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Is coaching considered in any of this. Chiefs, Bengals, Niners, Eagles were last years final four. Nothing dramatic has happened to disrupt that reality, until it is actually disrupted in reality.

The hot rumour is Dhop to the Ravens.

This is complete shitte. Fourteen teams make the playoffs. Eleven of them without a top 3 QB. For starters all those coaches would be expected to make the final 8 with Allen as QB. Side note - no one else would have choked 13 seconds. In the entire history of the NFL, no coach f'd up that big. Many of the teams that did not make the playoffs last year have coaches who would be expected to to make the final 8 with Allen. Guys like Belichek and Tomlin. So we start at easy 50%. No reason to think guys like Saleh or McCay or Sean Peyton would do worse. We are quickly into well over half without even trying. If the Bills hired Riech , Riviera, Campbell, Vrabel or Daboll, every fan would have an expectation of making the divisional round of the playoffs. In other words somewhere between almost all and all.

You said my comment was complete "shite" (note- don't add words or emphasis to other peoples quotes, its misleading) The comment you bolded was "In my opinion, there is not a single NFL head coach, who given Allen and the rest of the Bills roster, would be expected to have lesser playoff results than McDermott ha s had. " So I will modify my question: Which coaches would be expected TO HAVE lesser playoff results than McDermott?

I suspect the last of his type.

Which NFL coaches do you think, would result in people expecting the Bills to miss the playoffs in 2023. Put up or shut up.

Give Bill Cowher Big Ben, and he wins a Super Bowl pretty quickly. I think the point about McDermott is that he has a top 2 (3, 4 or you rather) QB, and is falling short with that.

If I just get to pick, I would say Kyle Shanahan. Depends on how you frame the question. Seems Like Zac Thomas and Nick Siriano are off to pretty good starts. I did not even know who either of those guys were 3 years ago. If losing in the divisional round of the playoffs is considered success, the risk of changing coaches is quite low. As I mentioned in my other post, as long as Josh Allen is healthy, my preseason expectations for the Bills would be a minimum of reaching the divisional round of playoffs, with any head coach currently in the NFL. People who think somehow changing coaches risk going back to the level of futility of the EJ Manuel / Tyrod Taylor / Ryan Fitzpatrick/Kyle Orton days are just silly.

McDermott has had a very average level of success since Josh Allen has blossomed into one of the leagues best QBs. As a self styled hands off the offense guy, McDermott is not likely a primary reason Allen has become this top QB. In my opinion, there is not a single NFL head coach, who given Allen and the rest of the Bills roster, would be expected to have lesser playoff results than McDermott has had. He is just very average in the primary measure of success most head coaches are held too. At this point he is just as likely to be Marvin Lewis or Jeff Fisher level of success, as he is to even rise to the level of Mike Tomlin success. I don't have a magic pocket full of championship head coaches. But attempts to sugar coat McDermott's playoff failures fall flat with me. I don't know what Pegula is looking for in a head coach. If he is looking for a decent guy who doesn't embarrass him with personal problems or bad behavior in the press and who can put a competitive team on the field every season, he has his guy. If he is looking for a guy who achieve optimal results for the brief window of time the Bills have a truly great QB, he may or may not have his guy. I don't think he needs advise to know what his goals are, and if they are being achieved or not. My guess is that if McDermott finishes his career at the Jeff Fisher level, Mr. Pegula will be happy enough.

If he gets a head coaching job now, do the Bills get comp picks?

Probably the single biggest reason the NFL-AFL merger happened. Impacted the game like no player before or since.

Do the other 31 teams four weakest positions.

Ravens head coach had won a Super Bowl with the Ravens.

Jets - Aaron Rogers vs Zack Wilson is enough of a WAR replacement to close the Jets gap. Ravens having Jackson healthy for 17 games would as well (not that this is guaranteed, but it is possible). Dolphin's no longer have a rookie HC, and Tua being healthy for a whole season closes part of that gap too. But the regular season barely matters. Bills- Dolphins-Ravens were more or less equal teams in the playoffs last year. McDermott so far has not advanced in his ability to win playoff games. It really is a crapshoot which of these three teams can break the Chiefs-Bengals strangle hold on the AFC. (while no one was looking Bengals Burrows, Chiefs Mahomes became the modern Manning Colts, Patriots Brady rivalary. The Bills appear to be the Rothlisberger Steelers in this saga, maybe stumbling into a couple of SBs)

straw man. nevery said they made the wrong choice. simply said they had choices and made a choice. my original response was to someone portraying the Bills as victims due to the choice they made. the Bills are most definitely NOT a victim in this fiasco.

Bengals are ahead of the Bills until proven otherwise. Two years in a row, the Bengals advance further than the Bills This past season the Bengals stomped the Bills. They are not even.

It will be interesting to see if the NFL decorates end zones with "Innocent until proven guilty" this coming season. In the name of social justice.

they had a choice. They took the safe choice.

You can't measure this stuff in a vacuum. Take fifth round pick Justin Shorter: The following four receivers were more highly touted going into the draft than Shorter. If all of them went on to big NFL succcess, and Shorter did not, it would be fair to say Beane made a meaningful mistake. If Shorter and all the WR's picked after him fail in the NFL, one might complain it was a bad positional pick, but hard to complain more than that. 21) Parker Washington, Penn State Round 6, Pick 185 | Jaguars 22) Kayshon Boutte, LSU Round 6, Pick 187 | Patriots 23) Trey Palmer, Nebraska Round 6, Pick 191 | Buccaneers 24) A.T. Perry, Wake Forest Round 6, Pick 195 | Saints

I don't fault them. I just said they were the Bills decisions. And they knew the consequences of the decisions. No one owes them anything for the decisions they made. It appears all 32 NFL teams would have made the same decision. Certainly no one signed him. But there is an alternative decision reality. Bills could have stood behind Araiza, and said, unless he is arrested or otherwise charged as a crime, this is a matter for the San Diego police, not his employer. In 2023, no employers stand up to the social justice mob, so this may not have been realistic. But in the 50's no one stood up to the McCarthyist black listing until someone said "enough". The Bills could have been the ones to say "enough". They played it safe. Not faulting them.

If Beane says their league forced it I will believe Beane. But until that is said it was the Bills final decision.

Bills own the decision to buckle under pressure and cut him. They own the consequences of their decision.

This is very wrong.

Your just wrong. Sorry.

In terms of advancing through the playoffs, Hurts is more successful. In terms of QB talent Allen blows Hurts away.