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How could an offensive player on one team 'beat' an offensive player on another team 🤣 in fact...I think your logic is completely backwards and further cemented Josh as a true mvp in that loss. Dude was the whole team the defense couldn't get a stop and the offensive line couldn't block for almost the entire game and we still were a few inches from getting the win. I would def agree with this...people seem to think mvp is find the best team and pick the best player on it but that's not at all what an mvp is lol dak and Kyler have very similar 'these two guys carry the team' vibes to Josh

66 yard fg that never should've even happened...refs missed the most obvious delay of game of all time the play before that People keep going on about guys that are wide open either after josh has thrown the ball to someone else or after he has rolled to the other side of the field or after he has already scrambled past the line of scrimmage...I think mostly because the commentators were absolute fools last night 🤣 I do remember them saying ohhhhh this guy was wide open and it being one of those situations quite a few times.

How can a game be a blowout when you give up 6 consecutive scores lol also its pretty tough to be methodological on offense when the titans are getting pretty much free rushers only rushing 4 most of the game I think part of it was we finally started to get some good push against the Titans dline on the last couple drives...they looked gassed but made the play that mattered most. Brady also doesn't have a left tackle launched into his lap the second he takes the snap on a sneak lol I can't say I've ever seen that before

I think every teams fans are thinking it's not their year...even the 5-1 teams have looked pretty mediocre against bad-average opponents. The Ravens have been about as lucky as you can get so far. Also keep in mind each team is gonna have more holes than usual because the cap was significantly reduced

They did seem to gas out on the dline late in the game too. I'm shocked they came up so huge on that 4th down It's crazy how much getting the W or the L changes the perception of things. If he gets the ball one inch further on that hurdle and we get in the end zone I bet he'd be the mvp favorite right now and the whole sports world would be talking him up...but now we've got people saying he was mediocre last night loll

There was def one other that I remember although it led to a PI and he missed beasley once but it looked like he expected beasley to run a different option route to me. Other than that he was on fire in my opinion...its funny people see different things in the same game haha football is such a team sport that the act of assigning blame is pretty difficult

Haha yea he missed that one...the decision was fine both those defenders were beat and he just has to get it almost anywhere out in front of sanders but he underthrew it

I think it was mostly stunts coming from all over that we just weren't picking up which hopefully is more correctable than our guys just getting whooped by the same 3 or 4 down linemen all game

Just cuz there were two guys in coverage doesn't mean he was double covered lol sanders burned both those guys it was just an underthrown ball...more up the field and its an easy td. We actually even completed the pass to pick up the 3rd and 17 but the defender made a nice heads up play and forced him out of bounds so im not sure 3rd and 17 is impossible. I just dont get how you can compare a guy who's seeing a 4 man rush with 7 dbs in coverage to a guy where everyone and their mother is biting on the play action and every receiver on the field is comically wide open. Josh was not perfect but he was great...we were literally inches away from talking about how he carried the whole team to victory. The sack was a bad play though you are not wrong about that...it had absolutely nothing to do with indecisiveness though. He was going to have Davis open deep on a double move but the weak side safety who had crept up a little too far was like oh cr*p and he raced back and got over to help just in time

Haha I have said that same thing in like 4 threads so far 🤣 yes we definitely are desensitized to magical Josh allen absolute missles thrown on the run while being chased by 4 dlinemen...its incredible what this guy has been able to do with a pretty poor offensive line this season. This was a vintage Josh putting the team on his back game we just came up literally inches short

I don't really understand 'indecisive' criticisms...there were some plays where a receiver was going to be open deep and he just ran out of time but I wouldn't say that's indecisive. Also 'pump fakes' often happen because defenders hands are in the passing lanes and you just don't see that from a broadcast angle. Josh was fantastic in this game I think people are just becoming desensitized to these ridiculous throws hes making on the run and under duress just because receivers look 'open' yea of course tanehill got the ball out quick haha our linebackers were completely out of position on every play action fake and pretty much every receiver on the field was wide open.

Well said as always...I will quasi defend that throw into 'double coverage' though as sanders had one or two steps on both defenders it was just a badly thrown ball. Maybe not the moment for a shot like that though.

