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6 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:
Well...
I did say he was night and day different with pressure in his face lol. I think it was game before last they showed his stats while being pressured and he was horrible.
Oh yea I just mean comparing qbs on completely different teams is tough...like if you plopped mahomes onto the bills roster who knows what you'd get. It's scary to think of what josh could do if we had someone like Travis kelce
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19 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:
2 shutouts by the D
Top 5 offense (being modest)
3rd and 21 is a problem that we no longer worry about.
Great CoachingOne botched play and the Steelers would be 0-4.
I was gonna say the same thing... a lot of these teams that have beaten supposedly great teams have also barely held on against pretty mediocre teams as well. We have absolutely annihilated three teams in a row and the game we lost we controlled most of the game.
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30 minutes ago, First Round Bust said:
from playing against backup qbs the past three weeks to playing two teams in a row that whipped us x 3 last season...will the real Buffalo Bills please stand up...
I dont see how brissett or heinicke count as backup qbs... they are likely both better than the guy they replaced. Davis mills sure that's a backup. Heinicke has been somewhere between solid and great every game in his career except for when we played them
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3 hours ago, Comebackkid said:
well this is pretty simple as far as on paper...Daboll as to come up with a better plan on offense. Last year he coached really well
and then went into a coaching shell once we hit the playoffs. it was night and day different to me.
Then the team has to execute. the one thing mohomes has over josh is being confident and calm regardless of the situation and who
he is playing. the last thing is pressureing mahomes is everything....you dont see it often but he is night and day different when
he has constant pressure in his face.
Mahomes played one game in his career in a josh allen like situation where a 4 man rush was crushing his offensive line and he did not look confident nor calm lol
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4 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said:
That's fine but we did as well without him last season.
Our defense was a sieve last season outside of one nice performance against Baltimore and Josh allen carried the whole team lol
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10 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:
Probably not. Especially without Milano.
Likely need to do what they failed to do in the title game, run the ball successfully, as bills still have no answer for Chiefs front 4. Limit each other's possessions, try to keep the score close in the high 20's. If it turns into a shootout, the Bills O Line will get run over (again) .
I'm still very suspicious of the chiefs defensive performance in the afc championship game lol they got away with a ton of holds not to mention all our receivers had serious injuries. Felt like they had a ton of 'coverage sacks' from their questionably tight coverage 🤣 refs in the super bowl weren't having it. From the looks of it refs this year aren't having it either. Their dline has been pretty awful this year as well
3 hours ago, ArdmoreRyno said:Not possible to stop Hill.
At least that's what it's like on Madden'
Dude breaks free by 10 yards every damn play.
Yea theyre pretty much unstoppable on offense between the 20s and we just have to tighten up in the red zone where their ability to stretch the field isn't as important
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3 hours ago, warrior9 said:
Yeah, I mean it would be enormous to get a win vs. KC this week. Moves us to 4-1 and them to 2-3.
We still have Pats twice, Jets twice, Falcons, Jags on our schedule. It would a lot of making up for the Chiefs to catch us.
The Titans game should be very winnable. They did have quite a few players out yesterday but their defense is full of holes.
Yea we'll be 'fine' if we don't win both statistically but getting worked by kc for the third time would be such a huge blow to the confidence. We could go 15-2 and none of that matters really if we can't beat kc
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43 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
I know people would hate this but if there is even a chance he could make it worse I would sit him and start Klein.
Hammys just tend to linger if you dont rest them
Don't really have the luxury to rest him...I know it's way too early to say this but theres a very good chance this game decides the 1 seed. Kc,Baltimore, and Cleveland all have a lot more tough division games than us so we are way in the driver seat for that 1 seed if we beat kc. That bye is huge
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2 hours ago, Azucho98 said:
Lets not crown the "replacements" until they have a real challenge.
Houston is a terrible team overall but they have a pretty decent defensive line and a good offensive line imo so it's still pretty impressive what we were able to do in the trenches
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8 hours ago, Professor Worthington said:
The butt whoopings commence. Coincidence? Or is this one of the best get off the mat Bills’ teams we’ve ever seen?
