Dukestreetking

Just want to clarify early comment, so I'm not spinning anything up: Not all the imagery I've seen would indicate a VBIED attack, at least that I'm familiar with (ex, lack of cratering, wider blast damage, other). So...12-24 hr definitely applies here.

I'll be very cautious in any comments. Imagery only, not eyes on: some indications of VBIED. Not as big as some of you have encountered down range.

I'm 5 min north of bridge, US side. Very heavy LEO presence in this AO. Also, I have fair amount of VBIED experience. IF I go down there--eyes on--I'll update. Finally, and as we all know, be very wary of first reporting.

Just quick aside Bado: some poster, I think on the PoGT, said he witnessed this exchange, and that Brady was smiling and gave acknowledgement. No idea, maybe different moments...

Dude: trying not to be a DB...criticisms, concerns, misgivings are all fair play. That said, I honestly have to ask: wtf are you doing on this board?

Intrigued by your point... I didn't do a comparative, but looked at DK down-distance results. To me, surprising, but bottom line: he's feasting on down and 10+ yards. Big plus-ups across the board. 33 rec on 35 targets (94.3%!), 308 yds at 9.3y/rec, 12FD, 2TD. Now we're very much into Beasley territory. Don't know about Kelce.

Great line corta! I just did a spit take.

[With apologies, I'm pulling The Richard move and cross-posting this from PGT. Seems more relevant here] Carrying discussion of #86 a little further; nothing profound, but... [1] Bills, or at least TBD, hoped for a "Beasley replacement", primarily as a sure-handed, go-to target/outlet, as well as a chain mover. Conclusion: obviously only a rookie but he's getting there more quickly than I personally anticipated. [2] Top 5 TEs by reception totals are Hock, Engram, Kelce, Kincaid, LaPorta. Normalizing for # targets, etc, it's interesting to look at Rec:Tgt (sure-handed), FD:Tgt (chain mover) ratios, along w Yac/Rec just for s&g. H: 73.5; 39.2; 3.69 E: 79.7; 27.0; 5.17 Ke: 79.1; 41.7; 4.89 Ki: 87.9; 36.2; 4.29 L: 72.4; 36.2; 3.92 Reasonably favorable comparisons imv.** [3] Looking at Beasley 2020, arguably his best year, he had 76.6 target success (Kincaid now at 87.9) and an incredible FD:Tgt rate of .495!! Again, Reuben not there yet, but looking the part. **Realize many other issues on the table: TDs, explosive plays, yds/rec, etc. The data here are admittedly self-selective.

Carrying discussion of #86 a little further; nothing profound, but... [1] Bills, or at least TBD, hoped for a "Beasley replacement", primarily as a sure-handed, go-to target/outlet, as well as a chain mover. Conclusion: obviously only a rookie but he's getting there more quickly than I personally anticipated. [2] Top 5 TEs by reception totals are Hock, Engram, Kelce, Kincaid, LaPorta. Normalizing for #targets, etc, it's interesting to look at Rec:Tgt (sure-handed), FD:Tgt (chain mover) ratios, along w Yac/Rec just for s&g. H: 73.5; 39.2; 3.69 E: 79.7; 27.0; 5.17 Ke: 79.1; 41.7; 4.89 Ki: 87.9; 36.2; 4.29 L: 72.4; 36.2; 3.92 Reasonably favorable comparisons imv.** [3] Looking at Beasley 2020, arguably his best year, he had 76.6 target success (Kincaid now at 87.9) and an incredible FD:Tgt rate of .495!! Again, Reuben not there yet, but looking the part. **Realize many other issues on the table: TDs, explosive plays, yds/rec, etc. The data here are admittedly self-selective.

Check out Kincaid right at the end of this. Great routes, hands, yac, downfield blocking...and literally throwing hands when needed. The Rook ain't fu*king around.