There is a debate in how the call was changed without an official review but I def agree they ended up with the right call. If that was ruled a first down and went to an official review though like I would assume is the normal process I think it probably stands

I'm not talking about screens that's a pass rush beater anyway. It's just comical how far from one dimensional our offense is I wish y'all could talk to the defensive coordinators game planning against us lol just having thr discipline to prevent josh from scrambling is an absolute nightmare...we hammered kc early with designed qb runs not passes then they had no answers...MacKenzie is a headache then you've got diggs and beasley and sanders to worry about not to mention Knox coming on strong. It's borderline indefensible trying to double diggs and cover all these other guys teams are probably thrilled when we hand the ball off even if it goes for 4 or 5 yards. I think we're a better offense than kc honestly...they lean so heavily on tyreek hill that mahomes seems to slip up when he's out of the equation...we have plenty of weapons beyond diggs

Exactly....the Titans and browns are really the last old school ground and pound to set up play action type teams left and I guess we'll see how they do but there is no sense forcing that into your offense when you have so many strengths in other areas. Like think about Henry tonight...one of the best to ever do it right...you still gotta feed him tons of carries to break big runs. he had a great night and still got stuffed at the line plenty of times. And all those touches are less touches for the strength of your team against a weak pass defense.

That's exactly where I was going with that just with a different spin...air Allen gives the bills their best chance to win and he is masking the deficiencies in the roster which is exactly what you need your star player to do. Every roster is gonna have holes...our weakness is we have guys that should in theory be decent pass blockers and struggle against the run. Nearly every team in the league is complaining about their offensive line right now there just isn't elite talent at those positions coming out of college anymore because the college game is so different. We are gonna go down this road where we force carries with our rbs all in the name of balance for what? There are plenty of ways you can threaten the defense in a similar way to a rb carry without handing the ball off to a rb. I am just shocked that the takeaway from a game where the offense was likely a qb slipping/ a different official spotting a ball away from scoring 38 points and that teams defense gave up 6 consecutive scores and we are complaining about the offense lol

Lol its the offensive linemen...run blocking is not their strength. Singletary/moss had some impressive carries tonight despite having zero holes to speak of. The salary cap is reduced this season and offensive line talent across the league is diminishing...your team is always going to have weaknesses no matter who you are. The fact that we have people screaming to run the ball with a running back when you have an absolute freak at qb and you can do run-like quick underneath passes to someone like MacKenzie blows my mind it's like y'all want to lose lol

The 'hero ball' critique and the defense getting absolutely demolished seem to suspiciously always happen in the same game lol so called hero ball is the only reason our offense is doing anything in games where our oline gets beat up that bad..honestly if you forced me to criticize the play calling I think we ran too much today and set up too many 3rd and medium ish situations...I think this 'you need to be able to run the ball with a running back to compete' is a complete oversimplification...Tennessee is about the best you can get with offensive balance and I will eat crow if I'm wrong but wake me when they win the super bowl. In fact, we watched the outrageously balanced SF offense lose to a mahomes led offense in a super bowl. Today was more about the defense not matching up well than anything else

I mean it's also pretty important to fill running lanes too against a team like TEN...if you're going all out rushing the passer you could leave yourself exposed to some pretty big runs. That buys tannehill some extra time

That's kind of the game with a qb sneak though...they are very effective unless you get everyone around the line of scrimmage...it really didn't look like the titans even sold out on the sneak to me our guys just got whooped outrageously bad...the offensive line started winning late in the game too looked like the titans dline was starting to get gassed...so I'm pretty surprised how monumentally bad that sneak went

Honestly formation alone I thought we had a win there. Our oline just got absolutely embarrassed.

I totally get what you're saying but we don't give him enough credit when he holds the ball and hits on a huge game changing play imo...we wouldve gotten bounced first round of the playoffs if it weren't for plays exactly like that one. Being able to take the top off the defense is huge for opening up other stuff much like Henry running the ball sets up play action passes

It's really pretty amazing how bad he blew it on that play...in a negative way of course loll like that's almost 'I bet my life savings on the titans so im throwing the game' level bad

They have analytics guys crunching the numbers on stuff like this...an allen sneak was undoubtedly the highest percentage play there. Throwing the ball in a short yardage situation like that opens you up to maybe the receiver drops the ball maybe the pass gets batted etc ....just didn't work out and obviously everyone is free to criticize

Passing the ball in that situation wouldve absolutely terrified me...so much can go wrong not to mention they don't want to end a game with a tossup type PI so they let the defense get away with some stuff