I still don't think we were stunned by pit that game felt like more of a fluke to me. Almost happened to gb yesterday against pit as well...they were absolutely dominating then pit blocked a fg and returned it for a td to take the lead but it got called back on an Offside that couldve gone either way
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1 hour ago, VaMilBill said:
What worries me is the efficiency of our offense. Yes we’ve scored a lot of points. But that is because we’ve been playing bad offenses who quickly give the ball back to us and we score. But it seems like it’s a grind to score.
when we play the chiefs and they continue to sustain drives and score, our offense will have to do the same. We can’t count on the defense to carry us throughout the season this way especially when we start playing better teams.
I think we're sleeping on Washington a bit...they went out and dropped 30+ this week and scored 30+ on the giants also...heinicke can definitely play. Defense is definitely more reliable than offense and you would've seen the offense taking more risks today if we didn't trust the defense so much. The weather was pretty awful as well so I wouldn't hold today's game against the offense
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27 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:
I believe you are correct, it stung a bit, but…, wake up call,
I think it was more of a result of bad luck than a wakeup call. Pit was a questionable Offside call away from going up on the packers on a blocked fg td despite getting dominated most of the game today...felt super similar
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16 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Nah. They were playing defense at a high level going into the AFCCG last season.
But they were intimidated and beaten before they got off the bus that day(and to an extent in the earlier game with their play-not-to-lose gameplan).
It wouldn't have mattered what their defensive ranking was.
KC could have finished 15-1 if they needed to so they were going to get home field and a scared Bills team wasn't beating them.
I'm not sure if we were intimidated we used the gameplan on the chiefs that everyone uses on us and we got roasted by Travis kelce...likely would've happened to TB also if we didn't bang up kcs offensive line. I dont think we had even a moderately healthy receiver for the afccg so our built to win shootouts team never really had a chance but im not sure intimidated is the reason why.
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9 hours ago, cwater10 said:
Guilty, but laughing now... Have to acknowledge work well done... Damn!
Haha scheduling complaints are everyone's favorite threads in general
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17 minutes ago, Amorgus said:
It seems the "logic" is they supposedly played one out-of-conference opponent that they wouldn't have had to play last year before most other team., The total number of games played "doesn't matter". Why this matters at all is lost on me as well. The Bills decimated their "extra" opponent. I don't know who the other teams have for theirs but it's moot to bicker about now that Washington is toast. Hopefully the rest of the AFC's "extra" opponents destroy them.
Idk how we can complain about our extra opponent when we won the division last year and still got to avoid the best team in the nfc east by far and the patriots have to play them instead loll so the whole original post was wild 🤣
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25 minutes ago, BigDingus said:
They weren't really frequent, his rookie year & his sophomore season he was rated worst or second worst in passes beyond 30 yards in the air (I believe it was 30). One of the weird problems he had was UNDER throwing them, though he had some over throws too.
I agree with the OP about him never being a very accurate deep passer, at least not from the pocket. He seems to have better control while running for whatever reason, but hitting an open man in stride from the pocket causes him issue.
I think the real reason is a combination of his height & arm strength. I have zero clue the size of other QB's, but when you see Josh throw some of those deep passes, you can just tell he doesn't have to put much effort into it. I feel like a lot of other QB's have a natural sweet spot, and when throwing deep, they know they have to use extra force & effort to get it on target. Josh on the other hand, he's already towering over the line, then has to choose between putting a little power behind it, or actually restraining himself. If he puts power behind it, will it just zip way past someone before they even get there? If he tries to hold back, does it float too much & require the receiver to stop his run to come back for it?
I get that technically all QB's have to think about this, but when your arm can just fire one off 50+ yards at the flick of a wrist, you have a different set of issues. You can almost see when Allen is throwing deep that it's almost too easy. The balls he under throws seem more of him knowing "if I put any juice behind this, I might launch it into the scoreboard," and trying to adjust his own power down.
