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That’s certainly debatable at least and I can understand the other side of it…the way the second half went down I don’t personally see how the bucs could’ve scored two tds without hitting an obscenely unlikely deep Hail Mary attempt so I’d personally call that fairly comfortable but I could see why others would not a desperation last second play is how a lot of games end for a team that is controlling the game

It made perfect sense because the ball is supposed to go to a spot that he is not in lol he’s hanging out trying to catch a tipped ball while other players try to high point it near the front of the end zone. Looked like the pass rush sped the throw up and the bucs weren’t in position…at first I thought Godwin just lost the football while he was tracking it but that does not look to be the case I really don’t get the pushback here lol this is literally textbook football 101 stuff. A completed Hail Mary is oftentimes a deflected pass and if you are launching the ball deep into the end zone you’re taking a lot of that away because you’ve gotta worry about balls getting deflected out of bounds y’all think they just wing it deep with no plan and pray and Godwin just happened to be facing backwards not looking for the football for no particular reason and we almost lost because a ball fell close to a guy that made 0 attempt to catch it? Lol come on now that’s even sillier than anything you think that you’re laughing at

They get thrown to a spot on the field lol not a specific player.. teams want to maximize how many guys have a shot at a ricocheted ball. Players all have predefined spots they’re supposed to be in the end zone to maximize their chance of catching a tip and godwin was late getting to his. You think they all just run around backyard football style? Lol makes no sense it’s a schemed up play like everything else…usually your taller players are up by the goal line jumping to high point the ball but they had mike evans deep in the end zone shoving people for whatever reason

You don’t? 😂. They get thrown to a spot and baker missed it. You think Godwin was just spinning around in the end zone for fun if he was supposed to be a primary target? Lol y’all are too much usually the ball is supposed to be closer to the beginning of the end zone so multiple receivers have a shot at a tipped pass i don’t remember the play you’re referencing but there’s a good chance it wasn’t actually a Hail Mary. People misuse the term Hail Mary literally all the time…every deep pass to close out a game is not a Hail Mary. When there’s as many offensive players committing interference as defensive, no flag is coming out period

Yea….no chance when Mike evans is shoving defenders in the back down there lol. Y’all are still broken from the hail Murray which wasn’t even really a Hail Mary so this whole thing is completely ironic 😂. Bucs would hit that play last night probably 1/1000 times. The area the football was supposed to go was very well defended and baker wildly missed so it ended up sailing by Godwin who was getting in position to catch a tipped pass and wasn’t ready for it.

I cannot disagree more strongly lol the only receiver in the area literally had no idea where the ball was. The way people are talking about this is such a ridiculous exaggeration from how it actually played out. there was a 0% chance that ball was getting caught. Godwin was likely not the initial target on that play and the pass rush/some defensive traffic prevented him from getting to his spot in time so he was completely turned around …the ball was likely supposed to hit a receiver closer to the start of the end zone and Godwin was camping out to catch a tipped ball.

Something went really wrong there haha I can’t argue with this criticism at all. The punts I’ll defend but snapping the ball there was a mess. I think morse thought he caught someone Offside and snapped it and josh wasn’t really ready for it but that’s just a guess

I really want to know if there’s some reason we don’t sneak that much…I can see a shotgun run vs an under center run from the goal line but there’s just no good reason not to attempt a sneak there so calling a shotgun run is ridiculous I think the choking bit is getting a little overblown in this one…it seemed like TB was content running the clock out on themselves and there’s no way they were gonna get any closer than a 1/1000 Hail Mary attempt if we played pretty conservative and pinned them deep in the second half multiple times. It wasn’t fun to watch but it was effective. that punt return in the jets game was absolute bollocks…there was a blatant trip on the 25 yard line but apparently only we commit special teams penalties 😂. That was the difference in this game for me and why it ended up pretty close when it shouldn’t have.we were absolutely dominating the field position game and just completely throwing it away on stupid ST penalties in the second half. Probably cost ourselves 80 yards of field position. We would’ve added on two more fgs at minimum despite trying to control the clock if we cleaned that up

Haha I love how the lead up to the game around here was ‘the bucs defense is actually good we will probably lose the game’ and then there was a meltdown anyway because we made some mistakes despite winning the game fairly comfortably

I’ve never seen mike evans not push off on a play it is getting ridiculous

He might have the best hands in the league

We’ve had calls helping us and hurting us all year and I’d say it’s evened out but tonight felt like the classic ‘organized crime has a huge bet on the bucs to cover’ type game 😂 like just the play you mentioned is an ejection let alone a penalty lol

I mean this is semantics at this point…the ball did not get there when Godwin expected it or he completely lost it in the air.. from experience tracking a ball that’s way up there in a night game of baseball/football/whatever is harder than it looks my general point is it’s a stretch to say that Hail Mary almost worked when the guy getting the ball thrown to him had absolutely no idea where it was

I’ll have to watch again but I got the vibe that the bucs had 12 men or were lined up Offside and we snapped it to catch them…I don’t think it was a hard count or anything

He completely lost the football…timing seemed off on that whole play because baker absolutely moonshotted it lol this being pitched as close to a completion is wild to me. He was never at any point ready to catch that pass

Somethin silly happened there…someone on the bills whether it was morse or josh thought they caught the bucs Offside and that they had a free play

I mean that’s kind of the point of a naked bootleg lol everything needs to look like it’s flowing left. The pulling lineman on a normal bootleg play kind of tips your hand so it’s a pretty common staple to run them naked. Defender made a nice play clogging up the throwing lane and some plays you just have to cut your losses

The 3rd down play on the first drive could’ve been huge but it looked like the other receiver on that side of the field missed his pick to free diggs up and the defender made a nice one on one tackle.

I was just coming to say this…I’ve seen walk off wins on plays like that. Why not try it

It definitely matters…none of the receivers ever located the football…I’ve never seen anything like it. It was an absolute moonshot. people saying ‘we almost lost’ when not a single receiver anywhere near the football knew it was coming is making me chuckle looked like Godwin got completely surprised by it as it whizzed past him

Looked like he got a lot of single coverage looks in the second half…can’t blame the team for going to your best player in those situations. If the refs weren’t in ‘let’s keep this a game’ mode, diggs probably gets some of those holding calls I’d agree that under center goal lines runs are probably less successful but not sneaking it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Seemed like op was makin the point that an under center non sneak is just as bad if not worse than a shotgun run

Taron defended that play you’re talking about quite well it was just a great throw/catch. this Hail Mary criticism is laughable…no one on the field knew where the ball was because baker had to arc it 100 miles in the air since it was out of his range but we’re gonna continue this charade that we were close to giving up a td because it landed a few feet away from a receiver that never saw it? margin of error didn’t seem thin tonight, the ball bounced the bucs way every chance it got and we gave them two free first downs on 4th down yet the closest they came to winning was a 60+ yard pass that literally no one even attempted to make a play on

If you didn’t see this game as an improvement over the previous two I just don’t know what to tell you. The bucs defense is better than the giants and pats considerably and we got a lot of players involved on offense and let the bucs run themselves right out of the game

He might be talking about the penalties in the second half…they were absolute killers. We threw away a ton of good field position with ST penalties punting was outstanding

They weren’t playing cincy kc or philly…this is honestly the craziest argument lol if they were playing those teams they probably go for it