Chaos

Mitchell/Josh are tied for second at -19. Silverman/Discount Double check lead at -26

I think it is the fans who get stuck emotionally. NFL football is a game where everyone has to follow the same rules. Some people are just better at the game than others. For example, this is the Rams situation Sean McVay walked into in 2017: He is good at football coaching, 2 NFC Championships and 1 Super Bowl during his first four years. This followed a thirteen year playoff drought, and without the benefit of an elite QB. Zac Taylor came into this situation following 15 years of Marvin Lewis Mediocrity. He appeared in two AFC championship games his first four seasons winning one. Bills had so many horrible coaches, that some people actually think the standard NFL new hire is simply horrible, and that is nearly impossible to have a good hire. The Bills history skews the thinking. I don't know that a McDermott replacement would be better, but I would be shocked if the results were worse, as long as Josh Allen remains healthy.

At the one hundred vote count, my initial assessement of evenly split was pretty close. Based on on votes its closer to a 60/40 split.

L.Jackson is not getting that number.

People will have hard time understanding a tennis to football analogy. But the Bills defense is like a great baseline player who can out rally most opponents but can't ever beat the top serve and volley guys. The are definitely a consistent top 25% of the league team.

His game against the Vikings may have put him in a position to Rob Johnson either the Giants or some other unsuspecting team. Or ithat game could have been a sign of things to come, that was interrupted by a team with 70 sacks this regular season. Time will tell.

But do they have a wizard at the GM position?

If one component is broken, then the combined component is broken.

You seem like a fun guy.

He's a well above average amateur golfer and does it for fun.

You do understand Elway needed a HC change before he won it all? Or don't you know things?

Its more like do we have a Reeves/Elway situation of wasting nine years of a great QB, before getting Mike Shanahan and relatively promptly win a couple of Super Bowl?

I guess I have a problem with any part of the measuring standard being the crappy Bills coaching staffs from yesteryear. The standard is the current competition.

Are you sure its the "winning culture" and not simply having Josh Allen as the QB? Pretty much every team in the NFL would expect to make the playoffs every year with Allen as their QB.

Lucy had a process too.

I will clear this up for you. The defense cost us any chance to win the game.

Doug Pedersen coaches the Jaguars. He has a process to trust. We have a process to trust.

Ok, we have something in common with the Jaguars. My bad.

Last year I thought it was obvious we would have gone on to beat the Bengals and Rams, except for that blunder. But I no longer think that is obvious. It is likely the Bengals would have beaten us just like they beat the Chiefs. And Miller and Donald would have killed us in the Super Bowl had we got by the Bengals. The net result is last year was a regression from the previous year, dropping from the final four to the final eight. This year we stayed pat being in the top 8, but ended the season with a massive beatdown, so it felt like a regression.

Will the back 11 give a 10 yard cushion on third and five?

zero turnovers against the Bengals until long after the defense had lost the game.

To my read opinions of posters on TBD are split on the Bills general direction. One group thinks the Bills should stay the course and keeping doing the same things and that through some experience/maturation process the Bills will get better results. The second group thinks the coaching staff has peaked and won't be able to do further in the playoffs than it has. There is a smaller group that seems to think coaching changes automatically results in disaster and as long as your current coaches are competent NFL coaches and you don't should tempt the fates with a change. I am in the second group. I am not sure thinking team McDermott has peaked means "fire everybody", but I feel like any further failure to progress means something should change. I may be guilty of overrating Josh Allen, but I think any current NFL coaching staff would get the Bills 2022 Roster to the playoffs, simply because Allen is that good. So the goals have to be set higher than that.

You are Dopey.

The Bills are the only team whose fans are requested to "trust the process". So presumably, other teams don't have a process. Just random grabass decision making with no direction or purpose. And like the proverbial monkeys on a typewriter one of the other 31 teams random grabass directionless decision making results in a championship every year.

While neither the Chiefs or Eagles have a process to trust, it is pretty remarkable that the Eagles drafted 10 offensive starters and then added AJ Brown. I would be suprised to learn that any other Super Bowl team had that much drafting success in the last 30 years.