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It’s how every Hail Mary is defended…we were calling them stupid for not doing that on the hail Murray which wasn’t even a real Hail Mary 😂. The only way they’re calling a pi is if the ball is right on a receiver that’s getting held and the receiver can’t jump up to high point it due to the holding. it’s a play with a lot of receivers just standing around and you’re supposedly not allowed to box them out or impede the receivers moving around in the end zone?

4 of our last 6 losses have been divisional games and we are 18-6(.750 win percentage) in that time. It’s just a weird time to make that claim because most of our struggles have been divisional games recently and we are doing very well in the vast majority of non divisional games including a 2 game win streak against the chiefs at arrowhead

That does seem like the deal to me…after the pats/giants games the posts were certainly understandable but the bucs game was a big step in the right direction and we’re still getting those same sort of posts like we made zero improvements. it’s fine to think we won’t hang in the tougher part of our schedule I have no issue with that, but there was clear progress last night. The TB defense is no slouch by any means

Seems like most of the struggles are coming in division games lately tbh lol we lost 3 total games last season and 66.6% were divisional

Yep I was agreeing with you haha just wanted the other side to know this isn’t a just blind love fest either which seems to be the criticism you get whenever you mention a positive thing related to this team

I’ve been waiting for someone to come up with a better insult name than mcclappy which I hate haha it’s not clever or particularly insulting in any way.. mclapperson is a marginal improvement 😂

There’s just so much hyperbole at work on these boards haha like you can be critical of McDermott and still admit he has done a good job developing defensive players. the guy has gotten a ton out of pretty low ceiling talent type guys. Doesn’t mean he’s a genius that’s beyond criticism though by any means

I think it’s a little bit more complicated than that lol. If Ron Rivera is such a good, Super Bowl caliber coach he’d be turning that commanders team around. Some head coaches absolutely get carried to a Super Bowl and it’s been much more likely in the NFC than the AFC lately

Not to put words in anyone’s mouth but that did not appear to be the posters point at all. The ‘comeback’ last night was fueled by objectively flukey plays which is what they were referencing. The ball is not going to bounce only the opponents way at every possible opportunity seemed to be what the gist was, and despite that happening the closest they came was a very very low percentage desperation play which is how a lot of games end that one team is controlling. the giants and pats games were absolutely terrible, but last night was clearly a better effort without question.

Under a microscope though supposedly great/good coaches frequently make terrible decisions also to be fair. We’re just not putting other teams coaches under the same level of criticism understandably andy Reid made some absolutely disastrous decisions in that week 1 game There’s also a lot of terrible coaches in this league and many that are overrated in the same way you are criticizing McDermott so your numbers are way off regardless

I really don’t get this place a lot of the time…like all week we heard from people on here that the bucs are actually pretty good and we’re in trouble. we win and control the game but things are just as bad as before because a bunch of bounces went their way?

In the majority I’d say haha

1-1 in the giants and pats stretch seems just right…people sayin we should be 0-2 are being a bit hypocritical. I do think the win should’ve been against the pats and the lost should’ve been the giants though They want to correct a call in the giants game but the obviously blown ineligible man downfield penalty has to hold up to make us 0-2? also we got hosed on the jets punt return so things even out as time goes on…we’re about 50/50 on getting helped/hurt by late game penalties which is right where you should be

Godwin was lost that whole play and was at no point a threat to catch that pass. This is all getting massively overblown. Mike evans straight up knocked over 1/3rd of our team with a blatant opi which definitely didn’t help things.. if we got called for dpi on that play and they got away with that I never would’ve watched football again 🤣

That had a lot to do with it and evans undoubtedly was trying to accomplish just that lol I think some of it was the defenders playing the receivers to time their jumps and Godwin was just out of position so no one took him very seriously too. Looked like he was getting in position to catch a tipped pass to me and didn’t make it in time which is pretty normal for a Hail Mary but I keep getting downvoted for posting that 😂 seeing outcry that the bills weren’t called for dpi has had me giggling all day…that’s pretty typical defense by any team on any Hail Mary attempt. What evans did though very much is not

