Generic_Bills_Fan

Idk the full story here lol. Were you saying breece hall would be better than James cook last year or something? James cook went off down the stretch last year I’d say the jury is still very much out on that one. those guys went 1-2 in the ypc metric funny enough

That genuinely perplexes me haha cuz Mayer is a lot closer to ‘another Dawson Knox’ than Kincaid is as far as prototype goes. I’m curious if we would’ve even scooped up Mayer if Kincaid was gone…I’m thinking no but we’ll never truly know cowboys were in that exact position and didn’t pull the trigger

I don’t see how knox is really limiting Kincaids opportunities at all…I think he’s easily going over 500. Knox got pigeon holed into a blocking role a lot…Kincaid won’t be used that way. seems like we were hoping to be able to run a lot more 12 personnel with oj Howard last year but he just didn’t work out

They are nowhere near the same type of player before even having to get into a talent discussion lol and even if they did just draft a better Dawson Knox…so what? We were a mess in the red zone and on 3rd/4th and shorts all year last year. I don’t think a 5’9” wr is anything close to what we needed.

Jets and patriots seem to be screwing themselves potentially lol. Someone like josh Allen or mahomes can overcome a shoddy offensive line but I don’t think pushing 40 years old aaron rodgers has got the juice…they’re not really loaded up on offensive skill position talent either. Aarons pretty much in the same situation on the offensive side that he was in the first half of the season with gb last year before they got their OL sorted. Better defense but also more competitive teams to deal with. really weird first pick for the jets Pats made a pretty good pick but clearly the Steelers saw something with Gonzalez that they didn’t like so I guess we’re gonna see who’s right. They’re still playing catch-up from a dreadful round 1 last year though

The Beasley comparison makes sense to me given the context…if we go 12 personnel with Knox/Kincaid I don’t think you could possibly defend us in a base defense without creating a huge mismatch. that could help out the run game a lot as well as knox , who has been getting pooped on in this thread 😂, is a pretty solid run blocker

The takes are wild lol…bills had wildly inconsistent slot receiver play and struggled mightily in the red zone. I know a position group that could kill both those birds with one stone…..lol I think people are just very close minded with what responsibilities different positions have. Sure he’s a TE on paper but they could line him up at any wr position based on his skill set.

So weird that a fanbase that watched a full season of red zone struggles would even complain about drafting a good tight end let alone the best one

It makes me confused that people are upset we didn’t get a big target wr but we essentially did get a big target wr and they’re complaining about the pick 😂

I’m all for people feeling skeptical but he objectively isn’t even remotely close to the same type of player as Knox lol kincaid excels at finding space underneath which is an area where Dawson Knox struggles and he has ridiculous hands. Knox is more of a combo tight end that can stretch the field some. They complement eachother pretty much perfectly if you’re gonna run two TE sets…I think Kincaid will play a lot of slot wr though

Kincaid is a lot more versatile than simply labeling him a ‘TE’…he’s a much more gifted pass catcher/route runner than Knox. He could line up in the slot every play and never play ‘true’ tight end and he still provides a lot more value than anyone in that late run on wrs would have.

I feel like beane’s drafting success rate is comparable to the gms of the other contenders. There aren’t a lot of sure things when your first pick is late in the first. I think we got one today though

Big target with a slot receiver skill set could help a lot in the receiving game if the offensive line struggles also imo.

There’s no shot the cowboys weren’t taking Kincaid if he was available.

Someone’s gotta tell Pete you can have two tight ends on the field at the same time lol they went offensive bpa

Cincy had to absolutely bottom out to pull that off…so did the jets. Miami had to mortgage their future on tyreek who’s gonna hit the declining years pretty soon.

It was the offensive line…packers oline was absolutely awful early in the season and then they did a huge reshuffle and locked it down a bit. The jets don’t have world beaters at wr either

Favre went to a jets team with one of the best offensive lines in football though…multiple pro bowlers and a should be hall of famer. the current jets are very much not that on the OL. If they hold up there they could be great but there’s a pretty decent chance we see early last season Aaron rodgers/packers offense

Also they pretty much sold out to compete for the next 2 or so years. They could’ve used those picks to build a sustainably good roster

Same issues for the jets as the Russell Wilson broncos too…although the jets offensive line isn’t broncos bad lol

They got a lot for a guy that was clearly not gonna play for the packers regardless…rodgers injury aside they’re getting two seconds and a better first.

Terrible long term move though imo…still don’t think they’re going to get through the tough afc to the Super Bowl. Givin up a lot to be back to square one in a few years when they have no qb and have to extend a bunch of their young guys who have been playing well

Didn’t impact games in the regular season? I’m not sure what you mean. The front 7 took a nosedive with von out…I’m not sure how anyone can disagree with that point. We went from top 5 in the league in pressure rate to bottom 1/4th. jets outgained us, NE outgained us, Miami put up 400+ yards. Just because we won still doesn’t mean it wasn’t an issue. It was just masked by an easy schedule to close out the year.

Right lol that adds to my point but I thought that went without saying 🤣.

Team is built around disguising looks with our safeties and the 4 man rush and we lost von, Micah hyde and poyer was playing hurt. We would’ve gotten lit up on defense down the stretch by great teams in the regular season too there just weren’t any on the schedule