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Mac Jones vs Zach Wilson
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to ChronicAndKnuckles's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I get the vibe that belichick really wanted fields and is probably disappointed. Cam as a bridge qb to Mac Jones just doesn't make sense to me they are polar opposites -
Mac Jones vs Zach Wilson
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to ChronicAndKnuckles's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Rodgers was groomed in a good situation. Zach wilson is getting thrown to the wolves on a team with holes all over the place that couldve hit home runs at a ton of other positions with the number 2 overall pick. We did something similar with Josh I feel like but Josh works so hard on his game in the offseason and I just dont get that same vibe from Wilson. Thats based on nothing though so maybe he'll prove me wrong lol -
Its kind of hard to evaluate our defensive line since the gameplan against us is to get rid of the ball as soon as possible... apparently we were 2nd in the league in pass rush win rate somehow lol we definitely do not have an elite player on the defensive line though that teams have to pay extra attention to that is for sure The talent around him on the texans defense has pretty much completely evaporated so its tough to analyze him with a stat sheet alone...teams could probably triple watt and be fine going one on one with everyone else lol This comment wins no matter what side of this anybody is on 🤣
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The Patrick Mahomes Super Bowl Debate
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to JohnNord's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Did you have the game on mute and avoid all football related media this season? Lol They were talking about how he could win more super bowls than brady while being destroyed....by tom brady 🤣 mahomes did not play anywhere near his best in the super bowl and i guarantee you he would tell you the same thing if you asked him. His game was eerily similar to Josh's against the chiefs...oline can't block so you try to do too much yourself and get mixed results. For every stunningly athletic play there is an equally headscratching bad sack/bad read -
I think this supposed 'decline in production' is a direct result of who he was playing with...name one other texans defensive linemen lol I cant...watt was probably doubled all season
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The Patrick Mahomes Super Bowl Debate
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to JohnNord's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Right thats what I was getting to lol I guess he's gonna get an even better chance to prove he can carry the team by himself when he loses a few weapons. Im certainly not saying he's incapable he's just never really had to. That's why that super bowl was so eye opening to me its like they had never seen adversity before and they completely collapsed from top to bottom. Yea the offensive line was bad but they either did nothing to help mahomes out or he did nothing to help himself I cant tell which -
The Patrick Mahomes Super Bowl Debate
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to JohnNord's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
To clarify i wouldnt say I blame him for the loss at all I just think the supposed greatest quarterback in the history of football couldve done a better job keeping them in the game. He showed some impressive athleticism but he was straight up panicking and not even giving plays a chance late in that game...he was takin snaps and immediately running 20 yards backwards like people did with Michael Vick in the old madden games 🤣 maybe Andy Reid wasn't calling plays to alleviate the pass blocking issue and its all on him...its tough to tell from just seeing the broadcast angle of the game. -
The Patrick Mahomes Super Bowl Debate
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to JohnNord's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
When did we start giving qbs credit for incomplete passes lol I have honestly never seen anything like this...yea he lobbed up some on target-ish passes that were frequently tipped by bucs defenders or his receivers took shots or gave up on the play because they didn't think they were getting the ball. When the game mattered every completed pass I can remember was to a comically wide open travis kelce...mahomes did what we all accuse josh allen of and he did it the entire game start to finish...likely because he's never been in that situation before -
The Patrick Mahomes Super Bowl Debate
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to JohnNord's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I dont mean to take away from mahomes but its pretty rare a first or second year qb gets dropped into a lineup who's already in their super bowl window...im not sure he deserves all the credit for their super bowl appearances That is a fact for sure but its tough to tell how much of that pressure was avoidable by looking to shorter routes/check downs. Yea his offensive line played bad but if you keep taking 30 step drops and getting sacked trying to throw bombs all over the field thats definitely on you too lol -
They hardly blitzed at all lol it was the same soft defense...in fact I'm willing to bet they blitzed far less than the regular season meeting. Chiefs just couldn't provide mahomes with enough time to run the plays they like to run and andy Reid did not at all adjust. Idk what is going on here do people see pressure and assume blitz? I think they blitzed 5 times max. He literally changed almost nothing from their first meeting 🤣 Ah just saw you posted the same thing haha people are crowning Bowles and ripping our coaching staff a new one and Bowles literally swiped our game plan...it is comical 🤣 being aggressive is what gets you demolished against kc and blitzing more wouldve worked against the bucs Sunday night. Listen to all the kc players interviews where they talk about how hard it is for them to make plays with 2 defenders over the top all night. Bucs got a nice gift with fisher being injured where by the second half there wasn't even enough time for kelce to find holes in the zone on short routes...if you remember correctly kelce was absolutely torching them in the first half
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Lol not 'rocket science' ...thats exactly what I'm saying. The bucs installed the same vanilla, soft 2 high safety coverage look as us and we are talking like Bowles is some kind of legendary coach and our coaching staff is hopeless and should all be fired 🤣 kelce got whatever he wanted underneath against the bucs the dude had like 5+ catches for 100 yards at halftime and was consistently wide open. The bucs had some help with being able to attack a practice squad level player on the chiefs offensive line and the chiefs oline was absolutely gassed in the second half when they needed to work the ball deep down the field to get back in the game. We can't directly compare our teams efforts to the bucs just because we both played the same team. Losing fisher completely sunk them and their coaching staff made 0 adjustments honestly I feel much better about the bills coaching staff after seeing that game not worse. If we had four quarters against the fisher-less chiefs i dont think we wouldve looked as dominant as the bucs but we wouldve gotten pretty consistent pressure. They had to shuffle players all over the place
