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Luck never had the benefit of a true coaching process. If he had, he would have avoided injury, played 15 years and won 5 or 6 superbowls. In my imagination.

Or we can consider the more obvious answer. Allen is as good or better than Manning.

mmm poast

a check down on third followed by a punt is the functional equivalent of a turnover. Add up the Bills punts + turnovers and anyone will realize Allen is the best.

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When you consider than in addition to the regular QB duties, he has to carry the entire coaching staff and offense on his shoulders, this is an amazing stat.

I am very concerned.

Regular season is fun. Not sure how McD would do without Allen. But he can't get past the divisional round often with Allen. So its pretty likely the season is over if Allen is not available for the playoffs.

just trying to determine how wierd the current convo is. It seems currently to have nothing to do with the subject of the thread description. .

lighten up francis. you are the one who needs to get over yourself. your pretty much a stalker. my point was the 3 other sports don't suck. i am pretty sure I am entitled to my opinion as much as gunner. So again, get over your stalking behavior and get over yourself

I haven't followed this convo. Are we arguing about who is the best coach among Bill Bellichek, Dick Jauron and Sean McDermott?

Just to clarify, those are these among the top 4 sports leagues in the World. Japan had the good sense to get on board with Baseball after WWII, or it would be a clean sweep.

More offensive plays run through Josh, than any other player in the NFL. His turnover rate is fine. Allen is the only part of the Bills team who has no significant room for improved productivity.

The Tom Landry experience from the 1960's and 70's was fifty+ years ago. People would have thought you are silly if you were discussing Red Grange or Jim Thorpe during the Super Bowl. But in any case, once Landy had his franchise QB, Roger Staubach in place, things went pretty quickly from there. It is actually pointless to compare win-loss success among coaches with HOF caliber QBs to coaches without them.

Ron Riviera, Mike McCarthy, Doug Pederson were all fired after winning Super Bowls. Extending / firing coaches seems to have "expectations" as a significant component of the decision making. For example when you have Aaron Rodgers as your QB, a couple of super bowl appearance, a super bowl win and regular playoff appearances does not carry a coach indefinitely.

this is settled. I just completed the trade. everyone can stand down.

as far as I know, he has never owned that

So you are saying it is super easy to find coaches who don't win the Super Bowl. I think most of us already knew this.

Honestly, we should just raise an "8-time super bowl champion" banner. Our fan base wants us to be the best franchise ever. Why should outdated NFL social conventions prevent us from having what we want. Also, it is ok if they laugh at us, as long as the respect our preferrered pronoun : "Champs". Justice for Bills Fans. Now.

maybe the strategy isn't to focus on winning playoff games, but simply being competitive and making the playoffs. The bend-don't-break strategy was incredible succesful for Beane and McDermott having recently received long contract extensions.

I thought everyone understood that we consistently get outcoached on both sides of the ball in playoff games. Is there some controversy about this point?

Review how many games the Chiefs have won when Mahomes was not having his best games. Do the same for Allen. It is clear which team supports its QB better.

I didn't even set a goal post. But your point on the Chiefs is absurd. Practically disqualifies you from having an opinion on the subject.

At the beginning of the year 32 teams are Super Bowl contenders. At the beginning of the post season 14 teams are contenders. By championship week there are four. We are in the middle group of 14. Consistently.

I have a question. Rather than struggling all of these years never actually winning the super bowl game, can the Bills be considered Super Bowl Champions, simply by identifying as such. Could anyone stop the Bills from raising a Super Bowl Champions banner has part of the ceremony opening the new stadium?