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3 hours ago, HOUSE said:
Now is not the time to fool around with an experiment hoping the next guy can do the job. This is a high powered offense and defenses around the NFL will come up with new strategy to stop it. There is a learning curve here, do you have the necessary patience ?
Sure you do.....😁, We are a very forgiving bunch here....
Enter a rookie OC.....Should I run or pass, how about a trick play, OMG !
Sorry Guys, I want an experienced OC with a proven track record. The Next guy needs to be an upgrade over Daboll, not a settled for rookie
Time is wasting away, the window won't be open forever...Rookie coaches are for expansion teams or bottom feeders, not a Superbowl Contender
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Dorsey, could be a great hire. He's our passing game coordinator, it appears he been groomed for the role. Allen himself said his career changed with his arrival.
My main concern is keeping continuity with the EP offense. There's not so many experienced EP Coordinators out there for hire, maybe Bill O'Brien.
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3 hours ago, MJS said:
The Patriots didn't completely replace their WR's or their RB's. Not sure why you are even saying that. They added pieces to those two groups for sure. They did sign two new TE's and also drafted a QB.
I am not saying the Patriots are terrible. I just don't think they are rebuilding. Bill Belichick has tried to maintain what he has while adding more offensive weapons because their offense has been devoid of talent for a few years, even when Tom Brady was there. They were an average to below average team last season and got themselves to an above average team this season, and a big part of that was getting opt out players back and yes, some of their signings and draft picks.
I don't think what Belichick did warrants anything close to an award, especially since a bunch of his signings underperformed.
They are not rebuilding. They are trying to maintain what talent they have and add more weapons (basically what every single other team is doing).
RBs with 20 carries or more in 2019:
Sony Michel 247, James White 67, Rex Burkhead 65... all 3 gone. Harris was a rookie played 2 games got 4 carries.
In 2021 it was Harris 202 and Stevenson 133 that carried the backfield. Stevenson a rookie. Harris played 2 games 4 carries on 19.
Their TEs were completely turned over. Watson and Lacrosse to Smith and Henry.
WR targets (10+) went from Edlemen 153, Dorsett 54, Sanu 47, Myers 41, Josh Gordon 36, Harry 24 and turned over to Myers 126, Bourne 70, Agholor 64, Harry 22.
Neverm8nd from Brady to a rookie QB in Jones.
Half the roster, half the snaps, and key players.
Stop letting your patriot hatred blind you. They rebuilt in 1 year, made the playoffs, and we smoked them. Bills team is superior to them, they are no threat...
Just because they didn't nuke the org like the Bills used to do every 3 years doesn't mean they didn't rebuild.
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3 hours ago, Greg S said:
Look how close Rousseau was to getting an INT.
If you pull it up on YouTube Rousseau had his arms up above his head to deflect the pass and Mahomes hummed it by his body in the arm pit area. With the velocity he had on it too he's not going to pick it. Mahomes saw him all the way and purposely threw around him.
Good play by Rousseau, just a special throw by Mahomes.
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Don't forget that Antonio Williams is going to start 16 games for the New Jersey Giants. 🤣
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Just now, Alphadawg7 said:
Oh stop. Don't say "I don't think he did" while at the same time floating he might have.
This is an absurd line of discussion. You do realize Kelce was mic'd up and called his own route change based on Fraziers defensive call and Mahomes confirmed the change at the LOS before hiking it right yelling "Do it Kelce, Do it"?
So wouldn't that mean Frazier would have had to been in cahoots with Kelce, otherwise how could he know Kelce would audible his own route to exploit the formation? I mean how could Frazier give them a gimme if he wasn't aware Kecle was going to change his route to take advantage?
Oh wait, I got it...thats why Kelce was "mic'd up" because Frazier was tapped into his hot mic being they were in cahoots! Thats it. Nailed it. 🙄
Critical thinking, risk management, and controls not a strong point with you it seems...
Controls are not accusations. Controls are in place to limit risk and capture activity you are trying to limit.
If the league has controls in place for auditing/ investigating games in regards to potential behavior in relation to gambling, the coaching staff's actions and decisions were so poor and so horrible it would trigger the control.
I don't think he threw the game. But the decision making is so horrible and so blatantly terrible if you had a control for investigating a coach for throwing a game you would be looking at this.
The defense called was so horrible and was the only reason KC had any chance what so ever. It was downright negligent.
I don't think the game was thrown. I just think the coaching staff was negligent.
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Just now, SCBills said:
We’re not firing McDermott.
Do we know that was his call? I think he had to be involved, of course, but is McD calling the timeouts to give Leslie a look or is he taking them and then deploying his own defensive call usurping Frazier?
