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You missed my point. The defense forced one punt and allowed 38 points. We are going to lose almost every playoff game that happens. This also means the offense started in bad position evey possession. The bigger gap between the chiefs and bills is on the defensive side of the ball. Lastly. Not sure the bills were figured out. They lost Moss. Beasley Davis and Brown were all gimpy coming into the game and after the illegal body slam on Diggs his effectiveness was reduced.

The Bills were less limited in the playoffs than 28 of the 32 other NFL teams. Is the goal to build an offense that scores more than 38 points in playoff games? historically speaking that is a tall order.

Seems like the KC offense won the championship yesterday.

Do people really think McDermott "groomed" the 61 year old Frazier? I think McDermott will try to hire a replacement who is similarly qualified.

If I am Leslie Frazier, part of me wants to tell the defense to "sweep the toe".

& journalistic accuracy. Likely removed because it was false.

He got the Mahomes rate, a big discount to the normal days missed rate. It is all in the hair cut.

Brown's best game was when their HC stayed home. They lost to the Chief in the playoffs because of poor coaching.

Haskins arm is nothing like Josh's.

Chiefs like their old retread

The poster I replied to, said "there was no chance Browns or Cards would part with Mayfield or Murray". I Watson is as good as you believe, then they would of course trade Mayfield or Murray. Lots of speculation on Jets and Fins. Darnold & Tua have not even proven they are legit NFL starters. Houston needs to come up with some hope. Murray or Mayfield provide some hope.

I said that as a possibility earlier in the thread.

If Watson is truly at another level it would be insane for Cleveland and Arizona to pass on the opportunity. You carved out 7 teams. Now you are up to nine. Put it in a historical perspective. Carson Palmer was a very good QB for the Bengals. His career overlapped Brady, P. Manning, B. Rothlisberger & Drew Brees. At any point in Palmers career if one of those 4 QBs had a huge fallout with his team and came on the market, the Bengals would have beem willing to part with Palmer and other compensation to get one of the "Big four". You can't have it all ways. Murray, Mayfield and Watson are either all similar interchangeable talent levels "Franchise QB" or Watson is on a different level than Murray and Mayfied. If they are all on the same level, than Watson with his fat contract is an albatross. If Watson is in the elite of the elite level, than both teams would be wise to part with their Carson Palmer equivalents and get a big four equivalent. It comes back to the same thing. Watson is very good, he is not elite.

If Watson is top 4 or 5, why are you up to 9 teams that would not trade for him because their current QB situation is better. I think the answer is pretty clear. He is not top 5 , and his contract is top 2. Texans are screwed. Put it another way, Browns & Cards would swap for Mahomes or Josh in a heart beat. Watson is far behind.

He is simply getting the Mahome's rate for a concussion, no missed games. Also available to Aaron Rodgers. And oddly Jake Fromm. No one else.

