stadium-Approved-12×6×12-Festival-Non-Removable/dp/B07RFBFG4H/ref=sr_1_9?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.mrcLpgV93t2E85ckEy78dRc8XQzPpfWt4gY13nSsZoRZyRAwVs03Yiu5wlaWvUhSj_mwUSEFH-CNdM5tP4XptYT93SjFQs-StkwiL2RNTWs7FebB3siZYYa7JDjrnI_fUBEBiz1hGCkLPQLRNtqlWg.AnUlt4z9pzcPChNsObKsd6511ZXkPvcpNv09rg0fKFk&dib_tag=se&keywords=12x12x6+clear+stadium+bag&qid=1705162384&sr=8-9 You kinda vacuum pack your gear in ziplocks you smash while you suck out the air with a straw, you can get a lot in 12x12x6 tho. We used to have a couple guys here who were Meteoroligists in training or something and who would explain what the different models were showing and whether they agreed or disagreed. I would love to understand what the different models are showing. I suppose, for public consumption, they have to give the worst case scenario because if they don't and then people get caught out, it's there fault

Hey, you don't know, the Dolphins could come out of there alive. I hear being frozen slows your metabolism, revitalizing in some circumstances Patty could get clubbed by a frozen flipper, that's gotta hurt.

'Lil late for this time, but would this work? https://clear-handbags.com/products/clear-duffel-bag As a separate note, my life changed when I discovered there is such a thing as a 2 gallon ziplock bag 🥰🥰

Picking up @Simon on the way so he can lick your door handles and cough on you, right?

Where I am https://www.nws.noaa.gov/wtf/MapClick.php?site=BUF&textField1=42.7833&textField2=-78.7467&lg=ep Doesn't seem to have changed much as far as wind. They've taken the snow accumulation predictions off of Sunday and Monday, maybe that's just an error with the updated forecast and they'll add it back in.

I dunno about peak, but the NOAA forcast calls for 32-37 mph winds possibly gusting "as high as 65". I would guess that number has an error bar which is where 60-75 might come from, but that would seem like the upper end of the upper end. Still, if I were a Steeler, I'd be wondering if a 3 hr bus drive to hotel near Highmark Stadium might be preferable to a bus to the airport, 1:15 flight, bus to hotel.

Oh, dear. Well, that makes him sound splendid. But saying he's averaged 24 passing attempts and 234 yds per game (of which 60% are YAC), and has a total of 3 passing TDs in 3 games, might make him sound a bit more ordinary? He's certainly elevated the QB play in Pittsburgh, but the bar was kinda low.

We have an employment Hx with Boeing here in the fam (not I) and I don't think that's quite right. Here are a couple articles that explain it pretty well if anyone is interested. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/09/boeing-hid-design-flaws-in-max-jets-from-pilots-and-regulators/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/the-inside-story-of-mcas-how-boeings-737-max-system-gained-power-and-lost-safeguards/ My understanding: Boeing aeronautical engineers (we know several) ID'd an aerodynamic problem with the Max during scale model testing - a pitch-up during a specific area of the flight envelope. They didn't ID a straightforward aerodynamic fix within their timeline. So yes, there was a known stability issue requiring a software fix, and this had nothing to do with intended non-first-world airline sales. They decided to develop MCAS to address the stability issue - but they designated it as "non safety critical", thus able to actuate off a single sensor instead of the redundant sensors required of safety critical items, because they explicitly assumed (and the FAA signed off on the assumption) that well-trained pilots would immediately respond to an unexpected activation (within 3 seconds). Then, because it was designated "non safety critical", they left a description of MCAS and the assumption that the pilots were the primary backup for a MCAS malfunction out of their manuals and training programs (and again, the FAA signed off on this). There's more dirt but I'll stop there. I'm not saying that there may not have been some design considerations around hoped-for 3rd world markets, but there was definitely a stability issue with the Max for which they implemented a software control fix. As far as the plug door, United Airlines may be correct that the loose bolts relate to a manufacturing issue. Of course it's in their interest to say "not on their watch" as far as any maintenance/inspection program. Early days. But in general, anything bolted in place that regularly undergoes vibration and thermal expansion and contraction needs a data-driven regular inspection interval to ensure the bolt torque remains in spec. Expect scrutiny of how the regulatory process defining the inspection and setting the interval played out between the FAA and Boeing. Spirit, the supplier, has been under scrutiny for QA/QC issues in general . Boeing spins off business units to become independent companies, who then serve as contract manufacturers for Boeing but with less oversight from both Boeing and the FAA. The contractors then prioritize product delivery over safety and cut corners. Spirit is one example of many. We have one in St Louis that has had issues. Would be nice to see that change.

