Generic_Bills_Fan

100% positive and no you don’t. This is like football 101 🤣 it is kind of surprising. Getting the ball back with three timeouts instead of two with limited time in a half is huge and teams constantly throw points away in those situations by blowing timeouts earlier in the game. All these terrible end game situations we have had are in part brought to you by the opposing coach not blowing timeouts earlier in the half

Could be mistaken identity haha I’ve had three people now tell me the Kincaid bobble had a timeout taken right after it doesn’t help the confusion that the Kincaid play happened around 3:30 in the first half 🤣

the Kincaid no catch we didn’t take a timeout ‘right after’ …the cook not inbounds catch we did. I think wires are getting crossed in this thread it seems lol

People are clearly discussing both plays at the same time 😂. Multiple people referred to a Kincaid blown timeout. the cook play wasn’t even close I’m honestly surprised it’s even being talked about.

This feels like it’s turned into one of those Mandela effects 🤣. There absolutely, unequivocally was not a timeout called by the bills right after the Kincaid play. people joked about the defensive timeout taken with 15 seconds left in the half (our only used first half timeout) but obviously you don’t have to preserve timeouts for your offense at that point lol and now I think people are misremembering it it wouldn’t even make sense to call a timeout to decide to challenge there, it was fourth down and you can just eat the delay penalty on the punt

Are y’all talking about the first half Kincaid sideline toe tap bobble at like 3:30 ish? There was no timeout taken right after idk where this is coming from. Our first timeout was used with 15 seconds left in the half after our offense got the ball back with three timeouts (which is why you don’t challenge the Kincaid play),punted, and then the Texans had the ball do some people mean another play and are just saying the Kincaid play by accident 😂. I am immensely confused. I literally watched it twice now lol it’s 4th down right after and the punt team came out with zero delay and punted it.

How is it not about timeouts too? 😂. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here. Your offense got it back with 1 minute left in the half with three timeouts instead of two. That extra timeout could be huge down the stretch of a half. You don’t throw that opportunity away on a frivolous challenge…it’s moronic. the only leg the challenge people would have had to stand on is if our offense didn’t get another chance because we didn’t get the stop. Then having an extra timeout would’ve been strategically irrelevant

This is insane logic. You are trying to preserve 3 timeouts for your offense if you get the stop which is exactly what they did. That one timeout could be and often is the difference between no points and 3 or even 7 when you get the ball back with 1 minute remaining in a half that you’d be throwing away on a zero hope to be overturned challenge. the timeout he used came wayyyyy later when it was clear we wouldn’t get another offensive possession. There was 15 seconds left in the half for god sakes 🤣. This was one of the few things mcd got completely and objectively right in this one

He did not unless we are talking about two different plays somehow…I literally just watched it to confirm I’m not crazy. 3rd and 13 to Kincaid down the sideline towards the end of the first half that he toe tapped and bobbled. the gameday thread erupted in how can you not challenge, fire everyone. I distinctly remember because someone told me I was probably too dumb to tie my shoes for saying it would’ve been a wasted timeout and as I was furiously typing a response the thread locked 🤣 edit ohhhhh you jokers are talking about the defensive timeout later. I gave you way too much credit. Offense got it back with three timeouts which is why you don’t challenge there. I thought you were trying to say we called timeout to decide if we should challenge and could’ve just challenged right away (which would’ve been a good point if it was correct). Didn’t make any sense though as the next play was a punt you could just take a delay on some of the stuff that goes back and forth here is subjective but any coach in the nfl would tell you you’re objectively wrong here.

We must be talking about two different plays…I actually was fooled by the injury timeout in the gamecast haha we finished that possession with 3 timeouts.. so I’m not sure if we’re talking about two different plays or what, the 3rd and 13 to Kincaid had no timeout after. Punt team came right out and punted Haha I think this is sarcasm but it seems like a relevant time to point out that Houston had that fg shot at the end likely because they preserved all their timeouts…13 seconds was able to happen to us because kc preserved all their timeouts, and so on and so on…time outs are pretty much gold. So I agree with you (if this is sarcasm 🤣)

Are we talking about different plays? I believe we went into halftime with two unused timeouts and the timeout we used was before the Kincaid play. I will begrudgingly watch this sh*tshow again though to be sure 🤣

The announcer was an idiot and y’all are far too impressionable 🤣. Those plays are never ever overturned and we had a shot to get the ball back with limited time in the half. The average twobillsdrive gameday thread poster would make a horrendous football coach I don’t think the absolutely brain dead announcers are doing people any favors though lol I rolled my eyes hard at that commentary

This is my favorite example of gameday thread posters being out of their mind…would’ve unquestionably been a failed challenge then when our offense got the ball back with a minute left and one of the timeouts was wasted y’all would’ve complained about the challenge. we see those ball wobbling while going to the ground plays all the time around the nfl and they are never overturned

