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If you go to Youtube and search for "Hard Knocks Dolphins Episode 9" you might find something.

Don't forget Elam's interception I think Reggie Gilliam's gonna do something. SLEDGE!

He's certainly capable of it

I was thinking that might fold into 'assignment', but maybe not - we're way over my knowledge here. One example of what you mean, I think, would be a game the Bills played against KC a while ago. I forget who it was, might have been Baldy, might have been Cover1, but they did a breakdown of how the Bills used Milano in that game, and it was basically like a "super Spy" where the Bills D was playing to influence which direction Mahomes would go when he flushed out of the backfield, then Milano would be waiting to tackle him. It was really well explained and it was clearly a successful game plan where Milano had a huge impact on the outcome of the game and Mahomes gained very few yards. As I recall, PFF graded him abysmally for that game, presumably because he wasn't covering guys or tackling RBs and they had no idea what his assignment actually was.

Tim Fox? Raymond Clayborn? Mike Haynes? That's the frustrating thing about Elam. That series in the Steelers game was a microcosm of his Bills career to date: 1) gets run over on a tackle, I grant you by a larger player but our other smaller players hit and stick it 2) gets a well deserved DPI call 3) makes a pick in the EZ

I already addressed your first and last sentence, but I'd like to address these points. Again, you deserve a Shout! for your good Samaritan action taking care of a guy's snow removal crisis. You still need to be responsive of people's points. Let's delve into PFF graders and do some simple math. PFF states they employ 600 full and part time analysts but less than 10% are trained to the level where they grade plays and 2-3% percent to the level of reviewing and finalizing grades. OK, so that means they have less than 60 people grading plays and 12-18 people reviewing and finalizing them. We'll use 60 and 12-18 in our assessment. In a typical game there are average 63 offensive and 63 defensive plays. That's 126 plays per game for each team, or 4032 plays per week. Each of those plays involves 11 players PFF gonna grade, so 44352 player plays per week to grade. If less than 10% of their 600 analysts grade plays, that means each analyst is grading at least 739 plays over a span of a couple days. For the data to be useful for teams, they would need the grades at latest Tuesday after the game - Monday for their own players, since they review film and do corrections on Monday; Tuesday for their next opponent since that's when the coaches create the game plan for the next week, which they install with the team Wednesday. So less than 60 analysts would be reviewing 44352 plays in 24 hrs so that 12-18 people can review and finalize them. Let's say they work a 12 hr shift (brutal, but people do it). That would say they're reviewing 61.6 plays per hour. They say "Each grade is reviewed at least once, and usually multiple times, using every camera angle available, including All-22 coaches’ tape." 2 All-22 views, usually 3 or 4 broadcast camera views, so what - 10 seconds per view? Then there are those senior analysts. Let's say they only review 25% of the plays or 11088 plays, as the other 75% are considered straightforward. Again, to be useful to the team, these data are needed by Tuesday am at latest, so let's say we have 12 or 18 people reviewing those plays in another 12 hrs, that's 51 - 77 plays per hour. Let's contrast this with the NFL, where, let's say on offense, the Bills average 65.5 plays per game on offense. The OL coach has an assistant coach (and possibly an intern or another offensive assistant) and 5 players in on every play, so and his assistant have 328 plays to review and grade. That's half the number of plays, for twice the number of people per play, by people who know the play call and the assignment to start with. And that's the busiest room on offense. The WR coaches are grading 180 plays per game since 2 or 3 WR sets. The RB coach is grading an average of 71 plays per game since the Bills do very few 2 back sets. etc. Just on sheer arithmetic, it doesn't make sense to me that teams would rely on PFF to grade their players. Now: to your statement "we can all see on All-22 what the play is". I would like to remind you of a discussion that took place earlier this season between yourself, @Buffalo716, and @HoofHearted regarding what the defensive coverage was on a specific play thus what the assignment responsibilities were. You're obviously someone who knows some ball, but does the phrase "I run the coverage you’re referring to and it’s not played the way you think it’s played. If you’d like we can go to PMs and I can teach it to you" ring a bell? Yes, football isn't rocket science, but there are a lot of subtleties, and those subtleties impact what each player is actually supposed to be doing. You even ran into that here about 2 months ago, so I'm not sure how (if you're intellectually honest in discussion) it's so challenging for you to acknowledge this. The point is even guys who know ball and understand coverages can have to look at a play a couple times to understand what the coverage and thus the roles and responsibilities were supposed to be before zeroing in on how well each filled their assignment.