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Yea that I wouldnt disagree with our dline was very mediocre this year despite the heavy investment ...but gameplan wise we were spot on and quite often we are the team providing the blueprint on how to beat these top teams which is why we keep hearing about Leslie Frazier getting head coaching looks. Obviously watching the chiefs complete an eight yard pass almost every play was frustrating but if we went to some blitz happy press man coverage we likely get beat even worse by the chiefs
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Am I crazy? Haha I watched the game last night and saw the exact same 'soft defense' that we played... the bucs just butchered them with a 4 man rush because the chiefs have no oline depth. I think seeing how much pressure the bucs were getting is skewing peoples perception. they hardly blitzed at all and they gave kelce a ton of underneath stuff...the guy was wide open the entire first half. They knew that if the chiefs had to work for each first down eventually they were gonna get home for a huge sack. We trusted our guys to do the same and just got outplayed...need to add a piece or two to the dline
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Lol the genius Todd Bowles defensive game plan that stopped the mighty chiefs was literally Frazier's gameplan 🤣 it was a very soft cover 2 and let your front four go out and make plays. Their guys just got home and ours didn't...they had a huge assist from us injuring fisher. Im sure we go out and draft/sign some pass rushers and let some other pieces go. Im sure we expected more out of the guys we signed and that is the area that is the primary offseason focus
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The great game plan by Bowles was literally a Frazier gameplan lol im just so baffled that im hearing about how brilliant Bowles was last night he just let his front 4 go out and play. What did they blitz like twice? They played with two high safeties all game. Daboll needs another receiver or a reliable tight end if he's gonna run the offense he likes brown and davis got single covered easily with some holding assistance of course lol then they could just bring defensive backs on blitzes from all over the field. Either that or rework the entire offensive line to get more proficient at running the football which will be difficult to do because we have so many holes on defense
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Would the Bills have beaten the Bucs?
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to QB Bills's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Yea I think offensive coordinators are too stubborn in general...daboll made adjustments in that chiefs game it was just too late. I feel like after halftime we ripped off a few nice runs and went to a more intermediate passing game until we went down 3 scores and really couldn't anymore. We like to max protect and run those crossing routes and when the dbs are being handsy theres just not that many options to make a play. The chiefs looked like they went down without making any adjustments last night and they just let mahomes get absolutely abused. The dude was taking 47 step drops after awhile lol -
Would the Bills have beaten the Bucs?
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to QB Bills's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Loll the bucs have looked bad frequently this whole well the chiefs beat us and they beat the chiefs so they would've killed us argument may or may not be valid. I guess we'll have a chance to prove it next year. I feel a lot better about this supposed chiefs dynasty never materializing last night was an absolute failure from top to bottom from them. They have been skating by on raw talent alone and the bucs came in and punched them in the mouth and andy Reid just completely imploded. I feel bad for mahomes though they did not help him out at all. They couldve hung around in that game and maybe given themselves a chance but they coached themselves right out of the game -
Would the Bills have beaten the Bucs?
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to QB Bills's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Josh took a couple big sacks that were probably avoidable in hindsight but daboll made a lot of adjustments at halftime moving to a more short to intermediate passing game and getting yeldon involved...the chiefs just let mahomes get butchered all night. Also Andy Reid called the worst timeout in history lol not to mention we max protect a lot by design...the chiefs were forced into that situation which really eliminates 75% of their playbook. Allowing defensive holding is absolutely devastating to our offense so if thats going to continue in the playoffs going forward we will have to make some changes -
Would the Bills have beaten the Bucs?
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to QB Bills's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Na not with chiefs dbs allowed to just dry hump us all over the field 🤣 they could get real creative against us pass rush wise because they were just single covering everyone across the board. As much as im sick of brady winning those flags felt like poetic justice last night ...im sure 9ers fans would agree since they lost the super bowl because the chiefs were allowed to neutralize the strength of their team with offensive holding lol The chiefs were in their own version of the 'omg we have to start Brian winters' scenario 🤣 it is not the same chiefs team we faced and the rules were enforced in a completely different way. The bucs hardly blitzed at all last night they were getting home with 4. The chiefs blitzed us a lot because their secondary didn't need help...its two completely different games that can't be compared in the way were trying to. Its surreal honestly listening to this Bowles is a genius commentary...it was a Leslie frazier-esque soft zone game plan he was just playing against scrubs on the oline ...Im not saying we wouldve won i think the bucs offense wouldve given us fits but I think our offensive line wouldve held up considerably better and we wouldve provided a much more entertaining game -
Would the Bills have beaten the Bucs?
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to QB Bills's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
A lot of the chiefs sacks were coverage sacks likely due to their very liberal interpretation of the defensive holding rules 🤣 also were stronger at tackle than the chiefs. I think Josh is better than mahomes at going through his progressions while under duress while mahomes seemed like he was giving up right when the ball was snapped. If we had four quarters against the chiefs without Eric fisher I bet we wouldve put a lot more pressure on mahomes as well. Their oline was absolutely gassed by the second half. If the officials in the afc championship called the game the same way the super bowl was called we probably would've gotten one of those 55-52 type shootouts everyone loves its hard to compare two teams that didn't play eachother based on mutual results with another team because there's just so many variables