Regardless, Frazier isn’t changing his stripes and his defense doesn’t work against good teams, even with the talent he has.
Telling these dudes to listen to McDermott and Frazier again this off-season/next year would have me roll my eyes at times as a player. You can’t tell me they didn’t lose some semblance of trust in that locker room…
If McDermott as a defensive head coach called TOs prior to each of those plays and didn't have control over what we were doing defensively, that's even more reason to fire him. Of course it was his call. It's his call to make what they do there, he's the head coach. If he's not making the call that's worse lol
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1 minute ago, MJS said:
Significant roster turnover happens every year for almost every team. Especially bad teams. That doesn't mean they are all undergoing a full rebuild.
What team didn't add receivers, TE's, and RB's? What team didn't add defensive starters?
How many playoff teams drafted a QB and completely replaced their WR, TE, RBs and made the playoffs this year?
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4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Legit question: Did you take any classes, or study, read a book or anything on how to come up with terrible hot takes and utter nonsense? Its uncanny with you. One after another. Thread after thread.
If you don't think the NFL should take any due diligence for games in regards to gambling now that it is legalized, then you are just sticking your head in the sand. Players and refs in professional sports have been caught even before it was wide spread legalized.
Like I said, I don't think he did and I am not saying he did. But the handling of the game was so poor in that 13 seconds that if the NFL did investigate/ audit players and coaches that performance would trigger a closer look, it was that bad. That horrible.
Not everyone grabs a pair of pom poms and mindlessly heaps praise at the team.
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3 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Definitely not intentionally thrown, but that a player thinks what McKenzie said - out loud - is just so damning. If Frazier doesn’t get a HC gig and we keep him, I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibilities that some players tune out the coaching staff. ….like an ex-Vikings player said they did in Minnesota.
But that's McDs call at the end of the game, not Frazier. McD called the TOs and that's his say what we do. And after the first 20 yards he didn't change it up, went right back to the well.
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3 minutes ago, TBBills said:
I want a DC that never uses prevent defense.
That's the head coach's call at the end of the game there, he called a TO and pulled them together too. That's McDermott.
But yes, I agree, dump him.
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Slowest? You see how fast we blew that game? 13 seconds! Find me another coaching staff that could do that!
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41 minutes ago, MJS said:
Compare that to basically any other team in the NFL and it will be similar.
Every other team lost the best QB in history, spent a first round pick on a QB, and got all new WR, TE, and RB? Wow. Plus a new defensive leader. Wow.
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For anyone that wants to skip to the 13 second comments listen to 14:00 - 19:00.
He said players got no explanation and he couldn't believe what happened. He even said something along the lines of "I couldn't believe they got that many yards soo quick, then I look at the defense and I'm like oh yeah, that's why."
Now I am not saying the game was thrown, I'm not saying that, but considering the legalized gambling and how huge it is, if there ever was an instance the league would investigate/audit a coach for throwing a game just from a due diligence and integrity stand point this would be it -- it was that mind boggling bad you have to question if it was intentional.
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8 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:
Tyrod was hurt. He was concussed
That's right! He was forced out. Still the entire Peterman debacle for those 2 seasons was just bafflingly awful. I still can't believe we went into the season with him as the starter the following year.
He started 4 games, in those starts he completed 52% for 335 yards (84 yards per game), with 1 TD and 10 INT on 91 pass attempts (11% int rate).
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20 minutes ago, MJS said:
That's not the definition of a rebuild. To be rebuilt your team has to be torn down. Nothing about the Patriots team was a tear down.
Only 28 players this year were on that team in 2019, they had 63 guys play for them in 2019... 49% of total snaps were players that were on the team in 2019... their turnover included their QB, leading rusher, leading receivers, and top defender.... I say that's a pretty significant rebuild. Especially considering they moved on from Brady.
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3 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:
Sigh, this again. Ok, let's break it down.
Loss 1 - Overachieving season with Tyrod Taylor at QB. We weren't even supposed to be there.
Loss 2 - Another overachieving season, still rebuilding, with a "not yet good" Josh Allen, and pre-Diggs. Got screwed by refball in OT. Backbreaking penalty against Bills ends up being used as example of the definition of a legal play.
Loss 3 - Battered and bruised AFC championship game. WR corps were a walking MASH ward playing with all manner of injuries including fractured bones.
Loss 4 - Legendary slugfest against another offensive juggernaut in what was expected to be a close game, regardless of venue. Bad defensive playcalling at end of game leads to getting screwed by outdated OT rules (coin flip).
Win 1 and 2 - Still figuring out this whole "being good" thing, squeeking by good teams with flaws.
