Right they were down 19-3 against a clearly injured mahomes in the first half. If mahomes finished out that game the browns get absolutely blown out and the conversation is completely different right now.. Also yea Cleveland went 11-5 but they had a negative point differential. We get a little too hung up on who's roster is the best on paper in the offseason I think. That 8-8 Rex Ryan bills team was arguably one of the best rosters on paper that we've ever had and where did that get us lol I think theres a better chance that the browns have a decent season but miss the playoffs than them making any kind of noise in the afc