Generic_Bills_Fan

I think a lot of that has to do with what the giants were able to do to them...daniel jones had just about 100 yards rushing. They have given up 400+ yards/game which is 25th in the league.

I dont think anyone would argue that but if they passed a little less and rushed the ball 20 more times for an average of 3ypc or less against that steelers front 7...how balanced really is that? We'd all be screaming STOP RUNNING THE BALL at the TV. I can see what we were going for week 1 by trying to create as many mismatches as possible cuz their secondary only has two very good dbs but that pass rush gave Josh a case of the happy feet.

NYC is pretty much broke after covid...Tons of people moved away and they are begging people to come back.

Flores put a nice defensive game plan together finally...it took him like 5 tries. He was stubbornly running a scheme that josh allen excels against up until last Sunday. Of course our front 7 absolutely annihilated them the game Flores finally got his defense right lol Tua was getting sacked 10+ times without a doubt. I thought brissett actually showed some flashes considering we were in the backfield all game long

Yea it seems like one of those too good to be true bets to me lol logically what you did makes sense though and you got in before the line move so you're ahead of the game. Yea the defense is the gamechanger...last years bills I'd take wsh +9.5 because I don't think we'd give their qb who's last name I can't spell properly much trouble 🤣 and we'd probably win by less than 7 in some kind of shootout. This years offense is not firing on all cylinders yet but a 13-3 win and the bills cover lol

Na I think daboll kind of outsmarted himself week 1 trying to create mismatches with the steelers dbs rather than running the football into the brick wall front 7 of the pit defense and Josh never got comfortable. Hes got both eyes on the offensive line cuz he has no confidence in those guys and he's had happy feet the last couple games...happened last season at times too. Last years form included games like that...TEN absolutely embarrassed us he was horrible that game. He doesn't think he has time to set his feet cuz he's getting hit/evading pressure all game long when teams aren't even blitzing. Better qbs have had far worse games under those circumstances than the last two josh has had

Coaches are so freaking stubborn...I love when they talk about belichick tailoring game plans to the individual opponent as some earth shattering concept during the broadcast lol most coaches just try to force what they like to do down the other teams throat. I think he took the hint finally half time at the Miami game that going through progressions with 3 deep routes when your offensive line is struggling probably isn't the best way to go lol

I still cannot believe Flores finally cooked up a decent defensive game plan and still got absolutely blown out against us...so weird to not see them blitzing and playing man all game lol Get to 4-1 with a win over kc then we'll talk lol AFC west and North are getting very competitive though so for the second time in a long time looks like we are the ones in an unfairly easy division 🤣 nothing against NE though they will still be a tough out

Agreed...and none of this is new. He has always struggled even with well blocked routine throws in games where teams have been dropping 7 into coverage and getting home with a 4 man rush. People are acting like this is something new since he signed his contract. I dont mean it as an excuse since it's something he can improve on himself but in games where we're a little more stout up front I think you'll see the same offense as last year or a better one I dont think so...he has improved over last season in games where his oline can't block 4 guys...we just had two such games in a row to start the season rather than tucked somewhere in the middle so we're all panicking 🤣 seems like daboll at least adjusted the playcalling halfway through the dolphins game to compensate...the man is as stubborn as an ox

Whenever hes reasonably covered I don't think I've ever seen him not push off lol I guess you get some special privileges playing with Brady they had a nice pushoff victory week 1 🤣

Kind of a semantics thing but I'd say thats more being worried about the team than mac jones himself. He looks like he is the type of QB they need to be competitive with the defense they have but its impossible to say at this point if hes the 'i can put the team on my back and win' guy. i think cam was a tougher matchup for us last year than mac is going to be this year but overall mac is already a better qb than cam is if that makes any sense lol

i guess it hasnt fully sunk in that we could have a good defense lol its very easy to cover 9.5 when youre giving up 10 points or less. not to mention daniel jones absolutely burned that defense running the football.