I could see it more if those late 8 points from the bucs weren’t pretty much dumb luck lol I do get where the negativity is coming from though but that was a pretty freak occurrence. a tipped ball on your side goes for an int but multiple 4th down penalties and two tipped balls in a row lead to points for the opponent id love to see what the odds on that are 😂 phillips is an idiot but that play def should’ve been blown dead…a penalty by rule for sure but the corniest most inconsequential facemask of all time

I totally get that…to me personally the bucs making it a game felt quite fluky and it wasn’t really ‘earned’ if that makes sense? Like I wouldn’t expect balls to be bouncing straight to our opponent all game/qbs miraculously keeping their knee off the dirt on pretty much guaranteed safeties every week if we are trying to extrapolate yesterdays outcome to future games. Baker did some superhuman sh*t to keep drives alive late and they got every break imaginable and still the closest they came was a Hail Mary that no receiver even really tracked is the flip side of the argument. also there’s no way we get that conservative with punts against a top offense, McDermott has been aggressive in those situations before so a lot of that decision making was bucs specific which is how it should be im hoping we don’t see that goal line shotgun run again after the blowback last night too but you never know 😂. I have more confidence that we’re not gonna go out and beat our heads against the wall trying the same things over and over after last night which is the first time I’ve had that rosy feeling in awhile lol if anyone’s saying…look how we played last night were def gonna beat the bengals and chiefs though I’d strongly disagree with that.. I think we’re back in the ‘it’s close to a coin flip’ scenario from ‘it’s a certain loss’ though

I mean they did lose to a much worse defense the week before and couldn’t do much of anything right haha is that not improvement? I can’t speak for the whole ‘there were a lot of positives last night’ side but I think it was a pretty firm step in the right direction and I have genuinely no idea if we’ll hang with the better teams. After the pats game though I was 100% sure we couldn’t. I’m honestly kind of glad we blew that goal line playcall in a game that we were very likely going to win anyway because hopefully we will not see it again 😂

For real.. I can see the criticism though because there’s no way for a viewer to know what benefit came from taking the timeout. But we’re def goin overboard with the pitchforks on this one. I’d kindly request people to turn them on not sneaking on short yardage situations/the goal line lol Idk how smart a play that was to be fair…took an absurd amount of luck to avoid an opi there and catch a ball that donked off a well positioned defenders helmet. That was not a high percentage play by any means Mike evans pushes off every play it is absolutely unreal…every time you see him no matter who he is playing. He shoved poyer down on the Hail Mary too lol

It definitely goes unheralded because mahomes overshadows all but that defense always comes up with huge plays in the playoffs too. Tough to beat when you’re at home in the playoffs and you’ve got that game changing potential on both sides

Assuming that’s sarcasm I completely agree 😂 it’s tough to tell sometimes around these parts lol

‘Coming down to a Hail Mary’ is still a ridiculous statement to me haha the jags absolutely dominated us and we had a shot at a hook and ladder play for the win does that mean we almost won? Literally every little bounce/break went the bucs way until the final moments and that’s the closest they came i have no problem with people being critical of things but there were objectively quite a few positives last night as well

If McDermott does anything right, it’s developing non defensive line defensive talent 😂. I’m all for criticizing the deficiencies but gotta give him some credit where it’s due too Lot of pretty ok/nothing special players have come here and had career turnarounds. A lot of mid/late round picks without much upside have turned into good players here. I hope that opening int from the pats game got him to take a good hard look into the looking defenders off aspect…he seemed to do a way better job with that last night. Felt like he’s been getting lazier with it over time and when he’s got a good route concept against a single defender he was just staring his guy down which led to a few route jumps this year

I wonder if they’re worried about a 30 yard strike in the middle of the field and then a spike…this is def fair criticism though

That’s certainly debatable at least and I can understand the other side of it…the way the second half went down I don’t personally see how the bucs could’ve scored two tds without hitting an obscenely unlikely deep Hail Mary attempt so I’d personally call that fairly comfortable but I could see why others would not a desperation last second play is how a lot of games end for a team that is controlling the game