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10 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:
Yeah you're right I went too far judging people. I apologise. It isn't either/or. But the point is that I don't get why people are so adamant on playing the game just to make sure it's "fair" when it is more than clear that there are no good solutions available (and to me, cancelling the game is clearly the best / most simple one).
For me it’s more that the players fought through so much adversity all year that they deserve a shot at competing for that top spot should they want that chance. It doesn’t at all matter what we want I would certainly agree with you there. I’d like to see them at least get the option to complete the game even if they turn it down
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7 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
The problem with pushing the playoffs back a week and removing the extra week before the Super Bowl is that we are all just assuming the Bills are even ready to play next week. I'm sure the NFL would like them to play the Patriots this Sunday, as not playing them would create even more chaos in the fight for the last wild card spot. But I think for the Bills to be ready to play this Sunday they will need to get some really positive news on their teammate first.
The Bills are in a position that they can easily skip these last two games before the playoffs start.
if positive news is coming it will be within the next several days. It sounds like his heart function returned to normal last night but they will leave him intubated for a few days to monitor things so he is not out of the woods yet.
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9 minutes ago, flmike said:
I would hope for the same. Don't get me wrong. I've seen them pull things out (for example, the last few weeks...). It just wasn't looking good with the Bengals poised to make it 14-3 in the next minute or so. The Bills D did not have really good answers the entire quarter to that point. Just making a point but still holding out hope.
As far as we know neither did the bengals though. Even if they went up 14-3 it was with an extra possession. The bills really had no problem driving down the field. I was a bit surprised to not see the bills go for that 4th and 3…that implies there was some level of confidence in the defense
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10 minutes ago, flmike said:
The odds of that were pretty small in their home stadium.
Mahomes threw a game losing interception against us when we were missing a bunch of defensive starters in their home stadium.
baltimore was up 20-3 on us in their home stadium when we were missing a bunch of defensive starters and Lamar threw a game losing interception.
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10 minutes ago, flmike said:
The difference is that we would be facing Burrows w/o Hamlin and possibly Taron. Was looking to be a long night in any case. Bills could still win if Josh had an MVP night in a tough environment. That's all beside the point now, though. The game was suspended. Best possible outcome is that Hamlin improves and they push everything back a week and kill one of the "prep" weeks for the Super Bowl. The Packers didn't need that in '66.
On the flip side we were winning in the offensive trenches quite handedly and had already piled up quite a bit of rushing yards. Bills are pretty tough to stop when they can run the football and get good pass protection
i would expect the bills to come up with a key sack or two with the bengals playing an absolutely horrible RT. I have no idea who was gonna win this one. Maybe if the bills got first possession and went down 14-3 I’d be closer to seeing where you were coming from but neither of those things happened
Even if we go down 14-3 there’s a pretty good shot we would’ve come up with the td to make it 14-10
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Just now, No_Matter_What said:
This.
To me it seems weird how so many people say that they care about Hamlin but at the same time they only think about how unfair is that KC might profit from cancelling the game. I mean who cares. Do you really want the players to go to Cincy to "finish" that game either tomorrow or sometime after the Pats game just to satisfy your personal feeling that it would be unfair to hand KC 1 seed? Come on.
To be fair I don’t think that’s the ‘only’ thing they’re thinking about. If the nfl discusses continuing the game I would certainly want it left up to the players whether they actually want to continue or not. You can care about Hamlins health and think the situation is a bit unfair…it’s not an either/or
that’s my guess as to how it’s going to go down…nfl will offer a reschedule and leave it up to both teams and if both teams agree they don’t want to play the game it won’t be counted.
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Just now, No_Matter_What said:
I don't know about @LabattBlue, but I do. And so what? Damar Hamlin almost died and that's why we could finish the game. If it can't be rescheduled in a simple way, that just take it as a fact, cancel the game. KC didn't cause it, and if they benefit, then so be it.
If they cancel the game I’m pretty sure you’re right about how it’s going to go down. It’s pretty wild that kc essentially gets 2 gifts in one though…cincy had a shot at the 1 seed too
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1 minute ago, flmike said:
Except the Bills were facing Burrows with 2 DBs down from an already depleted squad. Josh would have had to score 8 points on every drive to win that game.
