Generic_Bills_Fan

Lolll and they beat a team that looks like it's on pace to be absolutely atrocious Didn't he punt though? Nobody would've questioned going for it on 4th and 2 idk what yard line he punted from but it's likely he made the punt more difficult

What qb has ever lit up the scoreboard when the defense could pressure him with 4 guys...not even the mighty 07 pats offense could do it...nor the chiefs offense last year. The dude has been in an extremely difficult situation the first two weeks and he's played ok. Idk how we can compare that to a season of games he played where most were in ideal circumstances last year and say hes regressed... its nuts. It's not his fault the offense couldn't play the jets week 1 this season

His overall season stats last season are completely irrelevant...how did he do in games when he could get pressured by 4 rushers? He was pretty dreadful...every qb is. And in this season he's been mediocre.

Did he not miss open receivers with time last year? Lol you've gotta keep one eye on your guys blocking at all times it is so much harder to get into a rhythm when your OL can get whooped at any time even with numbers and even the rare times you get good pass protection. You've gotta be able to trust those guys up front and he just doesn't...it is not even close to puzzling what is happening

I dont see how you can say that two games in when the offensive line has been a sieve. Josh last year would've struggled just the same or more in these types of games. Kc and ten absolutely throttled him in the regular season last year

This is a great point...people are comparing our start to last season stat wise and to me that's not really the best way to do it. The jets were absolutely atrocious week 1 last year and I would argue our offense was awful in that game regardless of what the stats say...we should've won that game by 100. His performance against the steelers was easily better than that but people only remember the L Loll he is though and he is likely playing even better...I know we normally dunk on Miami but they are a fringe top 5 defense talent wise and so is pit. There was no nyj to beat up on early in the season this year. Think about how he played against ten and kc during the regular season last year...he's facing defenses even better than that in the weeks of the season where offenses notoriously look a little sloppy. Flores has now seen Josh two more times since last season and he's got great players all over that defense

I still think this is overblown...Josh played the steelers just about the same the last two years and the bills offense made some adjustments at halftime and stopped looking for big chunk plays downfield against the dolphins and he drastically improved. Oline is not holding up in 4 man rush situations it's not like he's missing protection shifts in exotic blitzes or anything. If we played the chiefs/titans back to back the first two weeks last year we'd be talking about how terrible allen is then too lol

Our receivers were riddled with injuries the entire playoffs last season...I cringe every time someone tries to include those games in some kind of trend. We've gotta clean up the oline and holding penalties and if he still struggles then we can start to panic

Lol a fluke year? The dude moved the football with literally 0 help on a talentless roster his rookie year and made progress in year two

We like to run deep crosses down the field and our offensive line is playing like doo doo...trubisky wouldve gotten killed Chiefs game shouldn't count...our receivers were getting mugged and they were all horribly injured

Yea im in the camp of we would have gotten absolutely stuffed if we ran the ball when it mattered and that's why you saw a lot of gimmicky nonsense on 4th and short lol there is really not much in the playbook for any team when you are getting absolutely whooped by a 4 man rush I'm surprised we moved the ball the amount that we did...just couldn't hit on any of those short yardage plays and it's easy with the power of hindsight to say run the ball there

2018 josh allen throws 3 ints that game... he was completely fooled by the Steelers presnap alignment and his offensive line couldn't block anyone and he still made plays. I think today's game was the first evidence in a long time where Josh allen didn't have to win the game single handedly and could've afforded to take some of the open underneath stuff/checkdowns without trying to consistently force the ball downfield and he looks pretty silly for not doing so...I kind of got the opposite impression of this game than a lot of other people it sounds like lol. Looked like he had lots of checkdowns that he passed up thinking he could avoid a 4 man rush long enough to hit something deep and it just wasn't necessary

I'm interested in seeing the all22...my suspicion is the steelers masked some areas of the field they were vulnerable with their late shifting and allen had guys open all over the place underneath that he didn't even look at. I think qb user error was a lot of the reason for the 4wr and 5wr set performance lol I do think he fared much better than rookie allen wouldve though

I cant say a qb rollout wouldn't have worked but does anyone really have any confidence that we could execute an effective screen pass that game. It relies on a ton of blocking and it's not like the steelers were running any man blitzes.

