Generic_Bills_Fan

An underthrow could be an absolute disaster though too depending on how the DB has it played...an overthrow is much safer usually on a deep ball. I think most of that was not having the game reps with sanders yet...Josh probably got the ball where he wanted it

I think daboll is the punching bag because of the horrible 4th down call. Offense was sloppy all game...the plays were there...the scheme was working fine. I've probably said this 14 times in this thread because I've lost track of what threads I'm respond to 🤣 but the chiefs defensive 'performance' in the afc championship anz the game earlier in the year was nonsense. No idea why the refs were fine with it that week and not having it in the super bowl but reverse those two officiating crews and maybe we win a shootout. Probably not cuz our defense was dreadful but you never know

Haha I mean I'm sure it effects their analytics on a 50+ yard fg...going for a fg and missing is just as bad as throwing it into double coverage on 4th and 8 because you think you have a free play 🤣 it's just so easy for us to criticize with the power of hindsight...If they kicked the fg and missed we'd all be saying they should've gone for it lol

They were clearly Offside...do qbs usually wait to see the flag come out before they throw it deep in situations like that? I'm not sure

Slants are manbeaters and teams do not play man against us except for the dolphins who we have roasted every time haha chiefs did too but they played suspiciously good man coverage 🤣

How bad was the wind...that was into the wind I think

Chiefs seemed like a lot of it was holding the ball waiting for someone to come open but today was def quick pressure. I think a lot of that chiefs game was our receivers playing hurt/ the chiefs getting away with tons of defensive holding. Diggs usually eats man defensive alive but he was playing with a tofb oblique. Today seemed like pit was playing mostly zone Totally agree...I think the teams that give Josh allen trouble either play man and hold our wrs like crazy and get away with it or play zone and give josh some of the check downs and take away the deep crossers and hope he waits too long for someone to come open.

I think we're sleeping on how much strain a mobile qb puts on a defense...mac could be a significantly more accurate passer and still a downgrade...not saying this is true as it's way too early to tell just that it's possible I think this whole this team makes us sad so we're gonna try way harder to beat them is not a real thing 🤣 shouldn't our team be just as hungry for a win after blowing our home opener?

What do called running plays do for an offense against the best front 7 in football? Then you've got 2nd and 3rd and longs against a tough pass rush

Allen was undefeated against top 5 defenses last year I'm pretty sure they said before the game haha our offensive is so far from one dimensional that I think a DC preparing a gameplan against us would laugh pretty hard reading these threads...y'all have a very old school definition for what constitutes a running play I finally found a take I can agree with 🤣 I think we tried to connect on deep passes too many times when short gains were there

I think so too and to be fair we have executed this successfully in recent history lol. Someone whiffed badly on a block though

Helaire averaged 3.1 ypc...they were not super effective running the football. That number is likely even lower if they played against the same defense we did

Daboll gets a lot of blame for the games where the offense just doesn't execute in my opinion. 4wr sets when your qb can run put a ton of pressure on the defense which is why you're seeing that setup get more and more popular around the league. If you're under center in run heavy formations that makes your offense less dynamic...run vs pass is a very old school oversimplification that really only the fans make lol

The league is trending pretty hard away from this...a lot of runs go for no gain or a few yards and you still put your qb in a situation where he's gotta make a big play. I think cams threat to run made their run game a little more dynamic and their run game will struggle a little more now with Mac despite him being the better passer

Probably too early to tell...I dont think we were running 20+ times into the steelers front 7 regardless of if we have improved running the football or not. We'd all be here talking about how being too conservative in the second half lost us the game if we ran more haha

It kind of works for him though because Claypool is an animal and would probably prefer a ball like that...our dbs were in position a lot of times and their wrs just went up and got it

Yea a screen getting blown up in the backfield is pretty much the end of the series

Guess we'll see how it goes I will happily admit if I'm wrong... but when I hear dead arm I think of Peyton manning towards the end of his career and Ben is in much better shape than that

Lol its tough to assign blame in a loss like that...plenty of drops...some missed throws. Daboll could've called a decent game and we really wouldn't know. We could've ran the ball more and gotten absolutely stuffed...we'll need more games to tell more but the first couple weeks are pretty prone to flukes/rust

Theres a pretty big difference between throws balls erratically that are in the air for 20+ yards and the geriatric patient you're describing though lol I know a certain qb with an absolute cannon that has been known to do that as well 🤣

They held all game and it wasn't called for whatever reason...maybe they're better at holding than we are 🤣

Maybe you've been watching josh allen too much 🤣 Ben has always been slow hes just tough to tackle. I'm not sure where dead arm is coming from hes got big physical receivers that you want to throw jump balls to especially in tight coverage.

Na we whiffed badly on blocks...hb pass could've been there I have to check that one again

Better than the chiefs super bowl playcalling 🤣 the plays were there we just didn't execute...those games happen. I'm all for judging the 4th down gadget plays that didn't work but that could come down to execution too

Can someone please tell me how Ben is now broken down 🤣 I keep seeing that and there is 0 evidence of that. Is it because he lobs passes and hits receivers in stride? I do understand what a dominant run game can do for your qb but you don't understand how much the current offensive scheme is helping our qb just because he has a mediocre game every now and then. Also how high are you DL standards for a year that is cap reduced lol they took the run away all game...all season last year we gave away 5 yard runs for free