Chaos

after today, they have played the same number

I wish people would just admit the Jets defense is mediocre. Their offense scores 10 points a game, and opposing offenses barely try.

the level of effort in so many games this season, looks like preseason.

The last time I saw such a ridiculous play in a Jets game, was an overtime game, where the Jets returned a punt for a TD to win the game.

Saleh should be fired at half time.

Excellent Excellent post.

The Jets offense blows in every way an offense can blow

Tua has really regressed.

Saleh is just sticking it to the Bills

Lots of people worked yesterday, yet they had games. Don't take in personal. Most people have or took today off.

Jets defense is over rated. Their numbers are gift of other teams knowing they only need 17 points to win the game.

Hackett really lives a path of despair in his wake. Jets need to put Wilson in. Wilson sucks, but Boyle looks like a high school QB out there.

this game blows.

I want McDermott to win the Super Bowl this year. But If they don't advance past the divisional round of the playoff game, it is quite reasonable to say he had 6 years (a very long NFL coach tenure for someone who doesn't get past the divisional round of playoffs) and is not owed any further opportunities to try. As an aside, the Bills have become perenial playoff contenders because Tom Brady left New England and Josh Allen arrived in Buffalo. It has very very little too do with the Bills coaching staff.

Tomlin and Harbaugh are given the benefit of the doubt by their organizations because they have won super bowls. Doug Pederson will happily explain that sometimes even that is not enough. Ask yourself, who helped their team more, Steelers and Ravens hanging on to their coaches indefinitely, or the Eagles making a change. I am sure different people will answer that question differently, just pointing out the Bills are hardly facing a unique decision.

this completely misses my point. the runner up did better than 30 other teams. The two teams that lost in the championship games did better than 26 other teams etc. etc. Winning the offseason is of very little consequence, if it does not translate into winning games during the season. And also if you win the Super Bowl, you did the best overall job that year. Full stop.

Apologies for being a broken record. Credit to a GM should be solely based on wins and losses. For example, the worst draft move in recent memory is niners trade up and selection of Trey Lance. But if the niners go on to win a Super Bowl, that pick matters not.

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Kindaid is a star

The champion is the he best team.

It seems most logical, that if FA cornerbacks or FA WRs or FA Pass Rushers cost a fortune, that you draft those positions as a priority. It also seems logical to draft the best player available. It also seems logical to fill in roster holes. Finding the balance between all of those items seems like the actual drafting challenge. I think for example we all agree QB is the highest positional value. If the clear BPA at our draft position was also a QB, presumably we would not draft that QB, but would try to trade out of the position. I use this example to point out that even if BPA and Positional Value collide, it may not always be the optimal pick (Although I am certain it would almost always be). The following are true: Every NFL GM knows more about football and football players than I do. Every NFL HC knows more about footbal and football players than I do. Every NFL scout knows more about football and football players than I do. NFL GMs, HCs, and scouts have dramatically more data and information than I do to use to evaluate players. The only thing I can do is observe the decisions the experts make and draw conclusions about what works and doesn't work. The funny thing is it very simple to identify which team had the best combination of decisions each year. In February they hand that team the Lombardi Trophy. I assume every GM and HC have a vision for the best roster they can practically build. I think as an observer of results, one can also have their own vision of what is ideal. Until the first two rounds of this years draft, I have not really felt like Beanes/McDermott's vision of the roster aligned with my own observation what seems to be most consistent with hoisting the Lombardi Trophy. From observation is seems as though the Bills vision was to build the ultimate "bend don't break" defense, and rely on Josh Allen to carry the offense (this is one of the reasons Allen is the all-time record holder for TDs, for the amount of time he has been in the league). This vision served the team very well in the regular season and not as well in the playoffs. Was Kincaid the best player at his draft position? Was Torrence the best at his position? Don't know, Don't know. I loved both picks. The fit my personal vision. Did they improve the team? The 6-5 record suggests maybe not. At least for this year. My emotional response to their performance is they have been great picks. But until their are wins to support my emotional response, I have to say I don't know. Shifting back to your positional value. Most people would say all of the following were great draft picks: Yet, in terms of wins and losses, none are successful picks. Your specific criticism of the Gibbs pick is certainly supported by this. However, if the Lions go on to the championship game this year I would be willing to accept that the Gibbs pick fit what they wanted to do, and it worked. If they stumble and miss the playoffs, then I would say their draft was probably not very good. A bit of a ramble. A really long way of saying, I am not sure you can parse out variables in the draft that actually directly connect to winning championships (beyond landing the elusive great QB).

Its a team game. Did these selections move the team forward as much as altnernative selections that could have been made? ( I don't know the answer). People freak out about best player available which then assumes all of these BPA's eventually jell into the best team. But NFL careers are fleeting. Some positions might be better filled with free agents in a given season. The BPA's may not have complimentary skills. The BPA's may not have great chemistry. Drafting for "depth" or the "future" assumes a future that may never develop do to injuries or other factors. The lions seem to be better than last year. I have no idea if Campbell and Gibbs are any part of the reason they are better. But if they made the team better then I don't think they are "bad" picks.

This is a tough matchup for the Bills. The season likely hinges on this game. If they win, the season likely hinges on the following game. And so on and so on.

The price tag is absurd. What was your favorite place?

I suggested that and posted a link to a recipe on the first page of thread. An excellent sandwhich.