Dline maybe but theyre iffy at every linebacker position and average in the secondary which is very different than the PIT or MIA defensive situation. Should be roastable over the middle....I hope? Lol

Haha I didn't really make it clear enough 🤣 I agree with a lot of what you said but I dont think it has anything to do with his contract/him trying to hard. He just historically hasn't been good at the looks the defenses the first two weeks have been able to throw at us personell wise but really nobody is. Miamis defense is really not a great matchup for us but Brian Flores has put together laughable game plans up until Sunday that played right into Josh's strengths. We really could be seeing a better josh allen than last year he normally absolutely melts down in games like that like the chiefs game and the titans game last season

Easy to say until you see what a JAG wouldve done that game lol coverage was tight...rush was coming quick even when we kept extra blockers in. 2019 Allen throws 3+ picks that game...Peterman throws 12 picks that game 🤣 I love how they sold the 'bringing in fitzpatrick as the closer at qb' as not being based on their low confidence in Tua loll I don't think Flores is a good coach...he did a lot with minimal talent but he hasn't done much more with a good amount of talent.

I think 2020 josh looked much worse against a tough 4 man rush and the rest of the d in coverage and were already seeing a better josh than last year...people just don't realize it because they only care about stats and a qb is never allowed to miss an open receiver even though that consistently happens league wide especially early in the season lol the amount of teams that can pull that off personnel wise are slim and we just happened to face two of them in a row

I agree with a lot of that but he has always done those things in the situations he has found himself in this season and he has been smarter with the football...that's literally my point 🤣 our pass blocking was solid for a lot of last season and it will likely be solid for a lot of this season but he hasn't had those games yet. We got absolutely spanked in games where we got whooped by 4 man rushes last season and this season we could be a blocked punt away from 2-0 against two solid teams because he's managed the games pretty well rather than melting down trying to carry the team. it's unknowable at this point but he could easily be ahead of last season and as a complete football team we could be considerably ahead of last season

Lolll and they beat a team that looks like it's on pace to be absolutely atrocious Didn't he punt though? Nobody would've questioned going for it on 4th and 2 idk what yard line he punted from but it's likely he made the punt more difficult

What qb has ever lit up the scoreboard when the defense could pressure him with 4 guys...not even the mighty 07 pats offense could do it...nor the chiefs offense last year. The dude has been in an extremely difficult situation the first two weeks and he's played ok. Idk how we can compare that to a season of games he played where most were in ideal circumstances last year and say hes regressed... its nuts. It's not his fault the offense couldn't play the jets week 1 this season

His overall season stats last season are completely irrelevant...how did he do in games when he could get pressured by 4 rushers? He was pretty dreadful...every qb is. And in this season he's been mediocre.

Did he not miss open receivers with time last year? Lol you've gotta keep one eye on your guys blocking at all times it is so much harder to get into a rhythm when your OL can get whooped at any time even with numbers and even the rare times you get good pass protection. You've gotta be able to trust those guys up front and he just doesn't...it is not even close to puzzling what is happening

I dont see how you can say that two games in when the offensive line has been a sieve. Josh last year would've struggled just the same or more in these types of games. Kc and ten absolutely throttled him in the regular season last year

This is a great point...people are comparing our start to last season stat wise and to me that's not really the best way to do it. The jets were absolutely atrocious week 1 last year and I would argue our offense was awful in that game regardless of what the stats say...we should've won that game by 100. His performance against the steelers was easily better than that but people only remember the L Loll he is though and he is likely playing even better...I know we normally dunk on Miami but they are a fringe top 5 defense talent wise and so is pit. There was no nyj to beat up on early in the season this year. Think about how he played against ten and kc during the regular season last year...he's facing defenses even better than that in the weeks of the season where offenses notoriously look a little sloppy. Flores has now seen Josh two more times since last season and he's got great players all over that defense

I still think this is overblown...Josh played the steelers just about the same the last two years and the bills offense made some adjustments at halftime and stopped looking for big chunk plays downfield against the dolphins and he drastically improved. Oline is not holding up in 4 man rush situations it's not like he's missing protection shifts in exotic blitzes or anything. If we played the chiefs/titans back to back the first two weeks last year we'd be talking about how terrible allen is then too lol

Our receivers were riddled with injuries the entire playoffs last season...I cringe every time someone tries to include those games in some kind of trend. We've gotta clean up the oline and holding penalties and if he still struggles then we can start to panic