Generic_Bills_Fan

I would still argue allen came into the league firing on all cylinders relative to the talent around him. Herbert and mahomes got dropped into fantastic situations because the chargers couldn't win a single close game and the chiefs were already a solid team drafting a qb that they could groom. Allen made Robert foster look like an all pro lol I can't think of anyone else that could do that. This whole narrative of he was bad and then worked hard to improve is pretty exaggerated in my opinion...he won like half his starts with an all time awful roster with receivers that led the league in drops and were last in the league in separation

Oh yea I just mean comparing qbs on completely different teams is tough...like if you plopped mahomes onto the bills roster who knows what you'd get. It's scary to think of what josh could do if we had someone like Travis kelce

I was gonna say the same thing... a lot of these teams that have beaten supposedly great teams have also barely held on against pretty mediocre teams as well. We have absolutely annihilated three teams in a row and the game we lost we controlled most of the game.

I dont see how brissett or heinicke count as backup qbs... they are likely both better than the guy they replaced. Davis mills sure that's a backup. Heinicke has been somewhere between solid and great every game in his career except for when we played them

Mahomes played one game in his career in a josh allen like situation where a 4 man rush was crushing his offensive line and he did not look confident nor calm lol

Our defense was a sieve last season outside of one nice performance against Baltimore and Josh allen carried the whole team lol

I'm still very suspicious of the chiefs defensive performance in the afc championship game lol they got away with a ton of holds not to mention all our receivers had serious injuries. Felt like they had a ton of 'coverage sacks' from their questionably tight coverage 🤣 refs in the super bowl weren't having it. From the looks of it refs this year aren't having it either. Their dline has been pretty awful this year as well Yea theyre pretty much unstoppable on offense between the 20s and we just have to tighten up in the red zone where their ability to stretch the field isn't as important

Yea we'll be 'fine' if we don't win both statistically but getting worked by kc for the third time would be such a huge blow to the confidence. We could go 15-2 and none of that matters really if we can't beat kc

Don't really have the luxury to rest him...I know it's way too early to say this but theres a very good chance this game decides the 1 seed. Kc,Baltimore, and Cleveland all have a lot more tough division games than us so we are way in the driver seat for that 1 seed if we beat kc. That bye is huge

Houston is a terrible team overall but they have a pretty decent defensive line and a good offensive line imo so it's still pretty impressive what we were able to do in the trenches

I still don't think we were stunned by pit that game felt like more of a fluke to me. Almost happened to gb yesterday against pit as well...they were absolutely dominating then pit blocked a fg and returned it for a td to take the lead but it got called back on an Offside that couldve gone either way

I think we're sleeping on Washington a bit...they went out and dropped 30+ this week and scored 30+ on the giants also...heinicke can definitely play. Defense is definitely more reliable than offense and you would've seen the offense taking more risks today if we didn't trust the defense so much. The weather was pretty awful as well so I wouldn't hold today's game against the offense

I think it was more of a result of bad luck than a wakeup call. Pit was a questionable Offside call away from going up on the packers on a blocked fg td despite getting dominated most of the game today...felt super similar

I'm not sure if we were intimidated we used the gameplan on the chiefs that everyone uses on us and we got roasted by Travis kelce...likely would've happened to TB also if we didn't bang up kcs offensive line. I dont think we had even a moderately healthy receiver for the afccg so our built to win shootouts team never really had a chance but im not sure intimidated is the reason why.

Haha scheduling complaints are everyone's favorite threads in general

Idk how we can complain about our extra opponent when we won the division last year and still got to avoid the best team in the nfc east by far and the patriots have to play them instead loll so the whole original post was wild 🤣

Yea could be me just remembering the big plays...our receivers were absolute poop that year so its tough to tell where the blame goes lol i think we had more drops and less wr separation than anyone else in the league. I remember year 2 he noticeably struggled on the deep ball...I thought he was good last year though.

Every time he misses a play he seems to be perfectly in the middle of the TV broadcast with nobody else around which doesn't help hahaha maybe he's camera shy. So I think a lot of us don't give him the benefit of the doubt and we're assuming he's bad-average when we don't notice him.

That's interesting I just rewatched the game and thought the pass blocking was pretty bad for most of the game although maybe that's to be expected....seemed like daboll gave josh more short to intermediate passing routes expecting this to happen though.

Finally hitting their stride...after one week of mediocre play lolll

The thing with how teams are game planning against us though is you need a ton of personnel to pull it off...we just saw 2 of the teams that could do it back to back. Steelers might have had more trouble if we actually played moss although hindsight is 20/20. Just the front 4 being stout isn't enough...Miami and pit are stacked at so many positions. Of course we are the only team that saw some TJ watt this year too 🤣 I don't see too many teams left on the schedule that can pull that off defensively...maybe new orleans?

I think he tries to laser them in to keep them out of the wind...that deep ball he floated to diggs early in the game drifted way right in the wind. Dude was hitting frequent bombs his rookie season to Robert foster of all people 🤣

Yep agreed...kc has to be careful though cuz that chargers roster is no joke and Denver has been a qb away for the last few years. Looks like the Raiders could be good too so they don't have much wiggle room. We've still got a decent shot at the 1 or 2 seed even if we drop one to kc

Dude was wiiiiide open in the middle of the field haha I loved that

Yea its weird how it works the previous big contract is the benchmark even if the person getting extended isn't quite as good. Which is how you have something like Eli manning being the highest paid qb in the nfl for awhile 🤣