This is such a funny take. Dewayne Carter is playing better than worthy and Coleman who is what we spent the upgraded pick from the trade down on and Coleman really isn’t far behind what worthy has done by any means Early returns look like the chiefs got fleeced so far even if worthy ends up being good lol. They may have still gotten worthy without the trade up and they gifted us a guy that seems like the real deal and Coleman looks like he could be good as well edit: I really don’t understand what part of any of this is eye roll worthy (no pun intended 😂) we weren’t taking worthy clearly, is everyone sure the niners were or something? I don’t think you ‘settle’ for pearsall if you wanted worthy…they are two different players. And the niners didn’t have an immediate glaring wr need anyway so it’s not like they had to pull the trigger on the best available wr there. I think veach got spooked and ended up handing the bills a pick upgrade when he didn’t need to and that pick upgrade player is lookin good. So even if worthy is good and Coleman is ok you still handed the bills a good player very likely

The trade comparison doesn’t make a lick of sense…Diggs was actively unhappy with his situation and his head wasn’t in it. Eventually we were going to be paying a premium for an indifferent wr who was leaving in free agency and ripped the bandaid off in a year where we had some other bad contracts on the books anyway and he still had some trade value we’ll never know of course but I’m sure veach would’ve handled the situation the same way if tyreek started causing issues Play hard for 1 more year and we’ll take a big dead money hit the next year because he’s under contract for more than 1 additional year? I really don’t get that at all The ‘oblige’ part is exactly what we did 🤣 we just picked a year where we were a bit behind the 8 ball already anyway to eat it all

16…haven’t rewatched anything but he got a decent amount of snaps

Neither of those teams had a disgruntled wr that was at the very least mentally checked out. It’s apples and oranges. The tyreek trade got rolling because their agent bluffed trying to drive his price up for kc 😂 he didn’t want to leave at all the jets are 2-3 and losing close games while a good player they traded for refuses to show up which is the danger you run when trying to placate unhappy, disruptive players. gotta know when to get what you can for a guy that doesn’t like his situation and move on or not take it on in the first place. Bills got some great years out of Diggs but he clearly wasn’t happy and it was time to move on before he leaves as a free agent and you get nothing or he tanks his trade value I am thankful some of y’all aren’t running this team lol

This whole offensive head coach thing is my new favorite thing on these boards haha like there isn’t a long list of offensive head coaches that have been held back by bad defenses and that the chiefs don’t win with defense all the time due to great defensive coaching. there’s literally an apparently genius level offensive mind that can’t really get to the next level because of the defense in our own division 😂. And his mentor Kyle Shanahan is apparently an even better offensive wizard and can’t beat the chiefs either. literally what sets the chiefs apart in a league with several great offenses is that playoff defense always makes the huge play when they need it

Did they eat a lot of dead money in that trade? That’s what’s making it a ‘mini rebuild’ in our case. Just the fact that they traded a great wr also doesn’t mean much I can’t find the contract specifics because the internet is all chiefs dolphins trade predictions for this year 😂

Things should be toughest early then get better so I’m curious how it plays out. There’s a lot of new pieces getting acclimated and the schedule was pretty tough early i don’t even know who’s a bad team yet…the cardinals are the bills loss away from leading their division, Miami with tua is a pretty tough out and we handled them well while he was in, jags have a bad record but have been competitive in all games but ours, ravens beat our a** that’s for sure 🤣, then Texans came down to the wire

Can’t blame him for the screens in this most recent game…the blocking was horrid in a situation where a screen should’ve worked numerous times I think he tends to let things snowball when he has to watch the defense get marched on a few times and he starts pressing a bit then sprinkle in a few drops/pressure and he starts pressing even more. it’s not really unique to him, Rodgers took a couple sacks that affected him so much that he wasn’t even stepping into throws even with time in the jets game this week. Eventually he settled down a bit but the damage was done (in both cases). Once they start losing faith in the oline qbs start taking matters into their own hands and bailing clean pockets etc not expecting them to hold up

If the pro diggs crowd was giving Diggs credit for drawing defensive attention despite not having flashy stats down the stretch last year, Kincaid should get the same treatment imo. He gets a lot of attention that is probably helping guys like hollins get comically wide open and we still can’t make the play for various reasons 🤣

Idk Allen’s entire career has a couple of games like this per year when teams can bring heat and he gets uncomfortable and presses and starts missing throws…sometimes the defense is stout enough where we have a shot late and we win it anyway (this game was pretty close to that) so they don’t stand out as much. Sometimes it’s an all around stinker that everyone remembers. he may have been injured against Baltimore but idk that it led to unexpected bad play the next week

Yea I normally entirely agree with these but this game was a little more bullish on the oline than I was…plenty of opportunities for josh to win it regardless though. of course way more work went into this analysis than what I did though 🤣. So I could be entirely wrong haha

I honestly think they might now…the ravens game felt like we had so many holes it wasn’t even worth blowing the picks on a trade for a wr but I think the defense might lock it down once taron comes back with how Carter and Solomon are tracking edit: might trade for a wr I mean 😄. Not make a playoff run without adding a wr I just don’t really get this take…throughout his career when he’s had to pick up the oline and average wr play he’s had a handful of terrible games. He’s got some awful games on the resume and im not even sure this is close to his worst unless you’re specifically looking at completion percentage. This isn’t Brady specific