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It’s pretty much a coin flip between the two at this point. Amazing how young Sam still is. He’s more than a year younger than Josh and seven months younger than Burrow.

Jimmy and Jacoby barely played in NE during the regular season, but they showed out in preseason. Gordon could do the same. I think he could be a great pick for the Bills who have the worst backup QB situation in the NFL, but I’m not sure McDermott, Daboll, and Allen make for an ideal situation to maximize Gordon’s talent. Reid is the perfect coach for Gordon, and he could learn a lot from studying under Pat. Plenty of teams need franchise QBs that are plug and play because they don’t know how to develop QBs. Now that Mahomes is beyond the developmental stage, I think Reid would be well served to always have someone in the pipeline as an investment QB. If Allen gets to that point, McBeane might consider doing the same. I’m not sure they have the bandwidth to do that now given Josh’s situation.

No. Kansas City needs a backup, and Gordon looks like diet Mahomes to me. Andy Reid has a history of turning project QBs into high draft picks, so this makes a ton of sense IMO.

The Chiefs will draft Anthony Gordon at the end of the fourth round, groom him to be Mahomes’s backup, and eventually trade him for a first round pick.

Tannehill didn’t do anything that isn’t sustainable. He threw for 228 YPG and relied on short passes and downfield shots off of play action. They have a solid defense that will only get better if Clooney signs, and that allows them to play ball control offense to sit on leads and shorten games. It’s a solid formula that has stood the test of time in the NFL. This type of team consistently makes the playoffs, often wins divisions, but rarely wins championships. If you think the team that won against KC, at Houston, at New England, and at Baltimore all in the second half of the season plus postseason is suddenly going to become mediocre, I think you’re in for disappointment.

What makes you say that? They were terrible to start the season. They were Super Bowl caliber by the end of the year. There’s a good chance Henry gets injured due to his workload, but otherwise they’re not taking a big step back from 9-7. You think they’re a 6 win team? I’m not seeing it.

Tannehill has always been a better player than he’s given credit for. He’s a decent player when he’s playing for a competent organization. Tannehill could pull an Alex Smith and be a guy who gets traded to a team that’s a better fit for him and wins a ton of games even though he never wows anyone. I think the same about Andy Dalton but to a lesser extent. If BB wants a veteran starter, Dalton could do some things there.

Mahomes deserved the MVP for sure. In addition to his 3 TDs, he threw what should have been another easy one, but Williams ran a bad route and couldn’t find the ball. He also had 44 yards rushing on 6 carries for 330 yards of total offense. If Mahomes didn’t get it, it should have gone to Chris Jones who got his hands on about 5 passes in the 4th quarter. The guy is special. Even his “bad” games are great.

So we should chalk that one up to poor protection? OL let him down?

He’s literally said he’d rather be good at playing football than bad at playing football. What more do you need?

If Joe Burrow starts 12 games next year and throws for 3300 yards, 21 TDs and 6 INTs, he will exceed expectations. Of course Minshew is above Allen. He’s way ahead of Allen.

RB is a huge need for the Chiefs. Damien Williams is 28, has 1,200 career rushing yards, and gets hurt a lot. He is a nice player, but he’s not a bell cow by any stretch. He can flat out score, though. He is exactly what Buffalo needs to pair with Singletary. There are a ton of good RB options in this draft so I wouldn’t take one this early, but KC will almost certainly take one at some point. I think Terrell would be their pick here.

I’m dumb. Most of you already knew that, though.

WOW. Chargers trade up, and it’s not for a QB. This draft is wildin’.

I just don’t see it with him at all. I’d prefer Anthony Gordon of you’re looking for the next Mahomes type player. Both are more likely to bust than be great, but Gordon could likely be had in the 5th round, and he produced in college. I HATE the idea of drafting QBs who didn’t dominate in college. It’s hard to say who will be good in the NFL, but it’s easy to say who won’t.

His statement, like pretty much everything else about him, was perfectly bland. People choose to take perfectly innocuous comments and twist them into the narrative of their choice and pretend it means something, but it doesn’t. The same people criticizing him for this would be calling him a crybaby primadonna if he said it would suck playing in empty stadiums. He can’t win with some people. If you want to hate him because he’s milquetoast then go right ahead, but if what he said makes you clutch your pearls, then you’re just looking for a reason to criticize him.

Maybe he’ll carry himself better while throwing 26 TDs and 6 INTs again next year in an empty stadium.

If Josh had said the same thing, the thread title would be “Josh Allen shows that he’s a gamer who just wants to play anywhere, anytime, in any circumstances”.

WTF is this supposed to mean to people today? Seriously. Show me the QB who said he’d prefer to burn out in 4 years to being a 15 year great. There’s no rule that says you have to leave the NFL after 4 seasons if you play well on your rookie contract.

Just admit it. You want the QB of your favorite football team to fail despite having a Super Bowl contender level roster. It’s obvious.

So if my kids get four Fs and two Ds on their report cards, does it mean I don’t want them to succeed if I point out that their grades are terrible?

In two games against NE, he threw for 153 and 208. The margins of those games were 6 and 7. Got to think an extra 147 yards and 92 yards would have made a difference. (He threw 28 passes before he got hurt in the first game). He also threw for 146 yards in a 7 point loss to Baltimore. That isn’t to say that 300 is some magic number, but NFL QBs routinely exceed that threshold. It’s not even a “wow” number. Allen’s never even come close. His best is 266, and that took him 41 attempts to reach. Just for comparison, Mahomes has played 35 career games including the postseason. He’s exceeded 266 yards 28 times, 300 yards 19 times, and 400 yards 3 times. At some point, a franchise QB needs to have the ability to get into the zone and start throwing the ball all over the yard. I’m pretty confident he will hit 300 multiple times this season.

Maybe we’re just talking past each other. I’m saying that Cooper is a good player when he’s got a good QB. Give him Dak, and you get big numbers. Give him modern day Carr, and you get pedestrian numbers. Give him whatever QB you can get for league minimum, and you’ll get less than that. My point is that paying Cooper $20,000,000 is a complete waste if they decide to save money by not paying Dak.

You deliberately misrepresented the situation by only using data from 5 years ago before Carr fell off a cliff. Cooper’s production was in a free fall prior to the trade. He averaged 49 YPG with Carr in 2017 and 47 YPG with him in 2018 (plus 1 TD in 6 games). He averaged 81 YPG with 6 TDs in 9 games after the trade in 2018 then backed it up with 74 YPG and 8 TDs in 2019. The difference between his career arc prior to the trade and after it is striking.

That $20,000,000 WR’s production with Carr was crap compared to what it was with Dak. Who helped who? Let Dak walk and see how Cooper does catching passes from Mariota while Jake Fromm waits for his turn on the carousel.