It's hard to put into words, but maybe others have noticed it too. It just seems like he has the opposite problem that someone like Brady has. Brady can throw fairly deep if he HAS to (not like he used to) but after exerting a lot more effort. Josh could throw 40 yards and the ball won't even be hitting its arc. It's a weird problem to have, but it just feels like a big dude with a huge arm struggling to reel that in a bit.
Yea could be me just remembering the big plays...our receivers were absolute poop that year so its tough to tell where the blame goes lol i think we had more drops and less wr separation than anyone else in the league. I remember year 2 he noticeably struggled on the deep ball...I thought he was good last year though.
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10 hours ago, MJS said:
Edmunds is generally solid in coverage, but people don't usually see that on the broadcast.
It's just a bunch of fans yelling for no reason. Is Edmunds an elite player? No. Does he suck? No. He makes some plays, he misses some plays, he cleans up tackles, and he is decent in coverage.
He'll have to step up his game if he wants a good 2nd contract.
Every time he misses a play he seems to be perfectly in the middle of the TV broadcast with nobody else around which doesn't help hahaha maybe he's camera shy. So I think a lot of us don't give him the benefit of the doubt and we're assuming he's bad-average when we don't notice him.
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That's interesting I just rewatched the game and thought the pass blocking was pretty bad for most of the game although maybe that's to be expected....seemed like daboll gave josh more short to intermediate passing routes expecting this to happen though.
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Finally hitting their stride...after one week of mediocre play lolll
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5 hours ago, KzooMike said:
I was the one who made the 2019 Allen thread last week, I wanted to circle back to his incredible performance this week as well as review the outlook with the data we have.
The data tells us teams have game planned for the Bills by avoiding the blitz. Understandably so, against five or more pass-rushers in 2020, Allen completed 150 of 226 passes for 1,791 yards, 21 touchdowns, and 2 interceptions. He was one of the best in the NFL. As of Sunday’s game, Allen and the Bills had faced blitzes on just 13.1% of his attempt’s vs 43% and 44%% in 2020 and 2019.
Washington doubled down following the same path as Pittsburgh and Miami, reducing Allen’s Blitz against attempts to just 8.7% on the year. The differential year over year is surely the largest in NFL history and is not sustainable but the pattern is clear on how teams wanted to play the Bills. Pressure with your front four and try and make Josh force it.
Teams have actually pressured Allen on the year 30.8% of his attempt’s vs 21.9% in 2020. Teams were getting home and with more people in coverage. The getting home changed against Washington dropping Allen’s pressure rate on the year to just 20.6%. The 10%+ drop now shows better stats than 2020.
As far as the game within the game. I think Daboll and Allen did a few things really well. Allen seemed very alert early to check down routes which he has had in both the two previous games as well as understanding he was only facing a 4 man-rush. Our line played well, but Allen was incredible at taking one or two steps to completely allude the rush. He seemed to feel patient in doing so just knowing he can see four lineman and that’s all that’s coming.
After he got warmed up you saw the full extent of his ability making nearly every throw imaginable and some that aren’t. Daboll called a reasonably balanced game and is no
doubt game planning against this “no pressure” style defense teams have pulled the first three weeks. Josh and Daboll likely got teams to really think about being more balanced. Excellent adjustments, Josh should start to see more blitzes. It’s punch/counter punch league and we countered in a big way.
Just to be clear, I never was being negative to Josh long term or really in that moment. Teams clearly adjusted to us, at the time we failed to beat the adjustment. We will likely see more of that again. Yes, in the future I won't jump the gun too early. Clearly such a massive difference in the way teams are approaching us this year vs last year shows a level of respect that is exciting. Peak potential arrives when no more adjustments exist which I only think can happen when you get studied and get the kitchen sink thrown at you. Perhaps that's the 2021 Allen we will eventually arrive at.
The thing with how teams are game planning against us though is you need a ton of personnel to pull it off...we just saw 2 of the teams that could do it back to back. Steelers might have had more trouble if we actually played moss although hindsight is 20/20. Just the front 4 being stout isn't enough...Miami and pit are stacked at so many positions. Of course we are the only team that saw some TJ watt this year too 🤣 I don't see too many teams left on the schedule that can pull that off defensively...maybe new orleans?