The bills held the chiefs to 20 missing like all their dbs
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2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:
Weren’t the Bengals 22-0 up against the Pats last week, yet were a Stevenson fumble away from losing the game Come the end of the fourth quarter? And look at Colts-Vikings. How anyone can say we were bound to lose down 7-3 in the first quarter beats me.Yes…there’s no way to know who was gonna win this one. It was still relatively early in the first quarter and it appeared it was going to be a shootout
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Take with a grain of salt but I have read on twitter that if the game is completed it will be within the next two days. Looks like they’re attributing the info to Vic carucci
Sounds like the most they’re gonna do if the game actually happens is play the game this week and push back the bills/pats game a little next week
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5 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:
Yea it sounds like his heartbeat was restored but his pulse was pretty weak and the op was asking why he needed help breathing. This is great news…I’m hopeful they were able to restart his heart relatively quickly
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50 minutes ago, QCity said:
He sure did.
He’s 1/2 then because he said the bills wouldn’t be able to run the ball…we had 35 rushing yards our first drive
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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:
You're not going to hear a word from the NFL until Hamllin's status is known. As it should be.
He’ll likely be in the icu for a few more days labeled as critical condition I’d think.
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6 minutes ago, Figster said:
Watching our Buffalo Bill football team of big, strong men. Some of the toughest and best athletes in the world. Break down and cry on National television. Knowing why, and what they were witnessing at the time. Is something that will haunt me until the day I die.
Yup, I'll be up all night...
I have never seen anything like that in my life…not even any of the really awful neck injuries where you weren’t sure if the players would even walk again. The whole bills team thought they were watching their friend die on the field it was absolutely awful
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1 hour ago, Dick_Cheney said:
Doesn’t this have major implications on who wins the AFC North, which in turns has major implications on everything else?
I really don’t see how they don’t play this somehow.
I think they’re gonna play it but they don’t want the focus to be on rescheduling the game right now which is the right call
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12 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
Right but why did he have a heartbeat but not breathing at the hospital ??
Your heart can’t pump the oxygenated blood around your body well enough when your heart function is very compromised. So the lungs stop working as well and stuff starts to get backed up.
he had a pulse but it was very weak so his heart likely wasn’t strong enough for him to breathe on his own. They put him on a ventilator to essentially breathe for him and it sounds like his heart function has returned to normal but as a precaution they’ll likely leave him on the ventilator for awhile and monitor things
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4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
It’s like when somebody gets smoked by a car… And their body is basically dead
But their brain isn’t And they’re running on adrenaline… So they pop up
Then their brain realize they’re dead and they collapse
Idk exactly what happened but I think an AED/defibrillator is supposed to stop your heart so that it can restart naturally on its own in the appropriate rhythm. So it’s possible that the shot to the chest knocked his heartbeat way out of rhythm to the point where he was losing motor function and the only way to save him was to restart his heart.
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21 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:
Why does this matter to you? Who cares "who was lying"?
For me it’s not at all about who’s lying. But I think zac Taylor may have done a really special thing here and it gets undercut by the nfl saying they just instructed both teams to leave the field and there were never any plans to restart the game. His team had a near perfect start and it looked like they were trying to restart a game his team would more than likely win and without hesitation he went over to McDermott and they decided they weren’t finishing the game. If that’s the case I feel like people deserve to know. And if the league handled it well that would be a good thing for people to know also.
maybe it’s stupid and I’m just looking for a silver lining in a terrible situation..idk. Thanks for the civil answer though
5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:Him getting up is a good sign hes not paralyzed, but is puzzling why he collapsed?
Blunt force trauma to your chest can stop your heart…Hamlin suffered cardiac arrest and they had to restart his heart
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12 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:
This is perhaps the lowest of the many low conversations I've seen on this board over the years.
Who gives a damn???
Shame on all of you.
You’re not replying to me directly and I haven’t followed what people with similar ish opinions have been saying so feel free to disregard if I’m way off base here…but can I ask why?
can you imagine seeing your friends heart stop on the field and he’s taken off in an ambulance then allegedly hearing ‘be ready to go in 5 minutes’. Maybe I can only speak for myself but it is because I feel terribly for the players/Hamlin that I want to know what happened. It’s not at all just looking for an excuse to take out a pitchfork against the nfl again.