You earned *respect* for your Good Samaritan action of sending a snowplow to the drive of a brother fan with a snowblower. But I know it's been explained to you over and over that the data PFF pays for is not their grades. It would be nice if you would acknowledge this. In particular, in the first link, there are a LOT of data in those fields - of which player grades are only two fields. Ultimately useful player grades are based on 1) knowledge of the play call and the player's assignment in the called play 2) perception of how they executed their assignment, their technique and effort. The first is not data PFF has. The second is not objective data per se though coaches who know their players and scouts who watch a ton of film can be very consistent in this assessment. When former players such as Kurt Warner, JT O'Sullivan etc are putting together film they frequently caveat their critique "I don't know what the reads were in this play, for me it would be....". That's because even these guys who have forgotten more football than the rest of us will know, are aware that they don't understand the details of the play. And sometimes they're caught out by that (Warner calling out Reggie Gilliam as the first read on the throw where Knox got mugged)

I could be wrong here and again, hope I will be corrected but I think actual coaches grading game film are not considering things like the contract of the player, the difficulty of the assignment, and the ability of the player when grading. Those are things which are taken into account when "valuing the positions" and "ranking the players against positional value" which Beane has talked about the FO and coaches doing after the season. I redirect to what @Buffalo716 said upthread since I know he knows something about it: https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/252639-once-and-for-allpffffffffft/page/3/#comment-8885301 The coaches grade on assignment, technique, and effort. Did you "bring it" on that play? Did you use good technique? And did you "do your job"? If a player (like AJ Klein filling in for Milano in 2020) is giving maximal effort and using sound technique, but simply can't complete his assignment because he's being asked to do things beyond his physical abilities, then the coaches need to see that and adjust his assignment to something within his physical capabilities while he's on the field, but it's not taken into account in the grade.

I see your point about him being authentic, but I also see @That's No Moon's point that "Don't Think About Elephants" tends to bring thoughts of elephants into your head and "I wish it were colder" does the same thing with weather. I could be giving the Dolphins too little credit, but I felt that we damned near beat ourselves with stupid turnovers more than they damn near upset us. I didn't mean to be saying his players didn't care globally, because I'm sure they do, and maybe nothing he could say would make a difference - ultimately, I think they they were battling too many defensive injuries and had lost too many pieces from their defense to be competitive in KC and they knew it. But in that segment of Hard Knocks, he sure didn't seem to be impressing them.

I kind of see your point. To me anyway, it would come across more sincerely if he were "I'm freezing cold all the time, even in Miami. But you guys can play red hot. We've had one goal in sight all year round, and it's here: Win a Playoff Game. I'm counting on you to play so hard you knock the F out of Freezer" or something like that.

Its. Sarcasm. I think the pump fake should be a 15 yard penalty . . . . . . ====>sarcasm<=====

And you know, I don't want to dog the man for that. Different people have different thermostats. But maybe, if you're cold at 46 degrees in NYC, it doesn't come across the best when you wear a shirt that says "I wish it was COLDER" and telling your players it's going to be fantastic for them to be slamming into the cement hard Astroturf of Arrowhead while you're huddling next to the heater in your puffy coat

Well, we'll see. That was with Roman's offense. Maybe That was Then, This is Now. I'm not saying that because I want to see the Ravens go any further, but do you really believe Josh Allen and the Bills have no chance against the Chiefs because the Chiefs in the playoffs have beaten them twice? Past performance no guarantee of future results and all that.

So for right now, Hard Knocks Episode 9 Full Episode up on Youtube So far I'm "up to" McDaniel standing in front of an auditorium with his team, wearing men's capris and a substantial-looking long sleeved sweater with a high collar, telling his team that their playoff loss to Buffalo (in Buffalo) last season was so much fun in the cold, that he asked last year "I wish it was colder" and got his wish, and they're going to have so much fun in the arctic air of Arrowhead. They look un-persuaded by his rhetoric. Especially when they're in KC and a lot of the players have bare arms, while he's huddled up in a puffy coat with a hat and a neck gaiter and what looks like a neoprene face mask.

I could be wrong but I thought public safety isssues (severe weather necessitating driving ban, need to have emergency responders helping people vs. directing traffic and policing game) were the major reasons for the cancellation? In his interview on Pat McAfee, Mitch Morse said game safety concerns were pointed out to the players - for example, in the weather that occurred on Sunday, if there were a serious injury on the field, EMS could be unable to get the injured player through the weather to a Level 1 Trauma Center in a timely fashion. McAfee looked like he was having a 💡 "oh *****, you're right, I never thought of that!" moment. It is possible that enlightenment will come to Watt. Or, maybe not.

I can not disagree with you on the bolded point.

The 17 game NFL season vs. the 162 game MLB season will limit that sort of analysis

Agreed, we do indeed need players that can create plays like that.

Now this is High Class. Kudos!

Just a little note that while the practice squad elevations are now unlimited PER PLAYER, they are not unlimited PER GAME. Per game, still get 2. See Sal tweet before Steelers game about "two elevations" for three spots (needs)

I think Haack understands the winds in Highmark well enough. I'm worried he doesn't understand how to get the punt off fast enough before the opponents get there.

As far as releasing Fournette, he may have asked to go....but Sal points out we did have to release a veteran from PS

Baldy on how the KC pressure strategy backfired at times

First showed up after a "stinger" a couple weeks ago. After the Patriots game I think.

Technically, they had 13 players on injury report to the Bills 12. The most serious for the Chiefs is Derrick Nnadi, who is a new add to their injury report with a tricep injury. He's their starting nose tackle and the only DNP. Sneed limited with a calf is of interest, he's one of their starting corners. It's notable that Omenihu, one of their DEs, and Rashee Rice, are both nursing hammies. Unknown how serious.