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So, 15 to 18 months of jail time, maybe? Like Britt Reid after handicapping a little girl severely for the rest of her life?

Dude, Stop. You made statements, a couple of you asking you for sources is hardly "harassing you". Were we following around asking you on your every post? Following you around the site? Hitting up your DMs (I know I haven't)? What is this "harassment" you have suffered? If it's on Reddit or Youtube, it should be findable.

I voted "no", not because I think Beane is looking to trade for a star WR, but because I think Beane knew he couldn't trade for a star WR before this deal and this deal doesn't change anything.

With all due respect, that doesn't entirely make sense to me. By "cash spend" are you talking about "new cash"? Because all cap dollars were cash spend at some point - whether new cash, or a large cash payment up front that was amortized over all contract years. With regard to the Hurts deal, the cash spend this season is meagre, with a mere $13.5M dead cap hit but Hurts currently carries $120M dead cap hit.

I particularly like this one

Hmmm, well, maybe? We do know that Hurts signed a 5 year, $255M contract with $179M guaranteed last spring, right? I mean, you're not wrong, but a look at Hurts actual cap impacts....makes my head hurt Edit: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/jalen-hurts-47648/ I flatter myself that I'm decent at capology, and that one still makes my head hurt.

So did he visit the Bills?

Well played, Sir! That's a very fair point. But there are UDFA on various rosters around the league too. I think the point is, the plug isn't pulled on guys who can actually play in the league at Draft Pick #150, or Draft Pick #250, or Draft Pick #259. Some of the guys who get drafted earlier won't "cut the mustard", and some of the 7th rounders and UDFA will.

*perfect*

I see your point - and he is on the team. Would mean he's gotten skinny in the off-season though. Better put him on the Dawkins Diet If we're talking Eli Ankou though, let's give a Shout-out to his work off field https://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl360-gone-eli-ankou

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LOL, No.

YOU may be excused now!

I know who my brain told me that is, but who is it? From the Bills social media tiktok about golden moles

There's also a component of participation in individual sports like parkour, ninja, rock climbing, etc are soaring

Looked like he had his "skinny bod" on, ready to go shirtless on the red carpet. AND HE CAN MOVE!

HERE YOU GO! WHAT JOSH DID THIS OFF SEASON! (the last 2 seconds of this -

Matt Milano looks ready to keep him company

Good for him, I hope it helped pay his defense attorney for his 2014 DUI charges that got him released from the Colts in September. I don't remember when they instituted the bonus pool for UDFA. Da'Rick Rogers was 2013. So maybe he did get a bigger bonus. He could still get a bigger bonus if the pool was in effect or today - it's just a matter of how much of their pool they want to spend on 1 guy. So my point is, it's not likely to be THAT much bigger - maybe it's $120k vs $93k - and if a guy sticks on the roster, that difference is swallowed up by the $63k difference in salary between Mr Irrelevant and a UDFA rookie. Of course, if a guy gets cut and put on the practice squad, then the bonus is what matters.

I think the answer to your either or question is "Yes" FIFY

There were a number of folks here - IIRC I think @BADOLBILZ was one - who were salty over trading up to Cody Ford in the 2nd when DK Metcalf was still on the board. Though, if we're playing 2019 Draft "do over", I call dibs on AJ Brown.

That isn't quite true. UDFA have a minimum salary of $750,000 if they stay on the roster They can be paid a variable bonus, but each team has a total pool from which they can pay bonuses. So while they can use that entire pool on one player if they choose, the entire amount is rather small "Franchises only have a certain total amount of money that they can pull from to use for signing bonuses for UDFAs. The number is determined based on the team’s total budgeted allotment for rookies, and last year ranged between $160,000 and $200,000, depending on the team. Teams can give as much or as little of their pool to a single player, but they only have the budgeted allotment." https://dknetwork.draftkings.com/2023/4/29/23703444/udfa-salaries-how-much-money-do-undrafted-free-agents-make-nfl-salaries-2023-draft The last player drafted in the 7th round will get a signing bonus of $93k. While in theory, teams could sign an UDFA and give him more signing bonus, in practice, that usually doesn't happen.

Wellllllll.....a couple of things One is, as the author points out, the people who have cred on the line in a good draft (those inside NFL buildings) evaluate talent differently than the media pundits. So that's not to say that teams agree with him there are only 150 draftable guys ( that's typically about halfway through the 5th round - the Bills drafted Shorter with pick 150 last season. Some may think 125, some may think 250. Two is, for different teams, they aren't going to be the same 150 guys. So chances are good at pick 160 and 163, there are still going to be guys the Bills are interested in drafting. The overwhelming reason I roll my eyes is that last season, 485 undrafted players made NFL rosters. That's an average of 15 players per team. Some of these players, of course, are veterans who may have kicked around the league on practice squads before making a roster. But the Bills signed 7 just last season. Two of them are still around on the Practice Squad, while our 2 7th round picks were cut and are gone.

You know that would be a drop-off of 5-10 TD, about 800 yds and 100 receptions for Josh Allen and the Bills, right?

If it's desired to merge this into page 170 of the Diggs traded for picks thread, feel free I just thought this was interesting. I won't give my spin on it. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dion-dawkins-admits-bills-trading-stefon-diggs-was-a-blind-haymaker-but-ot-backs-buffalos-decision/