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Even then, they need to be ready to coach. McDermotts decision to punt near the end of the first quarter will stick with me as long as "wide right". He wasn't up to the task of properly coaching the team that day. Even if somehow the game plan made sense.

I don't know anything about Reed. Here is the NFL.com writeup about him, for others that may not be familiar https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jayden-reed/32005245-4526-3142-e96f-a871c08a1138

silly take You left part out. The coaches also have to have themselves prepared. It seemed McDermott was just ready to be done for the season. He also seems to have occassionaly games where he makes decisions at the end of the game, that are more about "lets get this overwith one way or another, rather than the optimal plays for the situtation". The Tennessee game in 2021 sticks in my mind as one of these.

I will assume that the leaders in round 1, are perfectly acceptable in rounds 2 and 3.

Note to everyone following this topic, only total votes matter. The percentages shown in the charts are misleading. For example 19/28 voters would be happy with JSN in the first. The 21 percent shown in the chart, is out of total multi-votes. (side note, not sure why this is not 28/28 )

Based on NFL.com grades, NFL.com estimates 22 OTwill be selected in the draft. 12 of these players have grades suggesting they could be selected in the first four rounds. Based on PFF grades, PFF estimates 20 OT's will be selected in the draft. 10 of these players have rankings suggesting they could be selected in the first four rounds. There is not an 100% overlap of the players they estimate in the first four rounds. 13 Different Players exist in one or both lists. This a list of those 1 players. The are ranked by NFL.com grade, and the ranking within PFF for WR's is shown in the right hand column. If any of the top 3, Paris Johnson, Pete Skoronski, or Broderick Jones are available at the 27th, I presume Beane will be running over and through people to get to the podium. Depending on price, It might even be worth trading up for one of those three.

I agree, but NFL.com and pFF do not agree. the rankings, even post combine, are all over the board. These are X. Hutchinsons:

Based on NFL.com grades, NFL.com estimates 31 WR's will be selected in the draft. 15 of these players have grades suggesting they could be selected in the first four rounds. Based on PFF grades, PFF estimates 36 WR's will be selected in the draft. 18 of these players have rankings suggesting they could be selected in the first four rounds. There is not an 100% overlap of the players they estimate in the first four rounds. 22 Different Players exist in one or both lists. This a list of those 22 players. The are ranked by NFL.com grade, and the ranking within PFF for WR's is shown in the right hand column. There is a giant disconnect at the top of the board with Jalin Hyatt having the highest NFL.com Grade, and PFF ranking him 10th. Internet websites have all of these guys similarly all over the place. To build the board, I am asking people to identify all of the players they would be happy if they were selected in the first round. Same question for the second round, Same question for the third round. I will use these results to build a consensus TBD ranking (well, consensus of people who participate in the poll). NOTE - there is a 20 answer limit, so the round answers will leave the two most unlikely off. NFL.com grades can be seen here: https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/participants/all-positions/all-colleges/ PFF.com Big Board Rankings can be seen here: https://www.pff.com/draft/big-board?season=2023

Dalton Kincaid or Mike Mayer may be available, would you take either of those at 27?

Can you provide the list from 1 to 260 precisely ranking the players in order. I don't want to get to pick 59, and accidently take the 60th best player instead of the 59th.

Bills I don't think there is enough salary cap to add four veteran free agents at more than the Vet minimum and have enough for the draft class. I do not see how it is feasable to add Wagner, Landry and Elliot.

What is the basis for 9 to 11? Won't the Bills go to training camp with 90 players? There will be lots of FA signings. And there will be undrafted free agent rookies too.

BPA is a great theory. It is premised on the concept that I know which NFL prospect is 27th best and 28 best (assuming the first 26 drafters correctly selected the 26 best players). I think BPA comes into play for certain if the person you have projected as significantly better (say you rank safety Brian Branch 15th best, and he is there at 27) then you almost certainly should break from need to select Branch. But if you rank CB Deonte Banks 27th best and WR Zay Flowers 28th best, and both are there are 27, it is not obvious you should take Banks over Flowers, due to position value and need.

depth chart : https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/depth/_/name/buf Which position group should the Bills target in Draft RD 1? If you are split evenly between more than one position group, you may pick more than one in this poll. Names are public to provide a help see if people are split among groups, or committed to one.

I think you are correct regarding fundamental NFL drafting strategy. Draft picks are a form of currency. They allow you to lock up a player for up to five years at significantly below market rights. After QB, market rates for Edge Rushers and Wide Recievers are much higher than RBs and and Linebackers. You maximize your draft picks financial value at QB, Edge Rusher and WR above all the other positions. However if you are in win now mode (which a team whose non-QB core stars are Tre White, Von Miller, Mica Hyde and Jordan Poyer would seem to be in) then it maybe logical to take a person at a lower value position like linebacker, if they can make an immediate impact in "winning now". Its not clear to me that Jack Campbell, Trent Simpson, or Drew Sanders really fit that bill. But if Beane thinks they can contribute the most to winning in 2023, it would be an Ok pick. Really depends on the choices. Zay Flowers may be available at 27. Josh Downs and Jalin Hyatt are likely to be there. It is a small possiblity <1% Myles Murphy will be there. There is a decent chance Nolan Smith will be there. I think it will generate a lot of controversty to take a line backer ahead of those three wide receivers and two edge rushers.

Your use of "It's" is ambiguous. You clarified it is intended to relate to the thread title. Others were reading it to refer to your initial sentence fragment "Not Happening", meaning not taking the RT is the path to being mediocre. This is why it was confusing.

The unusual way the Bills use LBs compounds the challenge.

Players were given an extra year of eligibilty due to the pandemic.

We saved a cool 400k per year going with McGovern. He was only 7.6 per season, and is several years younger. McGovern may well end up being the better signing. Interesting how the Steelers seemed to be focusing on building a great online for Kenny Pickett, rather than focus on defense and let Pickett carry the offense by himself. Very odd of the Steelers.

Literally everyone (in the true sense of the word literally) understands PFF is one data point. Your wisdom is non-existant. Your leap to the conclusion, that people who disagree with you are worshipping one data point, is so ridiculous, it is only exceeded by the ignorance of your comment.

hmm

Initially this was intended to be a bit tongue in cheek. I had assumed that this first phase of free agency may have seen more activity. But I guess as the first phase of free agency concludes, Conner McGovern is our big move, with a couple of million of cap space left for a small move and enought cap to sign the draft picks. Really hopeful that Elam, Cook, and Benard can have first second and third round rookie impact in their second seasons. If that happens (and white returns to preinjury levels, and Miller comes back to pre injury levels) we should be considered championship contenders.

Stefon Diggs was also controllable for five seasons. What is your point?

He would be over drafted at 27, and won't make it to 59. I would be ok with him at 27 though, and thrilled at 59.

Beast of an athlete. But he seems to project as a project. NFL.com considers him a practice squad player. SI says he is a 6th round prospect. If he was there in the fifth, I would take him. But he is a flyer.