First Round Bust

to me this is the beauty of this website, you raise good points and Polian v Beane is a winning thread worthy onto itself...its like being in bar, wearing our zubaj pants and drinking Genny Creams, ordering wings and talking Bills...luv it. Polian and Beane are the same in that they turned loosers into consistent winners and had help from outstanding coahes with input into building a positive, thriving culture that lures free agents...they also had big balls making big trades (Biscuit for Polian) (multiple swaps to grab Josh for Beane) and both knew to have the franchise qb above all else...Polian with four super bowls and all that goes with it...Beane next with his accomplisments and keeping the championship window open long-term despite the cap and overall league-wide improved front-office competition with analytics, more scouts, quicker firings, etc

Other than Polian have to say Beane has been best GM in franchise history. Better than Butler and the rest for the most part were terrible. Beane himself has said there will be misses. Its the same for all GMs...misses when drafting which is projecting....his biggest draft misses are Ford, Boogie, AJE and and not keeping Teller, with Ed Oiliver on the bubble. Also neglecting taking OL earlier - relying on lower-round projects and washed-up vet guards...you can likely blame Kromer for Saffold as his recommendation was key I think. Free agency misses: parade of DL

so would Diggs...

13 SECONDS...13 DOG DAM SECONDS...I GOT YER 13 MOTHER TRUCKING SECONDS RIGHT EFFING HERE BEOTCHES

was thinking same, a former qb, or someone with a decent arm who knows 6 plays, 2 of which are passes, now playing another position as a backup ? would save a valuable roster spot, think about how often teams are need that third qb in a game, usually if first-string goes down you can make it thru the game with second-stringand then elevate that bartender...3rd-stringer from the PS...but first hope and pray...this Brock Purdy rule lives on for 1 season maybe.

Von said he was cleared for golf two months ago...football different story...we want him healed and as close to 100% to last the season and playoffs moreso than opening game and September

to your point, he doesnt have a VP with the Sabres and Bills, but he does have one at PSE, Executive VP Ron Raccuia, which is a bit odd as the those teams gen the big revenue but the track record of GMs and coaches is littered with road kill, NDAs, and a decade of learning the hard way, so he learned to trust, who ? Kim, but she seems to be incapacitated on the road to recovery hopefully...his kids are a bit young to make inner circle big decisions and dont have experience but neither did KIm...so is it Raccuia or just him collecting info, being conservative, and figuring it out in his own, which means doing nothing much other than counting his profits and where to re-invest.

Gumby called and said keep the day job cool, the aprons are a nice accessory - do they keep those as camp momentos or just the claymations....

agree - here is the list https://www.steelers.com/history/hall-of-fame/ one thing that amazes me is that both receivers Stallworth and Swann who were teammates are in, likely due to Super Bowl performances esp Swann, which is an advantage over other players who may have not even made the playoffs and the extra media coverage..if I had to pick one..Stallworth

Demand for NFL it very strong...as an alternative...the pre-season game will have the best seats and lowest prices, its a great way to take the kids to an afternoon game until they are old enough to pitch-in and pay for regular season games...road games are not cheap either...I paid just under 200 for each ticket in Miami, upper deck...add fees, travel, etc...but its a special event, vacation, as well so that helps justify it....

Howard Stern (Von listens)

See you in Miami on Jan 6 or 7 - section 310 row 10 seats 7 and 8 in the shade of course Lets go Buffalo !!! Lets make Miami our home for the weekend and take a home a big phat W !!!!

yes he should be home watching film of the bengals game and the Jax road loss from last year then have a zoom call with Dorsey and McD everyday all before lunch then comes running, stretching and lifting Tofu for breakfast, protein shake for lunch and salads for dinner - ok to sneak in a Jello Puddin Pop if coach says so Before bed churn some butter, darn some socks and bible reading before evening prayers at 845 PM and lights out at 9 PM God bless one and all

both got poached from our PS...Anderson did hang 1.5 years and spot starts with Eagles and Judy Tenuta went to Colts PS

Beane would not cuz he is 6 year senior at age 24.5 right now and that is a flag, guy we drafted may be short armed, but did play tackle for 3 years and is 2 years younger, Brugler (Beast) has our guy rated higher as well...

plus some UDFA and Bobby Hart, cuz... ya gotta have...Hart...