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21 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
I just don't think Allen is ever going to throw those consistent rainbow dimes that Russell Wilson (best deep ball thrower in the league, IMHO) or even Patrick Mahomes throw.
But ya know what... that's okay.
First of all, the reason I don't think he reaches that point is his tendency to throw a flat ball on those traditional (using that word on purpose... I'll get back to it) "bombs" QBs throw. Now... I think Allen is accurate enough on his deep balls and I think he can get better, but I just don't think he'll ever be the league's best.
But once again, that's okay.
I think Allen is already up there with Rodgers as the most accurate intermediate passer in the NFL. Here's a good example:
...but wait... that's a pass that traveled nearly 40 yards in the air without Allen’s feet planted as he's running to his right. Wouldn't that be a "deep ball" for a bunch of NFL QBs? Yet Allen throws a dime with such ease.
So while I think we will occasionally get upset for missed bombs down the field from Allen that he probably should have hit (week 1 to Manny Sanders... though that one was really only off by a yard or 2), we can rejoice that we have what looks like one of the most accurate intermediate passers in the NFL... and that intermediate range appears to be anything up to 35-40 yards beyond the LOS.
Pretty impressive if ya ask me
I think he tries to laser them in to keep them out of the wind...that deep ball he floated to diggs early in the game drifted way right in the wind. Dude was hitting frequent bombs his rookie season to Robert foster of all people 🤣
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38 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
I loved Chris Simms' take on that play. "I felt like I wanted to talk to my 11 year old after that and say I know it's cool, but come on man." The no-look pass is good misdirection if he's trying to manipulate a defender. When the #5 WR on the depth chart is running wide open in the middle of the field just look at him and toss a layup. There's something about Mahomes that is so unlikable and it's good to see him caught high on his own supply.
But I fully expect the Chiefs to turn it around. They are still a really good team that keeps killing themselves with stupid mistakes. I won't believe the Bills are better than them until they actually defeat them. Two weeks.
Yep agreed...kc has to be careful though cuz that chargers roster is no joke and Denver has been a qb away for the last few years. Looks like the Raiders could be good too so they don't have much wiggle room. We've still got a decent shot at the 1 or 2 seed even if we drop one to kc
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4 hours ago, eball said:
My favorite play from the KC-LAC game yesterday was “showman” Mahomes throwing a no-look pass for an interception when it was completely unnecessary.
Dude was wiiiiide open in the middle of the field haha I loved that
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1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said:
From the article:
“Given how his numbers measure up against those of his peers (SEE: fellow member of the 2018 draft class Josh Allen; 89.7 passer rating, 70:32 TD-INT ratio), contract negotiations between the Ravens and their QB1 should be easy. A deal that ranks just above the six-year, $258 million extension Allen inked last month should serve as the floor for Jackson's next contract.”
Does this make you think, even more, that the Bills did the right thing by not waiting until season’s end to get the deal with Josh done? Numbers for elite players go up year after year. If injury or other circumstances were to take the run game away from Jackson, I highly doubt the debate exists. I am glad the Bills do not have this dilemma.
Yea its weird how it works the previous big contract is the benchmark even if the person getting extended isn't quite as good. Which is how you have something like Eli manning being the highest paid qb in the nfl for awhile 🤣
Schefter; Herbert is "lock" for HOF, Mahomes / Herbert best young QBs in NFL
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I would still argue allen came into the league firing on all cylinders relative to the talent around him. Herbert and mahomes got dropped into fantastic situations because the chargers couldn't win a single close game and the chiefs were already a solid team drafting a qb that they could groom. Allen made Robert foster look like an all pro lol I can't think of anyone else that could do that. This whole narrative of he was bad and then worked hard to improve is pretty exaggerated in my opinion...he won like half his starts with an all time awful roster with receivers that led the league in drops and were last in the league in separation