Win 3 - Absolute roflstomp on a highly overrated team we already stomped the month before. Narrative in this game was more about the false narratives about our team coming INTO this game.
Sure playing at home would be nice, but clearly you seem to be the type who only reads headlines and box scores, and doesn't read the whole article to get the context.
L1 - vs Blake Bortles Jaguars, he threw for under 100, Fournette ran 21 for 57, and McDermott's odd obsession with one of the worst QBs in history continued as he plugged Peterman in who threw a pick on only 3 passes. 10-3 loss.
L2 - Bills had the game solidly in hand at half time, winning 16-0 in dominant fashion. He then got insanely over the top conservative, packed the offense in, played for FGs and the Bills squandered the game away getting outscored 19-3 in the second half before losing in OT.
L3 - We go up 9-0, McDermott again is too conservative on offense... down 21-9 we kicked a FG from the 2 yard line! Down 24-12 we kick a FG from the 8! Horrendous defensive strategy letting Kelce/Hill run free all game with zero adjustments made, so bad the commentators were calling the Bills out circling the screen all game saying well no one on Kelce again this is going to him you can't do this... Hill had 172 yards, Kelce had 13/118... the rest of the KC team had 35 yards... no adjustments made just plain vanilla, sit and watch get shredded as we kick two FGs from KC 2 and 8 squandering a 9-0 head start.
L4 - Historic coaching collapse in final 13 seconds wastes one of the greatest QB postseason in the history of the NFL.
In each and every one of these games the Bills had the lead and pissed the game away. The lead in every game.
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The fact of the matter is Allen was playing at a level that is rarely ever done and coaching failed him. We don't know if we will get that historic level of play from him again, guys get on a tear and you need to take advantage of it like the Joe Flacco super bowl run. Allen will continue to play at a high level but his quality of play was other worldly and we wasted it.
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1 hour ago, TBBills said:
No and why would you post it here... you are doing exactly what they want you to.
Bill Belichick doesn't go out of his way to talk to other teams players but he did twice with Josh... that's all you need to know... "especially coaches" no the coaches know he is special.
You got trolled and lost.
He told Josh: if you get tired of this bum as your head coach let me know, I'll get over here and we'll win more super bowls together than Brady did.
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3 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:
Why is McDaniels still a hot candidate? The ***** has he done recently?
5 super bowl rings and just coached a first round pick to the best rookie season of the draft despite being viewed as firmly before 3 others.
Not saying I think he'll be good, especially given the track record of BB assistants, but he's been very successful.
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2 minutes ago, Augie said:
I think that makes him in charge of orange slices at half time.
It’s a great gig if you can get it!
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I ain't no juice box guy!
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1 hour ago, wagne591 said:
I was wondering if the Bills invite someone to camp...maybe a former coach who has experienced the stress of game situations to drill McDermott on a daily basis? I know McD always says he will look at the tape and figure out what we can do better and he has always said that but the results aren't showing up on the field and in crunch time.
- It seems like he holds on to TO's for situations where the TO's could be better used to defuse or settle down situations (like maybe that kickoff with 13 seconds left to make sure "trust but verify" Bass had the plan if there was any doubt and to talk a little longer with the D to ensure all are on the same page)
- Or McD says well we thought about doing that (like holding the receivers once to kill 5 of the 13 seconds)
- Or just practice strategies with a former coach who has been in his shoes?
The reason i say training camp because I feel like the coach for McD can bring up the situations when McD is not ready for them or doesn't know they are coming and he can give his answer.
Also has anyone ever heard of a football team having a game manager on the sidelines instead of a coach like in baseball. Someone who just manages the game? I didn't want to take anything away from McD but it might be nice to have a game manager sitting next to him during the game to be feeding him information and communicating with the Analysts instead of McD doing it. That is not a knock on McD just a way to take some off McD's plate. Thoughts...
So let me get this straight... he's hands off the O, D, and ST because he trusts his Coordinators... now he needs a game manager for him... remind me again what exactly he's doing?
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1 hour ago, extrahammer said:
All your hairsplitting is cool and all, but the facts are as an NFL HC he's made the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years, one of those years without Josh Allen. His record in the 1st 5 years as an NFL HC is pretty identical to Reid and Belichick.
To say he's never going to win a ring at this point in the road is pretty short-sighted IMO. Are you saying he's just gotten insanely lucky these last 5 years? I mean, that's some luck if so. And if that's what you're saying, I'd still ride this luck lightning of his! ⚡
I never said the last 13 seconds were managed correctly, but I don't think that alone is what cost us the game. I don't think Jerry's logical in calling McD a choke artist either. And I have noticed Jerry has made more attempts at sensationalism since he left the Buffalo News, and he's clearly done it to try to remain relevant.
