Einstein's Dog

And those are the useless ones they leaked. Seems like Peterson went for a reasonable price, $4-5M, but the dorklike Dolphins put a crimp in the Bills value-hunting with the outrageous X Howard signing. May have set our time table back a little. CBs still out there: Rhodes/Nelson/Callahan, then Jenkins/Bouye/Haden/Sherman. Safe to say Beane has a price/value/hierarchy for these CBs.

Yes, Rhodes along w Nelson/Jenkins/Buoye/Callahan/Haden and Sherman. A lot for the FO to work through, talent and cost considerations.

Wow, a lot of CBs still available. I think the FO will be able to get a better vet than Levi for less than $4M now - Nelson/Sherman/Bouye/Rhodes/Haden (although it would be unusual for Pitt to let him go for cap reasons and then the Bills sign him for less than Levi)/and Jenkins. The article did not even include Bryce Callahan. P Peterson just signed for $4-5M, the price is dropping.

I don't think the plan changes. I think the plan remains get a vet CB and draft one. The drafted one should not be 1st round but may be if FO's top tier WRs are all taken. As for the vet CB, i would welcome Bryce Callahan. This is a good CB who isn't getting big money because of injury history. That scenario is a great fit here, have a very good CB for what you hope is at least the early part of the season and then Tre will be back.

I would be disappointed with McDuffie over J Williams or T Burks. Wouldn't mind B Hall or K Walker in the second though.

Seems short-sighted. FA is for the short term needs and the draft is for filling premium positions for the long haul. A first round WR pick would immediately occupy the Sanders spot for the next 3 years at least, that's been at least $6M a year. It also gives Josh/Dorsey some continuity. And has the potential to be a WR1 type player - which is not only expensive to fill but difficult to get. It would make the future a lot brighter. The pick does not have to be a top 10 receiver in the league to make the pick a success. That is a ridiculously high standard, especially in the WR market. If the draftee produce similar numbers to Sanders that would be a win. Also, intent matters. People here are already quoting stats of the poor offensive investment. I would like to see an end put to that.

I'm with you on the hope for a WR in round 1. Then the offseason offense adjustments are positive. Crowder>Beas, Saffold>Williams and hopefully round 1 draftee replaces (>) Sanders -and the long term benefits of stopping the revolving door there with a rookie deal are immense. I disagree on the childish McHardhead comment - this coach has been adjusting and improving each year. I worry about the quality of WR left at 25 though, the TSW draft showed an example tbat really hurt - the top 6 were gone. But most mocks show one of the top 6 there, so while risky i don't think they have to make a move. For the OP, if they do try and move up, I hope it's in maybe rounds 2-3. After getting a WR in round 1, I could see them really anxious to get a Kyler Gordon in round 2. And this would also be a good year to get another RB - maybe move up for Hall or Walker.

I think the next stage in Josh's development is with employing the no-huddle. Taking command and bringing the team to the line quickly, calling his own plays. Maybe doing that as a change of pace when he wants, to take charge of pace of game and personnel groupings. I don't think that will be taught by Palmer but I would like to see the Bills staff work on that as a natural part of Josh's progression.

I like it but the move is for WR. I think picking up another vet CB is in the works - Rhodes/Nelson/Haden. As the TSW draft showed, the top tier WRs have a huge runoff in the 5-8 spots right in front of us. Don't tell me Beane doesn't read the board.

Looking back I can see how there can be confusion. I think you need to disregard the ramblings of this billybrew and instead reference the page 2 tweet from Mike Garafolo - looks like a $4M + $1M incentive deal. If the FO can get a Rhodes or Nelson or Bradberry for around $4-5M, I think we would be looking at another GM of the year award for Beane.

Of course, there are good players taken at any round. But the earlier you take a player/position, the better the odds are the player will be good. I'm hoping the Bills take a WR in round 1. That a WR will be the BPA at a premium position of need. And for that to happen it needs to be in the top tier of their board. For me, the top tier are the top 6 that were taken in the TSW draft. And that scenario is one that I don't like because all the top WRs seemed gone and then I wouldn't blame the FO for going with a CB, just like what happened in the TSW draft. If things did happen like in the TSW draft where the top 6 WRs are gone and the BPA looks to be a CB, then there seems more pressure on round 2 for a WR. Hoping a Watson/Dotson or Moore are available.