Allen's gotta learn that sometimes less is more and you don't need to be looking downfield every play...not sure if the steelers defensive shuffling just before the snap was messing with that. Its impossible to blame him because he watched his defense get smoked pretty much every game last year and ironically in one of the games they shut down a great offense they gave up a hail mary TD to lose the game 🤣

I think Josh should have more confidence in the defense after this game at least... after looking at the tape he'll see that they couldve easily won this game if they took some of those underneath throws. I have rarely seen someone so thoroughly carry a team on his back as he did last year and it's probably tough to shake that mindset that you need big chunk plays every drive because your defense couldn't stop a college team.

Very true I think he has to be more willing to take those short gains...I will defend going 4 and 5 wide to the death when the steelers have two great dbs and a great front seven then a bunch of average dudes in the secondary after that though 🤣 I think daboll is taking some of the heat on this board that should be going towards allen because he called that horrifically executed hb pass on 4th down lol

Mahomes is great but they've got a pretty weak secondary that was suspiciously allowed to hold all year last year until the super bowl of course 🤣 they also have a razor thin amount of defensive depth since all their money is tied up on offense so any sort of defensive injury would be a disaster. I doubt all those guys make it through 17 games and we saw what could happen when you lose a guy in a position without much depth when the bucs smoked them in the super bowl

Yea he had a mediocre game which was not a good look after signing that big contract...its unfortunate he didn't get a layup week one lol im sure he's embarrassed. Brady is an absolute freak at getting his offensive into the right play to the point where its suspicious 🤣 so he has bad games but it's rarely due to getting fooled. Yea mahomes rarely has a bad game I think if we had a big time tight end target that was good at finding the holes in zone coverage like kelce josh would be even more successful on a consistent basis

I think it was players this time being rusty but I might be in the minority on that one 🤣 what team has gone undefeated and won the super bowl in the last 40 years? I'm gonna go through the previous super bowl winners but it usually feels like the best team in the regular season doesn't win it all to me lately but thats based on memory.

I'm not saying you're wrong for doing this but you picked a tough year to demand additional talent haha that salary cap crunch was tough. If we're in mid-season form losing to contenders I'm right there with ya...week 1 where we faced a tough defense throwing some alignment trick at us we haven't seen before that we outgained by over a hundred yards and won time of possession by a healthy margin against that mostly beat us because of a blocked punt and some ticky tack penalties could be just one of those flukey games

Yea I def get it...I think they threw something at josh he hasn't seen before and we almost beat it anyway but I could see how someone would see it as he can't beat a good defense and so on...its impossible to say because we've only played one game. If we look shaky against Miami I will be just as panicked lol because in the context of competing for the division that game is much more important. The team that played the best in the regular season doesnt even win the super bowl oftwn so there are definitely no awards for the best week 1 team lol Our dline was absolute garbage last year and every one of our wide receivers was not just injured but seriously injured lol I dont think depth applied to that...rousseau looked quite promising today and star should be back to plug up the run.... depth definitely cost the chiefs the super bowl that's for sure

I'm sure they will give things a hard look if we get rolled by someone in the playoffs or don't make it...daboll will likely be gone for sure if it happens in a similar way to today. If this was a mid/late season game I'd be more worried but the first couple weeks of the season are infamous for these type of games. This is a cap reduced year so it was tough to do any major overhauling via free agency for any team...I think we have improved more than the chiefs have but we will find out if it's enough Elite talent is better than depth in week one maybe...but you are likely to see several big time injuries to each team.. as the season goes on depth becomes more and more important

You're definitely not wrong if this turns into an issue long term but this really seemed like that 'everything going wrong' type of game where we normally get absolutely blown out and we had a chance to win it late. I know we're all sour about losing but even if the dline only showed up for a half that's a half more than they showed up for last season...they were historically awful last year and allen put the team on his back and took them all the way to the afc championship game with three seriously injured wrs I think he's earned some slack

That game felt kind of a flukey any given Sunday type game to me but if it turns into a pattern you probably see the offensive coordinator getting playcalling duties taken away or replaced to get a fresh set of eyes in there and some rebuilding on the offensive line this offseason since the cap is increasing g next year