Chaos

Real question. What did Edmunds do that Nickle Safties don't do?

Please tune your sarcasm detector.

Young needs a water bug and a strong defense. Stop wasting your picks on these lineman.

Well, Beane already shored up the guard position. Bates is not great, but just was not the disaster Brown was last year, notwithingstand a GM trying to talk up a player.

It seems like there is a real push-me pull-me on the Bills Board. Its seems there is a consensus that the NFL as a whole has "devalued" the LB position. It also seems people seem to think the most important position on the Bills defense is a linebacker who is no longer with the team. The Bills scheme will just shift to whatever allows all the other teams to "devalue" LBs.

Tippman is still undrafted.

Lining Torrence up next to the mountain of a man human turnstile Spencer Brown is is not appealing to me. If we are looking for a mountain, lets draft Dawand Jones. Jones is going to be good in the NFL, if he can hold up for the entire NFL season.

I think Hyde, Poyer and the two safeties we draft this year are expected to handle the slack from Edmunds. In reality Edmunds played more like a safety than an LB.

After this season, we may be facing wholesale changes. Hyde, Poyer, Miller, Morse are all older beat up. All of them could be gone. Tre White post injury was not good, without a return to form for White, and Hyde and Poyer aging, the secondary is a disaster. Bills should use the first round pick on someone who can contribute in 2023 as well as in the future. Drafting a DT now who doesn't improve the position meaningfully in 2023, in order to fill a 2024 makes little sense to me. I don't want to draft McDonald, but teams should only count on the rookie contract. In the case of Edmunds, we could not afford his peak years, after the rookie contract. With McDonald we would be getting his peak years for the entire rookie contract.

PFF simulation model makes the rules, not me.

If Campbell is a 3 down starter from day 1 and for 5 years, that is a perfectly good use of pick 27. (some ifs in there though)

Hendon Hooker will help the bills as much as Jordan Love has helped the Packer so far.

Unless we trade up to the second pick to take Robinson not sure it is the same vibe.

I have the concerns about Dell. But he has been incredibly durable and productive while a guy the Bills seem to be consider 6'2 213 LB WR Michael Wilson has only been on the field for 14 games over the last 3 seasons.

With the 25th pick in the 2023 NFL draft the NY Giants Select Zay Flowers, WR Boston College If Flowers doesn’t want you to touch him, chances are you won’t. He has that rare ability to sprint in any direction in the blink of an eye. Get him matched on a linebacker or safety and it’s over. We spent $160 mm on Danny Dimes. We are doing everything we can to make that look like a good decision. The Cowboys and @Might Rather are on the clock.

I think 13 is far too many too poll. I would be better to narrow down to no more than 6. OT Harrison, Jones WR, Addison Hyatt LB, Sanders Campbell. Unless you are having a second poll to narrow the field, you have a far better chance of gaining a consenus with a shorter list.

Situations change. This years starters feature 4 key players close to the end of their careers Von Miller, Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Mitch Morse. Real chance they are all gone after this season (all could also be back). One way to look at, is that I must hold on to future draft picks like grim death because we will be rebuilding. Another way to look at it, is that this a win now season, and that the most important thing is to get an impact player in the draft. Would trading up for Paris Johnson, or JSN have enough impact to get us past the divisional round of the playoffs this season? Or do we just stay put and hope we find a difference maker later in the draft. Getting a near certain impact player in this draft means using future draft capital. There really is no way around it.

Something like this seems like a good trade up to me. At least I would be pretty excited about season.

Probably next years #1. With older Von Miller, Older Jordan Poyer, Older Mycah Hyde, Older Mitch Morris (all four of whom are broken to various degrees plus a broken Tre White) would indicate 2023 is a win now year. Personally I don't care much about saving nexts years #1 as the foundation of a new rebuild. But pretty good chance all of those guys are gone. And then we are building around Allen, Johnson/Skoronski-Dawkins-McGovern, a new Center (I would hope to get Tippman with our second round pick this year). Allen and strong line is the best foundation we can hope for after the mass exodus we should expect after this season.

This thread is about trading up. What trade ups would be more characteristic of Beane?

Trading up makes sense for Paris Johnson or Peter Skoronski. Two very good olinemen who would start in 2023. Trading up for anyone else would seem to be foolish to me.

Bills finished in the top eight for the second year in a row. That is our tier for now.

According @Airsevennot only is the Bills roster mediocre, Josh Allen is a liability. 13-3 must have been a miracle.