Hairspitting? Jeez dude, you get a concussion shoving you head in the sand that hard?
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Just now, FLFan said:
No, I am not off my meds, just using my brain.
I am not sure what this conversation has to do with MacKenzie, but OK. Clearly a whole different set of issues there, but sorry to confuse you.
The very last time Antonio Williams played and was effective was the final game of the 2020 season against a Miami team that had clearly given up. He was not productive in preseason this year and was not productive when he was active. He did not play because he is not very good. Your opinion is half baked at best. Do you have any actual facts to back up your half baked opinion?
As far as signing him first day on the job, look around. Every team is signing their bottom of the roster, future practice squad guys at this time. Every team. The bills are obviously moving on from a guy who has not been able to make an imact in spite of two years of opportunity. Maybe he can impact the Giants, who are not remotely close to the Bills in terms of established talent. The Bills will have plenty of new camp fodder for fans to drool over next year.
Now, if you have any rational argument to make to any of that, with actual facts not half baked opinions and insults, have at it.
Otherwise, go rev up your black helicopter somewhere else.
The point of McKenzie is pretty obvious. You were mocking the fact that the coaching staff would not play a guy that should be playing. And McKenzie is a prime example of a guy put in the dog house who should have been on the field.
Williams has better size and measurables than both Moss and Singletary, that's a fact. He looked noticeably explosive in 2020 as a result. He got 7 carries this preseason so don't act like he got a chance and failed.
Fans wanted him to get a shot at a position of need. He didn't get it.
Our assistant GMs very first signing on his very first day was to get him.
Yes, that's eye opening. It doesn't mean he's a star but it certainly means Shoen like him a lot much like the fans did and perhaps he didn't play because coach didn't like him... like McKenzie.
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2 hours ago, extrahammer said:
It means opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one. It means there must be a reason he hasn't had an NFL opportunity in a long time, nor has he ever held tenure during a very successful team, outside of being with the Patriots for a year in 2014. It means he's a personality, or clickbaiter. He alongside a mob of people are only focusing on those 13 seconds because that's sexy to do. In reality, when the Bills, the Chiefs, or any opponent we face next year reviews the tape on us, they're going to review the other 59 minutes versus those 13 seconds.
The takes that focus on those 13 seconds trying to quantify McD as a "choke" artist, like Jerry's, are insulting your intelligence because a similar scenario happened in 2018 with Belichick, considered the smartest and most evil mind in football, yet the main differentiator is NE won the coin toss in OT. You didn't see media outrage questioning Reid's ability, because Reid has been around a lot longer and he's a fat lovable coach who likes to make chocolate cake analogies. McD is a 5th year HC, is more quiet, Tim Tebow type personality, so he's not as likable. Lombardi worked with the Patriots for a short time. He's always critical of the Bills, just like Jerry has built his name on it.
The reality is, the Bills lost not only because of 13 seconds in the game, they lost because Tyreek Hill outran our entire defense that flipped the momentum, Kelce had enough experience to read and communicate a seam, we called offensive plays that didn't play to our strengths in the 1st half, we didn't try to expose KC's best cover man being out, and we lost a coin toss. 5 or more other factors could have won us the game too.
Well that 13 seconds was more than just 1 moment and it was one of the all time greatest NFL collapses by a coach. First the kick, then the first play, then the second play, with time outs and preparation for each one, didn't even change up his look and deployed one of the only strategies that could ever allow that to happen. Colossal implosion that will be remembered forever.
Then we were 0-6 in one possession games this year.
Then in last year's playoffs we deployed a horrendous defense that even the commentators were calling out for letting Hill and Kelce run free all game and made zero adjustments just rolled over (he never learned from this as this is the same exact mistake he made in the 13 seconds this year). He also was ultra conservative on offense costing us.
Then vs Houston the year prior after being up huge at the half with the game in hand he inexplicably packs in the offense and chokes the game away.
The first time we made the playoffs we weren't expected to go far, but we got matched up vs the Blake Bortles Jaguars and lost 10-3 when Bortles threw for under 100 yards and Fournette ran 21 times for 57... in the game McDermott yet again turned to the horrific Nate Peterman who threw 3 passes and a pick, as McDermott's odd obsession with one of the worst QBs of all time continued.
Oh and don't forget he has the worst career record in challenges in the entire league... 6 for 23 in 5 seasons. WOOF.
McDermott has been in the league 21 years and hasn't won anything. No rings. And he'll never get one.
He made some great contributions while the team was building but this team is so beyond his caliber as a coach, over his head and out of his league.
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What would you like to see from next years offense/ new OC?
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Someone that will also work well with Sean Payton in 2023.