Didn't seem like a lot of money to me - $4M is Levi Wallace money. Could be the market is drying up. Or maybe relative to Rhodes/Nelson/or Haden it was too much, or they just prefer one of the other remaining CBs. Getting a little tight though - kind of like when the market for the big pass rushers was thinning out. Beane has come through before.

G Pickens was already gone in the first in this mock draft. Would have liked him in the first if he was available (as pretty much the 6th WR to take). Certainly can't count on Pickens to be available in the 2nd. Would love the K Gordon pick in the 2nd, once again, if available.

That guy is a tough marker. And his rounds seem out of touch. If a WR is a good starter, that is not round 2 in my book - or in real life. It may be hard to get any of his top 5 - Burks/Wilson/Olave/London/Williams at the Bills pick at 25. I would feel great if the Bills were able to get any of those 5, and I also include G Pickens (though the author didn't like him as much). For me the hard decisions come if those WRs are all off the board - which happened in the TSW mock draft.

What? I've not seen a single mock with Hall going before 25. And plenty of mocks where J Williams/Olave/Burks/Booth/Gordon are still there.

Good point. But seems strange they might be able to get Trai for the same money as Bates. I think the $6.5 figure is a large overstatement, neither are worth that. The Bills either didn't think Bates was worth $4M, or thought no one else would think that. Anyway, $4M seems a lot for Bates. The Ike signing could be the cheaper backup they want to go along with the slightly more expensive vet. You pay more a little more for the experienced vet than Bates. Most FA signings are not deals. Pay a vet OL $4-5M, get another small upgrade, fill a hole prior to the draft. Still draft one in the first 4 rounds as a succession plan. Isn't Trai considered the best of the remaining FA guards?

If it's $6.5M, it certainly would make sense to quickly get offers out to those they feel are better, that are in the same area pricewise. For instance, $7-8M for a year or two of Trai Turner and draft a round 1-3 IOL is something you would think the FO is now mulling over. Need a decision quick though.

I don't want any QBs going Miami's way, Baker or especially Brady. Blockbuster is subjective, I wouldn't mind seeing Bradberry moved to the Bills. That would be blockbuster enough for me.

Most scenarios seem to conclude that we will be waiting until the last day to decide. One unfortunate problem is that there don't seem to be many good veteran choices that would be an upgrade. The poster I responded to was mentioning Chris Reed, who is not an upgrade. So turning down Bates even at an uncomfortable price would leave us with a hole to fill. IMO, getting Turner would be an upgrade. And the front office would want to know if they could get him at a price they have in mind before deciding on Bates. That would be the time constraint.

Along those lines it might be that the FO is weighing the amount for Bates vs putting an additional say $1-2M for starter level Trai Turner. The FO could be in frantic negotiations with Trai. Get that deal done before turning down Bates.

It will be interesting to see it play out. But I think it has to be more tempting now than before to find the extra money for a Patrick Peterson or James Bradberry. Maybe the holdup with Bates is he's within $2M of Trai Turner. So now that negotiation is being settled before they respond to Bates. Even if these moves are done we won't know if they were helped along by a change in the odds of winning it all. Seems reasonable they are planning a couple more moves, it's just now they may up the ante to the bigger fish - Turner/Bradberry/Peterson.

But then we would be saying how surprised we are that for a measly additional $1 million we could have added Trai Turner.

What? Why take one? So, we can replace Singletary next year. I'm not satisfied with Moss. I wish the discussion was about RBs that are there in the 3/4th. That should be our target zone. I would like to see the FO have a target in mind in the 4th, and maybe even trade up from the 4th to get him. Having 4th round picks as integral part of the team is a great strategy for long term success. Fill premium positions first - WR, CB, and then maybe IOL. Tyler Allgier, Brian Robinson, James Cook, Kyren Williams. One of these non-primma donna RBs that can be groomed w a year prep into the starting role.

Well Brady would have WRs - Hill/Waddle/Parker, RBs Edmonds/Mosert/Gaskin, TEs Gesicki/Gronk. For a QB that many think has been pretty much a game manager, he could have the opportunity to put up some pinball type numbers.

I've got to admit - this would suck. Brady then they add Gronk. Ouch - don't want to see this happen at all.