I will accept your premise that Watson is a top 5 QB, and carve out the seven teams you mention. Texans have two related problems, an unhappy QB and cap hell. Teams looking to rebuild may not want to have a QB that brings such a huge cap impact, if they have no other pieces in place. Texans need to get something in return of value. The ideal landing place is a team with the pieces in place but not a top 5 QB. Your current list of 7 teams with a top 5 QB, seems like a full list. I don't really know all the teams cap situation or existing draft capital other than their native position in the upcoming draft. But lets review each team: AFC West Chiefs - carved out Chargers - Carved out Broncos - No QB, not sure what the Broncos could give to the Texans of value Raiders - Credible QB, Watson makes them an instant competitor to the Chiefs. Is there some package of picks and Derek Carr that could appeal to a new regime in Houston? Carr does not fit mode of burn everything down, some picks and Carr could allow the Texans to field a decent team. Getting rid of Carr would seem to mean the Raiders have some room to absorb the Watson cap hit. AFC South Almost impossible to imagine a trade to a division rival. Titans could give Tannehill (decent contract) & a lot of picks to match Watson with Henry & their receivers. Titans would arguably become the best offense in the NFL following such a deal. Texans fans would probably die en masse is such a thing occurred. Colts - not sure they have a package to make the Texans near term competitive Jaguars - carved out AFC North: Browns: Mayfield on his contract for Watson on his contract may make sense for both parties. Browns get a huge upgrade at QB (based on the premise Watson is in the top 5). Texans get a QB who is very good and young and with a more favorable contract situation. Given the weapons the Browns have could toss in a first rd pick. Steelers : Nothing to give Ravens: Lamar is too weird of a QB to trade for. He is not going to be cheap shortly. Bengals: carved out AFC East: Bills : not looking to downgrade at QB, so no. Patriots: pats might be able to part with 3 number ones, given their past history of winning with a top QB using unheralded backs and receivers. Not sure on the Pats cap situation: Dophins: Tua and a bunch of picks is less attractive to me than Mayfield and first. Tua may not last as a starter in the league. Jets: Darnold and a bunch of picks for Watson is not attractive to me for a top 5 QB. To me out of the AFC, Baker Mayfield is the most logical person who could be moved for Watson. Both teams come out Ok. NFC West: Seattle : Carved out Los Angeles: Can't afford Watson without dumping Goff, would have to give up many many picks to dump goffs contract on the texans. Seems too complicated. But A top 5 QB and Sean McVay seems formidable, might be worth pursuing. Arizona: Very similar to the Browns analysis. Reuniting Watson with Hopkins adds drama, and gets Watson out of the AFC. Not sure if I prefer Murray or Mayfield. But Texans help themselves getting Watson out of the AFC. San Francisco: I don't want Jimmy G & his contract. Not sure how niners work themselves out of the situation to give anything of value to the Texans and absorb Watsons contract. NFC South: Saints : Team is built to handle a big contract. They could probably afford to give up the most picks of virtually any team and remain a contender. As a new coach I would rather have Mayfield or Murray, than expect I will find one to draft in the foreseeable future. Buccaneers: Texans would not likely want to rebuild with a 44 year old expensive QB. Bucs cant handle both contracts. Panthers: Just random picks Falcons: Similar to Bucs, can't see the Texans wanting to start again with Matt Ryan NFC East: Dallas: Dak for Watson? Dak plus a first for Watson? I would much rather have murray or mayfield than prescott. Prescott seems like a JAG to me, i might rather roll with picks. Giants: Giants with Watson become an NFC powerhouse almost overnight. They can give a guy that is not much of a drop off to Prescott in Jones. Plus could probably give up a pile of picks. They have cap space. Washington: Watson is a great fit for WFT, but not sure what the Skins really have to give in return. Eagles: Unless you have some miracle plan to revitalize Wentz, not sure anything can work. Multi-team trade: Watson to Eagles, Wentz and four firsts to the Colts in exchange for a bag of peanuts, Colts send the four firsts to the Texans. This would not work for the Colts. This unloads the Wentz contract allowing the Eagles to absorb Watson, Wentz ends up with the Colts, for the price of absorbing his crap contract. Texans get four firsts. If I am the Texans and a new regime, I don't want to spend a decade looking for a solid starting QB after having a top 5 guy who is 25 on my roster. It seems to me that the Mayfield or Murray Option plus picks addresses the situation from a Texans perspective. And if Watson is really top 5, then he is a clear upgrade for either the Browns or Cardinals.

The award is a marketing concept primarily. Last year Myles Garret uses a helmet as a weapon to hit a helmetless player. This year he is proposed as WP player of the year. The actual Walter Payton was a great guy who did things before the award was invented. I applaud the players for doing good works. Most likely would without the recognition. But from the NFL perspective is mostly a marketing tool.

1. I am not a huge Watson fan. I don't think he belongs in the same conversation as Mahomes or Allen. 2. I was impressed by Herbert this year. Burrows also before he got hurt. Neither is yet in the same conversation as Mahomes or Allen, but maybe someday. 3. Not sure the rookie contract window is four years from now in real life. Mahomes & Watson signed their extensions after their third season. Allen is expected to this year. If Hebert is on this same level his window is two more cheap seasons, not four. 4. If you write off the 2021 season, then the cheap QB window could be as short as one competitive season. The analysis really comes down to this question? Who better allows me to compete with the Mahomes led chiefs for the next 10 years, Herbert or Watson. Rookie contract windows aside, I think the answer is Herbert. But for discussion purposes, if the GM truly thinks Watson is a top 3 NFL QB talent over the next decade and will join Mahomes & Allen to create the new version of the Brady/Manning/Rothisberger rivalry. And the GM sees Herbert as more in the Carson Palmer category (nice QB, long career, but not quite elite), then you might consider making the trade. Given the Chargers history of giving up Brees to go with Rivers, this might be impossible to do. Flip the script, if you were the Washington Football team, would you trade Chase Young to the Texans for Watson? If you were the Giants, would trade Daniel Jones & your 2021 first rd pick for Watson? If the answer to the these questions is no, then what level of compensation would anyone give up for Watson?

Charity is its own reward. Or it’s not really charity. Not something worth being concerned with.

Who do you think gives the Chargers the best chance to win in 2021 with a new HC, Watson or Hebert ? In Buffalo the chance to win in 2021 is clearly better with Josh.

I would not do if I was LA. But depends where you see yourself vs Mahomes. I am not a big Watson fan, but more people seem to put him up there as in the discussion with Mahomes. Hebert may get there, but he may not.

The goal is to sell tickets. Winning games & contending every year does that. Championships are gravy.

Houston would decline Hebert for Watson might be interesting.

Josh is straight up Miyagi-Do. So is Mahomes. Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Mayfield are all cobra kai. The bold should be corrected to "The chargers line & weapons are several years ahead of the Bills in Josh's rookie year, allowing for a good statistically performance.

68% of NFL players are not Caucasian. 83% of the world population is not Caucasian. So maybe Daboll is in the minority.