BeastMaster

So if he had sex with a drunk girl (typical college experience) and she then goes on to later go in a house and get attacked, this is a position that none of us could be put into?

But you are saying people need to not put themselves into situations where they can be accused of a crime, and I'm telling you that people can throw out accusations out of the blue. I'm not debating you on whether her allegations have merit

Anyone can accuse anyone of anything

Not really, because we have his lawyer saying they have witnesses saying she was telling people she was 18. And there is a defense in that scenario where the accuser must proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he did know she was a minor. Her lying to people at the party removes reasonable doubt

I agree, and I think that the organization does eventually give in to the mob and cuts ties. I think suspending him with pay until it's resolved is the best option. We have to pay him regardless...it keeps the heat off of the team, and it allows us to keep him if he is proven to have done nothing wrong...instead of a team scooping him up and then they get his services at our expense.

Lots of really bad takes by many here. Guess that comes with having a mega thread where information is limited, and posters don't bother to read. I also think that a possible scenario is that this woman did have sexual relations with Araiza, but went on to later get involved in a situation where she was attacked. Being that Araiza is the meal ticket and headliner for a media frenzy, she links him to the attack and adds him into something that he was not involved with. We don't know, and unless we get more information...we are all left guessing. I'll also say it's easy to just say get rid of him and the problem, but I kinda see that as a surrender to the media and court of public opinion, instead of getting it right. I suppose it depends on what matters to the organization at this point

It appears to me that the Bills are trying to get this right for everyone, and it's costing them in todays world of no patience and lack of fact gathering...just immediate reaction and demand for action. I think the best scenario for them at this point is to suspend him with pay until the organization gets all the information needed to do what they believe is right. Araiza should be thankful that the Bills are taking this on the chin for him, and he should be as cooperative and helpful to their fact finding process as possible. Most teams would have cut him. The Browns and chiefs would keep him, regardless

He didn't make waves during the draft because he didn't want to lose his chance at a nice payday. Let's see what evidence comes out and if criminal charges are filed

You might wanna check the law out on that one From what has been posted here from actual California law, the burden is on the prosecution if the defendant claims he didn't know she was underage. They must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did know Witnesses saying she was claiming to be of age blows that out of the water

This is where the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he knew she was underage The witnesses that heard her saying she was 18 removes reasonable doubt Case dismissed

He doesn't have to. His lawyer claims investigators have witnesses that claim she was saying she was 18

Then he would obviously be cut immediately

Pretty much. Our society now will demand this guy's head without any due process or fact gathering

No, but Mr WEO clearly did

If they have witnesses saying she was claiming it, then it's reasonable to assume she told everyone, including him. Maybe he overheard her say it? Are you trying to claim she told different people different stories? If you're going around saying your 18, then I doubt you are saying something different to others.

What about her lying about her age and drinking while underage? Is that ethical and moral behavior on her part?

Witnesses that can attest to her claiming she was 18 Thanks for playing

This is pretty much the way I am leaning based upon everything I've heard and read. They're going to need DNA, along with witnesses to say he was in that room when the attack occurred in order to find him guilty of anything except possibly having a sexual encounter with a 17 YO that was telling people she was 18. I'm also guessing they don't have that...which is why they dropped the Civil suit at the time it can cause the most damage to Araiza.

But we haven't even reached that point where we know if there will be charges, so the system hasn't even had a chance to fail. Civil suit at this point is indeed a red flag. Having charges and evidence to produce in court would bolster her chances of winning They are proceeding with neither

Which would lend credence to the theory that the Bills investigated this and came to the conclusion that this isn't anything to part with Araiza over at this point. We can only hope this is the case

And they have the witnesses to attest to her claiming she was 18

Nobody said that Try to read what was actually said Saying she has no case has zero to do with saying she deserved it...which nobody here has said.

That's what his lawyer said on the news They are running with the civil suit to try and cash in before it falls apart

That definitely plays into his lawyers investigators that have witnesses that have her saying she was telling people she was 18 The only way this thing has legs is if his DNA was found

A judge or a jury may look at the accuser differently if she was lying about her age the night this apparently took place What else was she not being truthful about if she is lying about her age? There's no telling what her motives could have been. I'm not arguing the legal ramifications of her saying she was 18 Not sure why you keep trying to state that I'm saying it matters. I never said that. Just putting out what his lawyer has been saying