He's out of concussion protocol. Limited all week, but no game status.

Can't move it to Detroit, Rams vs Lions there on Sunday night. When it comes to distance, Detroit Cleveland and maybe Toronto (if still up to NFL standard) only fields within reasonable load-up-the-trucks-and-go distance.

Josh has thrown 1 or more INTs in 15 of the 17 games this season, including all 3 of the most recent 3 games. Only recent game with 0 int was Dallas, where we rushed 49 times and passed 15 times. So that part of their opinion would appear to be grounded in Fact. I don't understand the viewpoint that the Bills defeat the Steelers easily, even if the weather were perfect. The Steelers have a very solid defense, #6 in the league for points. #8 for take-aways. They have wins against the Browns, Ravens (2x), Rams, and Packers, all playoff teams; they also won against Cincy (2x) and the Seahawks, teams expected to contend. Like the Bills, they have somewhat inexplicable losses to teams they really should have beaten, namely the Patriots and Cardinals. They have a talented 1-2 punch at RB in Harris and Warren. They have a solid coach in Tomlin, and a QB hungry to play whose body is "early in the season" for bumps and bruises. It's very shallow trendy analysis, IMHO. I think you slipped and fell into his Sar Chasm ⛰️⛰️

Well, we did have one player miss Thursday practice for "personal" reasons.

I think that the commercial weather services do like to generate clicks and hits. OMG snow measured in feet! 55 mph winds! Those generate clicks. You're right, if there are 55 mph winds and snow measured in feet for the game, that is dangerous weather and should preclude the game for safety reasons. However, the picture painted by the current NOAA forecast for Orchard Park is not nearly so dire https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-78.78850936883926&lat=42.776549603035136 They're talking 5-9" of snow possibly accumulating over the entirety of Sunday, 25-30 mph winds. Yes, that's bad weather, but it's not 'extremely dangerous/deadly'. I've snowshoed and skiied in those conditions. Love the cave story, by the way. As to whether it's safe and sane to have people traveling for a football game in those conditions, or to try to play it, I leave that for people who are actually seeing the several weather models and who are charged with public safety.

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/greg-cosell-steelers-bills-in-depth-game-preview-x9124 Some here find Cosell negative about the Bills, but I think he is very positive about them.

So which logical fallacy is this? I'm losing track...I probably need to write myself a list I can consult while reading various posts here. First you start out with "no human can pass in the wind conditions being forecast". Then it's pointed out, with historical weather data, that Josh in fact did pass in pretty much those weather conditions in the Dec. 21 Patriots game, so, he probably can pass in those wind conditions. Now you exaggerate the factual counterpoint to "no worries" and "literally sling that ball in a tornado" and "pass for over 300 yards". I know that's a logical fallacy you're perpetrating here, but I'm losing track of which one.

Josh Reed trolls Ari Meirov:

New England Patriots at Buffalo Bills 8:15 pm. As we can see, wind was ~30 mph from the WSW at game time, with gusts up to 46 mph at game time, gust speed falling and wind falling slightly during the game. Josh Allen 15 of 30 for 145 yds. No, it's not a record-setting passing performance but the point is - he threw in it. Now, you're probably gonna say "but my point is....the Patriots won, 14 to 10!". So I'll move on to my point: football, for all its chess moves and complexity, is at core a simple game. It comes down to, as Josh's Wyo Coach used to say, "Man whupping man". The Pats don't sniff victory if Breida doesn't fumble a handoff from Josh. Hang on to the rock and as @oldmanfan said, "go out there and whup their butts."

Exactly.

We may need that. Hopefully the team is asking everyone to spend Sat. night at a nearby hotel. I know the team has meetings, dinner, meetings, and chapel and puts most players up in a hotel, but I also know they've historically allowed a few of their stars to be home with their families either overnight or the following morning ('Zo Alexander was one). This would be a good night to say "everybody stay at the hotel, no exceptions".

What's your food full of, or shouldn't I ask? I don't think the shovelers get free tickets now a days. They get paid $20/hr, which for overnight work 10 pm to 10 am might be $240 And access to a warming room/chow