Generic_Bills_Fan

I mean this is semantics at this point…the ball did not get there when Godwin expected it or he completely lost it in the air.. from experience tracking a ball that’s way up there in a night game of baseball/football/whatever is harder than it looks my general point is it’s a stretch to say that Hail Mary almost worked when the guy getting the ball thrown to him had absolutely no idea where it was

I’ll have to watch again but I got the vibe that the bucs had 12 men or were lined up Offside and we snapped it to catch them…I don’t think it was a hard count or anything

He completely lost the football…timing seemed off on that whole play because baker absolutely moonshotted it lol this being pitched as close to a completion is wild to me. He was never at any point ready to catch that pass

Somethin silly happened there…someone on the bills whether it was morse or josh thought they caught the bucs Offside and that they had a free play

I mean that’s kind of the point of a naked bootleg lol everything needs to look like it’s flowing left. The pulling lineman on a normal bootleg play kind of tips your hand so it’s a pretty common staple to run them naked. Defender made a nice play clogging up the throwing lane and some plays you just have to cut your losses

The 3rd down play on the first drive could’ve been huge but it looked like the other receiver on that side of the field missed his pick to free diggs up and the defender made a nice one on one tackle.

I was just coming to say this…I’ve seen walk off wins on plays like that. Why not try it

It definitely matters…none of the receivers ever located the football…I’ve never seen anything like it. It was an absolute moonshot. people saying ‘we almost lost’ when not a single receiver anywhere near the football knew it was coming is making me chuckle looked like Godwin got completely surprised by it as it whizzed past him

Looked like he got a lot of single coverage looks in the second half…can’t blame the team for going to your best player in those situations. If the refs weren’t in ‘let’s keep this a game’ mode, diggs probably gets some of those holding calls I’d agree that under center goal lines runs are probably less successful but not sneaking it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Seemed like op was makin the point that an under center non sneak is just as bad if not worse than a shotgun run

Taron defended that play you’re talking about quite well it was just a great throw/catch. this Hail Mary criticism is laughable…no one on the field knew where the ball was because baker had to arc it 100 miles in the air since it was out of his range but we’re gonna continue this charade that we were close to giving up a td because it landed a few feet away from a receiver that never saw it? margin of error didn’t seem thin tonight, the ball bounced the bucs way every chance it got and we gave them two free first downs on 4th down yet the closest they came to winning was a 60+ yard pass that literally no one even attempted to make a play on

If you didn’t see this game as an improvement over the previous two I just don’t know what to tell you. The bucs defense is better than the giants and pats considerably and we got a lot of players involved on offense and let the bucs run themselves right out of the game

He might be talking about the penalties in the second half…they were absolute killers. We threw away a ton of good field position with ST penalties punting was outstanding

They weren’t playing cincy kc or philly…this is honestly the craziest argument lol if they were playing those teams they probably go for it

Ah my mistake then back to 0 excuses…I don’t even know what’s cute about a shotgun run on the goal line lol it’s not like it’s super creative or anything. Like a toss play to the outside under center is cuter than that and probably has an exponentially better chance of working

Evans pushed off big time on that play too and no call haha that’s really my argument for punting late…a ton went the bucs way and the closest they could conceivably come to winning with that bad field position most of the second half was a 1/1000 Hail Mary attempt where nobody even knew where the ball was

If anyone blew it tonight it was those holding penalties on the special teams and nobody will criticize it cuz of the punting/aggressiveness controversy haha offense was dominating the field position battle, the returns were always good too and the holds never looked super consequential. We threw away a lot of points on just ST penalties

I still really don’t understand that one…the only answer I’ll maybe accept is they were worried josh was banged up on a previous play. I will defend the punts all night long on this board but that shotgun run on the goal line is a real head scratcher. I can kind of understand it in other areas of the field because you don’t want to telegraph if a play is a pass or a run based on formations/substitutions but on the goal line I just can’t understand it

It’s a calculated risk that we all get to criticize with the power of hindsight. For instance, that pass attempt to a wide open knox to close out the giants game did not work out and everyone jumped all over it. Fairly aggressive play but very high percentage and we missed it

I’m not misunderstanding you at all I think you are grossly misusing ‘ballgame’. That Hail Mary was at the very edge of the range where baker could even reach…nobody could even locate it cuz it was in the air forever. That’s a 1/1000 type play and the way the bucs were mismanaging the clock late there was no way the game was going to end any other way. It was taking them far too long to move the ball. if you go for one/a few of those 4th and shorts and get stopped, then your defense that you don’t trust is defending one/multiple short fields and the clock is no longer a factor. Every one of those punts was the right call against a team like the bucs every single time and all of the punts were outstanding but we whiffed downing that final one deep

I don’t think you’re the savvy football fan you think you are if you weren’t a fan of that timeout before halftime…really incredible to me that everyone is supposedly smarter than mcd here and the one time he does something that a smart coach would do they don’t recognize it 😂

Decent shot!? Haha they complete that pass probably less that 1 in 100 tries…if you go for every 4th and short in the second half the bucs odds are much better than that. It’s a wild argument from fans that just wanted to see more offense…I understand where the sentiment is coming from but rational thought has left the building 😂. People think dropping 100 tonight would make them feel better about the games we lost but it doesn’t change the past

No it’s all if them not just the last…if it’s gonna take 8+ minutes for tb to punch in the td why would you want to risk giving them good field position? plenty of time lol how? they are vastly shortening a game that we were up two scores. A Hail Mary attempt that baker could only reach with the ball arced a mile in the air is hardly a ballgame…was us running a hook and ladder on the final play against the jags a ballgame? Y’all are just broken from a Hail Mary a few years ago clearly 😂. That play was not even close

People are out of their minds tonight…that Hail Mary was not even close lol it’s just about as far as you can get on a ball that made it to the end zone baker didn’t have the arm strength to get it there so he had to throw an absolute rainbow

Y’all are making it sound like a receiver had their hands on it or something lol this is the exaggeration of a lifetime…that Hail Mary might have been one of the furthest from being completed I’ve ever seen. Nobody even located the football to make a play on it

Board is off their rocker tonight imo with some of this…the timeout to close out the first half was actually really savvy. Tb wanted that fg attempt to close out the half with no risk of buffalo getting the ball back. the goal line run out of shotgun absolutely deserves to be criticized a receiver being 2 feet away from a Hail Mary is almost winning a game? Come on. No one even knew where the ball was on either team because it was an absolute duck lol