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It should be. There are 25 WRs making at least $10,000,000. Kelce is around the 30th-35th highest paid pass catcher. That’s ridiculous.

Kittle was targeted 13 times for 5.5 yards per attempt and a catch percentage of 61.5%. Kelce was targeted 22 times for 9.4 yards per attempt and a catch percentage of 86.4%. He also drew nearly 100 yards in DPI/holding penalties.

Kittle in the playoffs: 8 catches, 71 yards, 0 TDs Kelce in the playoffs: 19 catches, 207 yards, 4 TDs, 1 ring

Why do people have a problem with athletes being overpaid? They bring us SO much entertainment while abusing their bodies. These are people who often grew up poor and are now trying to bring their entire families out of the cycle of poverty. Their money makes a difference for a generation. The alternative is that the owners add a rounding error level increase to their net worth. Even if the player just wants to blow the money on hookers and blow, then score one for the little guy who gets to enjoy 1% of what billionaires have.

Heard a rumor from someone who has had excellent toon in the past that he’s about to sign a 6 year $95m deal with about half of that guaranteed. Evidently Kittle is casting some doubt on that rumor via Twitter, though.

He’s the very definition of JAG.

Kurt Warner took the Cardinals to the Super Bowl.

You’re way too intelligent to miss a point this badly. He has the right to opt out. If he chooses to play, he owes his best effort on the field. If he chooses not to play, he doesn’t owe fans a damned thing. If he chooses to play and then jakes it, then he should be criticized.

You seem to struggle with following a conversation. My use of the word was in response to Tre being called “entitled” for having the audacity to make his own decision about what’s best for him and his family.

I mean, you’re right but I don’t see what that has to do with my posts. Being a professional athlete means that loud mouths on message boards are going to spout off stupid opinions about how “entitled” a grown man is because he dares make his own decision about what’s best for him and his family. That doesn’t mean that those stupid opinions should themselves be exempt from criticism. Tre is wildly successful in life by every possible definition despite being born into poverty. He’s a multimillionaire. He’s a great player. He’s seemingly well liked by coaches and teammates. He’s a dedicated family man. I can assure you that there isn’t a single person on this message board who knows more about what’s best for Tre White than Tre, his family, and his agent does. Those who think he owes the fans anything other than his effort on the field are the very definition of “entitled”.

Exactly. Any criticism of Tre boils down to jealousy. Those criticizing him don’t have the ability to take a year off and still be a multimillionaire. Why should someone who has created that kind of leverage listen to someone who hasn’t? If he needs career advice, he’s got an agent.

It’s great to be passionate about football. It would be wildly hypocritical of me to suggest otherwise. What’s not great is pretending that Tre White, a grown man who is a father and millionaire needs life advice Joe from Depew, a used car salesman who spends his spare time doing belly flops through folding tables and posting on football message boards. Tre needs Joe Sixpack’s career advice about as much as Josh Allen needs me to coach him on how to score with the ladies.

Tre isn’t just a great player, he’s a great fit in this system. Whatever draft picks you would get wouldn’t be expected to be impact players for years even in a best case scenario. By then, if the rest of the plan goes well, (ie. Josh turns into a franchise QB), whatever money was saved not paying Tre will have been soaked up retaining players who are currently on cheap contracts. The Jets did the right thing in moving Adams because they aren’t in their Super Bowl window. They aren’t in a Super Bowl window because of years of incompetent management. Their new GM seems poised to end that cycle. Buffalo appears to have ended a similar cycle. They’ve executed their plan, and it’s time to see if it works. You don’t spend years building a roster, trading for picks in order to move up for a QB, and developing that QB only to ship off your best player who is a 25 year old star at a premium position and a solid guy off the field. Now is the time to acquire as much talent as possible. That’s going to involve spending a lot of money and draft capital. I can promise you that nobody in Kansas City would trade the Lombardi trophy for draft picks or cap space (which is mostly a myth anyway).

You did a fine job of attacking points that I never made. Never once did I say anyone here doesn’t work hard. Never once did I say that what people here do for a living is unimportant. Never once did I say the effort of athletes is worth more than anyone else’s. I said that White has busted his ass his entire life to get where he is. As such, he gets to make a decision as to what’s best for him and his family. That doesn’t make him entitled. I also said that White is better at what he does than the poster criticizing him is at anything he’s ever done in his life, and that’s 100% true. Tens of millions of people play football, and White is one of the 50 best in the world according to his peers. There is nobody on this board who is one of the world’s elite in a field in which millions of people compete. If I’m wrong, and there’s a Nobel prize winning scientist posting here, I’m sure I won’t call him entitled or second guess his life choices. I know when to stay in my lane.

You’re ‘entitled’ to your opinion.

The Bills already saved half a billion dollars by not drafting Mahomes with their pick, might as well save $20,000,000 a year more by not paying White. Then they could draft players with those picks who will either be unworthy of large contracts or who can also be shipped out of town if they’re any good. It’s the perfect plan.

Nobody said anything about taking it personally. He said he didn’t care about what people he doesn’t know say, yet here he is responding to comments by people he doesn’t know about a media session held by a person he doesn’t know. Clearly he does care. This thread is filled with people who feel so entitled to be entertained by a 25 year old man whom they’ve never met that they criticize him for doing what he thinks is best for his health and the well being of his family. It’s disgusting.

These men have busted their asses for their entire lives until they’ve become better at what they do than you will ever be at anything in your life, and you’re calling THEM entitled because you feel the right to be entertained. Wow

...he unironically posted on a social media platform.

Yeah. For example a lot of posters on this board feel victimized by grown men they’ve never met choosing not to play football because they feel it isn’t in the best interest of their families.

Norman was horrific. He was targeted 46 times and gave up 7 TDs. He gave up 10 yards per attempt, and opposing QBs had a rating of 129 when targeting him. He might have been the worst player at any position in the league. I can’t imagine he starts.

So you’d rather have Josh’s passing numbers than Lamar’s if rushing numbers were equal? 20 TDs and 9 INTs over 38-6?

I don’t think anyone is saying that Buffalo ran more than Baltimore, but if you want to add the fact that Allen threw 61 more passes than Lamar over the course of the season despite only completing 6 more passes while throwing for fewer yards, that’s fair. I’m not sure that makes Josh look better vis a vis LJ, but whatever. Might as well include Jackson’s league best 36 TDs and only 6 INTs compared to Josh’s 20 and 9 while we're at it. Od all the bizarre narratives I’ve seen from Allen honks the “Jackson’s passing accomplishments should be discounted because he runs so much” is easily tops. There is no QB more dependent on his running production than Allen.

Nobody in the NFL runs anything even remotely close to the Navy offense. There are no similarities between what Baltimore runs and what Navy runs. Navy’s QB threw 85 passes last season and ran 300 times.

Jackson completed 265 passes. Allen completed 271.