I would be as happy as anyone to hear it’s all just coincidental…it’s not something I’m actively trying to believe
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3 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:
Again was Joe Buck getting his info directly from the NFL?More likely Buck and Aikman were getting info from the Referee assigned to them who stated the standard SOP is a five minute warm up and play resumes.
People quoting Buck or Van Pelt as the NFL directed teams that the game would resume with a five minute break is stupid. They were not in contact with the league.
Who was in contact with the league - it appears the Refs and the HC of each team and after their discussion the players were sent to the locker room.
Following additional discussion - the game was suspended pending further discussion.
I am not saying the NFL is 100% clear, but the decision to suspend a game needed league, both team, and NFLPA input and was not something that was decided in the time Hamlin was injured. Hence getting the players off and having time to discuss the entirety of the situation.
Again - in the end the correct decision was made and the five minute thing was announced by people covering the game with no input or discussion with the league. It was based entirely on normal SOP for an abnormal situation.
According to his own quote he was:
‘They’ve been given 5 minutes to get ready to go back to playing…that’s the word weve gotten from the league and the word we’ve gotten from down on the field’ is the particular quote I’m talking about. There is a near 0% chance they were just outlining the standard ambulance procedures there. and if he somehow was just talking about standard procedure, that quote should’ve been corrected at some point imo.
they announced it over the PA also it sounds like(maybe someone at the game can confirm so I do not need to trust twitter) and the bengals offense was warming up on the sideline after the announcement . I absolutely respect your opinion that the right decision was reached and how they got there isn’t important, but I can see people being skeptical of how some of this was handled.
It could definitely be a series of coincidences but based on what we saw it’s a pretty reasonable assumption that the league wanted the game to go on and the coaches stepped in.
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7 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said:
There's some strong opinions on this one!
If he didn’t say ‘that’s the word we got from down on the field but nobody is moving’ I could’ve chalked it all up to aikman/buck just assuming the standard protocol was being followed and not even thought about it twice.
that’s a really specific thing to say though.
it was like everything changed after McDermott and Taylor talked. If they were instructed to clear the field before that a lot of what the bengals player's were doing doesn’t make a lot of sense
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9 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:
Uggh just when I started to believe it. If Zac Taylor and McDermott stood up to the nfl wanting to resume the game I really think we deserve to know that.
an announcer slipping up once not using the best words to describe something I could buy .
the evidence though likely points to the announcement being made or a series of really crazy coincidences…it was repeated by the announcers quite a few times and burrow was warming up and McDermott and Taylor had a long conversation before the players were pulled from the field
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4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
Of course it is. That’s why I said “IMO”. I have no idea what they’ll do. Just my opinion.
Cant imagine they’ll just get rid of the SB BYE so the Bills/Bengals can make up this game.
They might offer the bills/bengals finishing this game later this week and slide the bills and bengals games back next week but not fully canceling the bye before the superbowl. And if the bengals and bills both don’t want to do that they’ll probably just tie the game.
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13 minutes ago, SCBills said:
This is my guess, as based on anyone I know with medical knowledge seems quite sure this doesn’t end tomorrow with Hamlin waking up and all is fine. (Not that he couldn’t be fine down the line).
Have to think the Bills would agree to this given the circumstance, and the Bengals probably wouldn’t be loving this but also may not want to play on Wed/Thurs only to risk losing and then have a showdown for the division a couple days later.
It’ll take several days to know for sure but normal vital signs a couple days after the injury is a much different situation than watching your friend fighting for his life leaving the field in an ambulance and having to finish the game. I’m not saying I agree with it but I would not be surprised to see the game moved to Wednesday or something like that and sliding the bills and bengals prospective games back next week
im with you though personally I don’t think it’s any less emotionally difficult if they play the game in a day or two
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Playoff Solutions Assuming they don’t replay the Bengals game.
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Yea…idk why people are assuming it’s easy to book like 100 hotel rooms at the last possible minute. Even if they knew they’d have to come back to Cincinnati Tuesday they probably would’ve flown home last night still so that’s not proof of anything either way