Beck Water

Oh do you now? What is your guarantee?

***** look for Rapp

Me too but they got to contain Milton

Wooot~. Wooot~. Nice drive by Trubisky and the backup OL

Well…. Not if we score 2 TDs

Is it just me or does Trubisky look like he hesitates on the handoff? Not smooth

LOL CBS showing the Hoodie and Mac n Cheese

Can you tell what the lineup is at OL? I see Van Pran Granger at C, see Clapp in there and Van Denmark…who is playing where besides C?

Forearm to the neck, good call on the roughing How many yards for Cook right now? I think he just went over 1000

Not a Dorsey fan, but somehow I think the problems with the Browns go deeper than OL and OC Some of both? I do think the problems with the Browns start above Dorsey's level so in that sense, he's a "fall guy" I'm pretty sure that Ken Dorsey was a main dish(ers) for Ty Dunne's "hit piece" on McDermott, with a possible side serving of Daboll. The reason I think this is partly the timing (the article came out during the bye week, 2 games after Dorsey got fired) and partly because of something John Wawrow tweeted characterizing the article as "former employee has issues with former boss" and something like "that's why a number of us are gonna sit this one out". I think the results Joe Brady achieved the rest of 2023 and in 2024, plus Dorsey's offense with the Browns, say that Dorsey was not a "fall guy" here, and so there may be something legit in the firing in that he failed to maximize the offense given the players he had to work with.

He's the most important of the OL so we want him available above all else, but the rest of the hosses will either be in harness to start the game, or available.

That actually might be what's driving the inactives list. The OL is every bit as important as the DL, but if they're gonna try to get Cook to 1000 yds and have Allen start the game, they need the OL out there. Will be interesting to see who actually plays.

I find it interesting that Samuel is active.

Fair, they planned and their plans fell through. When it comes to commercial planes under IFR, air traffic control and company ground ops have more influence really.

If I'm guessing, with LP from Samuel all week and a "questionable" designation, they want to give him another week to "get right". Cooper is out for "personal family reasons". Shakir is the team's most productive WR and I would assume they want to assure he's healthy. I think they may want to give Keon more reps, especially since he missed 4 games. My guess is that they really want to run the ball, and we're going to see a lot of 2 2 sets with Gilliam and Davis (or an extra OLman), Morris, Kincaid or Knox and 1 receiver; if there are 2 receivers they will be Hollins and Coleman. Morris is a converted WR and can run all the routes.

I don’t know that I believe that. Pittsburgh has a mediocre OL, Pickens played like he had oven mitts on his hands, and Wilson’s decision making is bizarro world. So Cindy’s D looked like a problem. But through the season Denver’s D is very good, while Cincy’s D not so much. I mean, consider that Pittsburgh’s offense is clearly not running on all 4 cylinders and they still beat them by only 2 points. I could be wrong, I think Denver may be a better team. Joe Burrow is a helluva player and his receivers are dangerous. Nevertheless.

Exactly. He would have had 4 more games to get one more sack. He certainly didn’t play like it.

Maybe, I just saw it. Apologies if there was a thread on it I couldn’t find.

Thanks - is Wundermap put out by weather underground?

Weatherbug, thanks. Will try it.

Can I say that the only one I don't want to see be achieved is Von Miller? We lost his services for 4 games because he couldn't keep civil with his babymama/girlfriend. We've been paying him a ridiculous amount of money to make his way back from injury. And given that history, I think he should sit until the playoffs when he might actually do something.

I think all of us aspire to more. But there's aspiring to more, and regretting the losses while trying to take an open-minded approach to what happened and what the Bills need to get over the hump, vs. being a Johnny One Note Campaigner against the coach and a total negger ('when any player besides Allen steps up in the playoffs" "I don't care about 13-3" etc etc)

Well played, LMFC, whoever you are. Well played.

My apologies, so you did. I think it's not uncommon for there to be one dominant team in each division and the rest not so much, and to have one division be bad. If you look across at the AFC that same year, the 2nd teams in 2 divisions were 10-7 (vs 9-8) and there was a division where the best team was 9-8 and nobody else was better than 7-10. I'm not sure you can support a "fluke - bad conference" argument on 1 win each for 3 teams, but maybe you want to try. Peace out.

I am amused by a couple of the responses to Wolfson though Like the airline ops and KMCI ground have no experience with this kind of weather (which is not that uncommon this time of year) and can't determine when it is safe to lift the ground hold and resume flight operations, they need Michael O'Donnell (whoever he may be) to tell them how to do their jobs. I am a bit surprised that the Chiefs didn't advance their departure time and get out of there earlier this morning, though. Anyway, per multiple sources the plane has departed and is enroute to Denver.