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Mahomes had hit every single pass in the second half to that point. The throw in question landed 3 yards over Juju's head. When a hold is the difference between a touchdown and a well thrown ball becoming completely uncatchable, you have to throw the flag. Bradberry knew he was cooked, so he held. Yes, it was anticlimactic. That doesn't mean the ref should have swallowed the whistle and let Philadelphia prevent a TD by grabbing a jersey.

Did you miss the part where Rogers gave up $35,000,000?

…said Payton in his 10,000th interview of the offseason without a sense of irony.

Roethlisberger, Favre, and Elway are the 2nd, 4th, and 5th most sacked QBs of all time. Brady is the most sacked QB of all time. Funny how their careers didn’t get cut super short like…literally every running QB other than Young.

Say what now? http://www.thepostgame.com/josh-allen-wyoming-collarbone-injury-nfl-draft Except for when he got concussed on a run…and when he broke his collar bone on a run.

Yeah. They literally both ended their careers early due to injuries. That’s the entire point of the thread.

Yes, but they still spent the same amount overall relative to the salary cap during the drought years. The individual player contracts are simply accounting and apportionment of resources. Given that the cap is a pre-determined percentage of revenue, it makes very little difference how that cap is divided up. The only real exception to this is the amount of money that has to be either paid up front or put into escrow accounts as guarantees.

Herbert’s defense had Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa, Derwin James, Asante Samuel, JC Jackson, Dru Tranquill, etc. His RB was Austin Ekeler who was 38 TDs in the last 2 seasons. If the Ravens had a better running game, it’s because of Lamar. There is simply no advantage that Lamar has had that warrants hand-waiving away the difference between 45-16 and 25-24.

Because the 27-0 lead was brought about by the defense forcing 5 turnovers. The Chargers were able to score TDs on drives of 16 and 18 yards and a FG on a drive of 1 yard. Of course it was the offense’s fault.

Lamar is 45-16 as a starter. Herbert is 25-24 and has had a roster every bit as good or better around him.

He’s the ultimate one-year wonder. 3 years of mediocrity with one really good year sandwiched in between.

If the Chiefs play well, I’d rather play Burrow. If the Chiefs play poorly, I’d rather play Allen. Allen has the ability to take his game to such a high level that he can win a game against elite teams even when those teams play well. Burrow can’t do that. Allen also has the ability to lose a game they should win simply by being sloppy with the ball. Burrow won’t do that.

So you choose to compare their regular season performances when Josh had better numbers, but when it comes to the postseason and Hurts has better numbers, it’s an invalid comparison?

Compare his 8 total TDs, 0 INTs, and 2 fumbles in the postseason to Allen’s 4 TDs, 3 INTs, and 3 fumbles.

Care to enlighten us on how implied probability works then?

Sure, but the question is whether they’re more likely to be unseated in the division or unseat Kansas City, Cincinnati, and the rest of the field in the AFC. According to Vegas, they’re about twice as likely to miss the playoffs. They’re +500 to win the AFC, so they have about a 17% chance. They’re +130 to win the East which gives them about a 43% chance of winning the division. That puts them at about a 65% chance of making the playoffs as a division winner or wild card. So there’s a 35% chance of missing the playoffs and a 17% chance of winning the AFC.

Herbert doesn’t belong anywhere near that group. He’s in the Cousins and Dak range.

Why would I know the answer to that?

The Bengals really looked like they came out flat.

How much time did they spend on Kirk and Mariota’s siblings?

So it wasn’t that they didn’t have the pass rush talent to pressure Burrow without Von. It wasn’t that Chase, Higgins, Boyd, and Hurst completely outclassed the Bills depleted secondary. It certainly wasn’t that the Bills couldn’t protect Allen, nor was it that the Bills don’t have any backs capable of creating for themselves when the Defensive Line is winning up front. It’s just a coincidence that the exact same thing was happening when the teams played three weeks earlier. Nope. 55 players came out flat that day, and they all happened to be wearing blue. That makes a lot more sense than thinking that the defending AFC champions were actually a much better team than the Bills were by the end of the season. It wasn’t that the Bengals looked like they were going to boat race the Bills 3 weeks prior and then validated it in the playoffs. It was that the Bills were “flat” (whatever that actually means).

No, he literally came in year three. Josh’s rookie year was 2018. Diggs came to Buffalo in 2020.

Teams aren’t flat for 60 minutes. That just doesn’t happen. The Chiefs came out flat against the Texans in 2019 when they were down 24-0 and couldn’t hang onto a ball to save their lives. Same thing in 2020 against the Bills when Hill dropped the bomb on the first drive and then Hardman fumbled the punt on the second drive to go down 9-0. That wasn’t what happened when Buffalo played Cincy. They started out the previous matchup getting manhandled by the Bengals before the game got canceled, and the playoff game picked up right where that one left off. Without Von, the Bills didn’t have the horses up front to pressure Burrow, and there was no way in hell that Buffalo’s depleted secondary could hang with Chase, Higgins, Boyd, and Hurst. The Bengals had more talent on the field that day, and they were about as bad of a matchup stylistically as it gets for the Bills. The result was a good old fashioned butt whipping. It happens.

That was my first reaction, but they’ve got a couple of young QBs they’re trying to develop. The biggest mistake McBeane made in Josh’s development was running him out there without anything even resembling a competent WR. At least now the Titans can ease whichever QB they go with by leaning on a solid run game and a legit WR. That has value even during a rebuild. It didn’t cost them any draft picks and it’s not a massive contract, so this doesn’t do anything to stunt their rebuild.

A mistake? No. But there are risks involved, sure. Especially for McKinnon who has had a history of injuries. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he were to miss significant time. Von’s ACL was absolutely wear and tear. It’s not like he went down in a heap after he tore it. The tear was discovered when they were working on his meniscus and cleaning up cartilage damage. Even Poyer wasn’t really injured so much as he was banged up and playing at less than 100%. Older players are more susceptible to injuries, and they take longer to recover than younger players. That’s just a fact.