nope per Brugler and the Beast (extract from the Athletic) 110 career reception with 6 drops - none this season - missed 3 games due to hamstring injury and opted-out of bowl game, all of which pissed the Florida fans off so that ain't right//// Led team in receptions in 2022 (but not 2023)...yards per reception improved over each of his seasons... STRENGTHS: Impressive size/speed athlete … has the arm length that makes some offensive tackles jealous … linear speed to close cushion and force cornerbacks to respect his acceleration … dangerous in the deep third of the field … tracks the ball naturally and adjusts in flight to high-point the football … stabs with focus away from his body (only one registered drop over the 114 combined targets his junior and senior seasons) … ranked No. 2 in the SEC in yards per reception in 2022 (behind only his teammate Ryan Pearsall) … physical stature helps him overwhelm receivers as a blocker … has experience as a gunner on special teams. WEAKNESSES: Tightly wound, and some of the branches of his route tree are stiffer than others … leggy in and out of breaks, causing him to linger or round off his patterns … comes off the line tall and gives defenders a large target to press … doesn’t consistently use his body to shield or frame defenders downfield … has never been known as a YAC threat over his career … clear your schedule if trying to find forced missed tackles on his tape … disappointing career production and never reached 600 yards receiving in a single season in his five years in college. SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Florida, Shorter was the X receiver in head coach Billy Napier’s offense. One look at him and there is no mystery why he had more stars as a high school recruit than a clear-night sky, but he struggled to find his footing at Penn State and was more of a splashy weapon over his three years at Florida. Shorter has striking speed for his size and is at his best when he can stack coverage and create a vertical runway (75.9 percent of his 2022 catches resulted in a first down or touchdown). Though he provides a large strike zone for his quarterback, his contested catch success should be higher with his size advantage. Overall, Shorter is a one-speed runner with predictable route running, but his height/weight/speed mix is uncommon, and his ball-winning potential will tantalize NFL teams. His fit as a back-end-of-the-roster receiver makes him worth the risk

I posted this on my match.com profile....I yell at clouds during commercials while binge watching Fox News

extracts from the Athletic: Joe B - Points out this age, 23.5, which is about a year-older than the average first-round age for Bills under Beane, will be 28 at end of Knox contract... Dane Brugler - extract from The Beast (downloaded to subscribers)...note - youngest of 3 - mom would not let him play football, but played several other sports, led AAU team to national championship, picked-up football as senior in HS, played WR. STRENGTHS: Long, loose athlete with an adequate frame … uses lateral agility and flexible shoulders to quickly release off the line and accelerates into his routes … outstanding focus to isolate the football and catch the ball cleanly … comfortable adjusting mid-air and expanding his catch radius, showing unwavering trust in his ball skills … catches well in stride and stays balanced through contact (eight catches of 25-plus yards in 2022) … quickly collects himself to force overpursuit or make the first man miss (one of only three FBS tight ends with 16-plus forced missed tackles in 2022) … his dynamic speed cuts out of breaks creates interference/holding calls for the defense … willing and functional run blocker … shows the play speed to fit, hook and seal on cross-formation blocks … received positive character feedback from his coaches and was a member of Utah’s leadership council … had a career performance versus USC in 2022 with 16 receptions (on 16 targets) and 234 yards – his 16 catches was the most by an FBS player in 2022 … only Georgia’s Brock Bowers had more catches and receiving yards in 2022 among FBS tight ends. WEAKNESSES: Slender frame for the position and doesn’t have desired bulk … must continue developing his core strength … doesn’t have a strong blocking base and finds himself upright and off-balance … reaches his landmarks, but his body angles are inconsistent when working up a level or pulling on perimeter runs … messy pass-pro mechanics, often overextending, dropping his eyes and losing control … penalized four times as a senior (three false starts, one holding) … will round off his routes and lean into breaks, telegraphing his intentions … missed time as a senior because of multiple injuries, including a shoulder (October 2022) and thoracic injury (November 2022), which also sidelined him for the Senior Bowl and combine.

weak draft class, hoping a quality WR drops (unlikely) or Branch (S) (again unlikely) trying to trade up would only work to get ahead of Balt or NYG if they have a first round grade WR available Would love to trade pick 27 to the Lions for both of their second round picks (48 and 55) giving us 3 picks (59 is our own)

70s - Patulski, Dokes,Gant - it was the best of times, sex, drugs and rock-n-roll, it was the worst of times on the field 80s - Tuttle, Booker Moore - when Knox left so did the winning until Polian 90 - Williams James (he of the flame retarndant jersey), Flowers - Butler kept the boat afloat and the cigarettes lit 00s - Mcargo, Maybn - after Butler left and broke his heart, old man Wilson did not know and trust anyone without gray hair: Levy, Donahoe, Nix 10s - EJ , Sammy - Whaley Beane Era - not Tre, but Josh, Edmunds, Oliver, Rousseau, Elam - I dont see a bust, but Elam was a reach based on need

the off-season is getting repetetive round here...the off-season is getting repetetive round here the draft cant come soon enough...

this is from last years draft review - the Beast by Dane Brugler from the Athletic... SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Clemson, Spector played weakside linebacker in former defensive coordinator Brent Venables’ scheme. Spector was an afterthought as a safety in the Tigers’ 2017 recruiting class before moving to linebacker and steadily working his way up the depth chart, averaging 6.8 tackles per game over the past two seasons. Spector is a balanced athlete who is comfortable in space and breaks down well on the move to square up ball carriers. Though tough and decisive, he needs to be more patient with his key-and-react and will struggle to consistently shed blocks near the line of scrimmage. Overall, Spector has some safety-linebacker tweener traits, which hurts his potential NFL ceiling, but he is instinctive and athletic, which can keep him earning an NFL paycheck as a backup and special teamer. Considering what Edmunds did and did not do as a first-rounder....I dont see a play-maker (ceiling) or a play-stopper (floor) here ? Do you ? To your point, the 4.6/40 is not too bad, its average at best, but like I said he does not check enough boxes for me to be a starter...

issue is coverage abilities...too slow...7th rounder for a reason...has un-checked boxes

validated by Beane...