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Wasn’t a jets safety pretty much Josh’s leading receiver in New Jersey last year 😂

I think if ulbricht was head coach and had a competent DC in there it couldn’t be worse than Saleh, but now that he has head coaching responsibilities on top of his normal job things absolutely could get worse. They took the one guy doing his job and filled his plate with other stuff and replaced a terrible play caller with a terrible play caller. I mean we’ll see for sure…but I think they just torpedoed any possible chance of Rodgers doing anything in probably 50% of his remaining seasons also I doubt the players took it super well I get that it was a long shot that Saleh does anything meaningful this year but they went from long shot to no shot imo.

I think they were facing a full on mutiny from players probably thinking ‘yea Saleh isn’t successful but how did this firing fix anything. Were still in this and you quit on us’ so they pretty much had to do something may or may not involve rodgers. When woody and Aaron are involved really anything is possible haha woody might’ve just woken up in a bad mood…I heard some people saying that woody had friends at that London game and called it a must win

I was poking around the nfl reddit and fans with familiarity with downing at OC seem to think he is even worse than Hackett 🤣. He had a short stint at OC for the titans and the raiders a few years before that. Hardly ever held on to a multi year OC gig in a 20 year career that’s a bit of a red flag

There’s just no way there’s players involved from us. 2nd and 5th is already more than beane would likely offer, and if we’re already offering those picks then the players have to be so inconsequential that they’d mean nothing to LA anyway. They’re much more valuable to us because they know our playbook and can come in in a pinch due to injury and would just be wasted roster space for LA. It just doesn’t make sense that that was our offer

How many mid season player for player trades even are there in all of the nfl? Lol. I can’t think of any offhand I don’t know why you’d even send players to la in this situation it makes no sense

I can see it, but on the flip side it’s almost impossible to know that the alternative is going to be better and they’re basically back to square 1 once Rodgers retires in 1-2 years. I would’ve rolled with Saleh for this year at least personally, mostly because you’re dumping a bunch of extra responsibility on top of ulbricht who was doing his thing well.

Haha I bet they probably could honestly 😂. Could be just me but it seems like teams are being much more cautious with injuries the last few years. I guess you kind of have that luxury early in a season when no one is really gonna run away with the division

This is a pretty interesting thought experiment from a team perspective (unless you’re guaranteed the Super Bowl of course 🤣). Let’s say you were the Super Bowl year rams and someone told you ‘if you make all these moves you’ve got a 50/50 shot at the superbowl but you will not be realistically competitive for 3 years after that and it is a complete unknown past then. Do you do it? even if you’re the best roster by a decent margin it’s still really tough getting through a single elimination playoff structure…its just so high variance

There’s no way beane would offer two picks and two players in this situation even if the players were inconsequential. An inconsequential player knows the playbook at least and can get forced into playing due to injury you just never know…he’d never do that midseason. if we don’t end up getting Adams I bet Beane offered a second and didn’t go much beyond that

Yea it definitely wasn’t a deep rooted thing haha and it had nothing to do with how the fans treat their own team

It wasn’t a game he played in…they asked him and st brown who the worst fan base is and adams said bills because of snowballs essentially. It must’ve been a current ish event at the time. Not sure when that podcast aired. Probably pretty close to the dolphins game

For context he was butthurt over the snowball throwing specifically which I guarantee you happened in GB plenty of times while he played there lol I doubt he even remembers saying that

Oh yea I’m not trying to say he doesn’t…maybe going the opposite way with it will illustrate the point better. theres games where we see josh make some mistakes but he’s overall really good and chris simms will be like look at these four plays he’s the best player in football hands down 😂. It’s just better tv that way. Doesn’t mean that Simms can’t run circles around all of us in film analysis he’s just gotta wear that tv personality hat too and it gets pretty grating for me at times even when he’s talking josh up lol florio has that limitation also and knows way less so he’s much worse I don’t think it’s ever as bad or as good as the several plays they pick for analysis makes it look

I wouldn’t say spoiled at all but we do tend to overreact to regular season losses which is a different thing lol

If it was more reasonable of an offer I might believe the no rumor haha but player for player type trades midseason are pretty rare to begin with and on top of that that’s giving up a ton. I don’t think beane would ever offer that

There’s no way that’s true 🤣

Yea I just made a more detailed post about it responding to someone else haha I think if he could devote more time on air to each game it would be different, but it’s just the handful of plays that support their narrative and then the narrative. They are tv personalities too and the narratives are what sells. He knows more about football than I can learn in 5 lifetimes for sure 😂 That’s not really what I was trying to say haha but I mostly agree with you overall. I think they get caught up pushing a narrative on air sometimes cuz it’s good tv.

I definitely don’t full disagree with this by any means but I feel like in the interest of time they don’t tell you the full story and will just show you only what proves their overall narrative and then us as fans overly panic. im sure if simms could sit us all down for an hour and go through a game it would be really informative and the plays that maybe go against his overall game judgement would be analyzed too

Haha I was posting about how simms is an idiot at the same time but florio is absolutely worse 🤣

I’ve always found Simms to be a dolt even when he had his brief bromance with Josh lol

Yea that last part I think pretty much every qb would do…Rodgers did much the same in that Vikings game earlier in the day. He doesn’t have the athletic ability so he ended up throwing balls off his back foot rather than scrambling around but it’s theoretically the same situation

A screen is never ever as open as you are describing lol haven’t watched the plays yet but I think you are probably misdiagnosing some things that was likely a decoy route to hit a deep shot that Houston would’ve rallied to to make the tackle for a minimal gain if we threw the dumpoff seems like we came into it knowing Texans would flood the middle, shorter stuff and had some interesting plays queued up to take advantage. We just missed them all for various reasons…Josh being one of them. It was mostly a slog but the plays were there to win that one criticizing the audible to the deep hollins play/the decision to throw to hollins there was absurd. Josh knew the double move would hit and was 100% correct. Hard to say if it was a missed throw or he was expecting something else as the defender was inside and the ball went outside, but the decision making was spot on

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills on this one haha I legitimately have no idea if this is a pro or anti josh post I’m about to make but he has several games like this one per year often with even better surrounding talent than he has now. anyone being like whoaaa where did this come from is very strange to me. Yea he was bad but he bounces back from games like this literally every season. I guess this is a pro and anti josh post 😂

Idk how wr grades work but there were a lot of gray area plays where they probably put all the blame on josh and none on Mack when it should’ve been pretty even also pff really has no method of grading ‘josh expected Mack to route adjust/find a soft spot so he threw it to that spot and it looked like an inaccurate throw’ type plays. They’re not at practice/in the huddle with these guys