Bills 127-Jests 7...yds, that is

Sorry: late to this, and I don't use social media, except for this board. So here it is. I usually worked in small, joint-task teams of, uhhh, "civilian" operators and Tier 1 Serious Dudes...the real deals. I was not the latter! Very high-speed, low-drag stuff: we did blah, blah, blah/ who really cares now...in many AOs. But this is not about me, and definitely not a plea for an "atta boy". Really, really no kidding. However, I do thank @Fan in Chicago for his consistency on such matters. My bottom line point: RIP to two of my dear friends and teammates, Capt M.P. and to ZW, call sign Moses. Known to so few, gone way to soon, but your memory remains, forever. Also, thanks to all who wore the uniform, combat/no combat...it does not matter. Your sacrifices have no real parallel in the Real World (TM). Respectfully, DSK

Btw, last 4: Fins at a more pedestrian 338 total yards/game. Perhaps the Saints record is safe.

Regardless of interpretation, I will echo @WotAGuy sentiment: great post (and follow-ons) OP. We need more of this.

Freaking great! I think we discussed that once. Anyway, not sure if I can answer a question re "local legend(s)", as I did not grow up in the area. However, I suspect Lew-town residents, 50+ yo, would know about the brothers. Do not know Fergie...as far as I know (!)

Also confused, but I finally figured it out. Paraphrasing, briefly: 1. Several days ago, Sherpa makes insightful comment on naval issues. 2. Joe Ferg acknowledges, then wonders--b/c info so good--if Sherpa is actually a real life Navy ADM he knows, "Anthony". I won't use his last name. 3. Ferg makes follow-on posts re this ADM, then brings in stories re his brother, a fmr Army Captain. 4. Nobody would ever know who Ferg is talking about, but he brings them up again! It just so happens that I do know them, very well. 5. A little pissed, I finally ask what is going on with these obscure references. Since, again, I actually know them. 6. The brothers, and extended family members, have served this country faithfully. That's about it...back to regular programming.

-- "Lighten up, Francis": ok, fair enough, I'll give you that one. Good point. -- To be frank: I was bit in the azz by your blithe, earlier ref to them as "tin soldiers," though I realize the context was as Fort Niagara reenactors. -- Why ticked? Their ~1910s immigrant family (uncles, cousins) has served in every major US military operation since eligible. One uncle: 173rd Abn, WW2 and Korea. Another uncle: Green Beret, with tours in Vietnam and other counter-insurgencies, retired Colonel w 82nd Abn. Cousins: many, many deployments over multiple conflicts, from peacekeeping, to combat engineer, to counter-IED, to XYZ. I've already provided what the brothers themselves did. Point is: theirs is a military family that has gone way above and beyond the call for their country. I hope you realize that use of "tin soldier" (no matter context) anywhere in their vicinity really chafes. Maybe it's just me. -- Yes, I'll agree with you that the stories are funny. But the Capt G. "tree incident" needs context. He definitely had solid reason to toss the m'fer! -- Last: Anthony (nobody calls him Tony) is most definitely not @sherpa!! Ok, 'nuf said.

Dude, wtf is up w your continuing, almost snide fascination re "The Admiral" and his brother? Both brothers served their country with honor and distinction. The latter was Army SoF, deployed w KFOR, etc., then moved on to civilian life. And you know exactly the circumstances re the "tree story"...how? The former, call sign "Ghandi," was F-14 pilot and RIO, Black Knights squadron CO on the Carl Vinson (for @sherpa SA), flew hundreds of combat missions during OIF, OEF, other. Had many other, "no kidding" commands. Turned down a possible VADM slot, and retired an O-8. Also held very high profile assignments as a civilian. Is that enough gouge for you to drop the repeated references?

Agree completely. No sarcasm. Dear Mods: Please add a Hopium emoji-response. We really need it about now. Sincerely, DSK

@Draconator slaps da' bass, man. He's posted some vids uhhh, somewhere around here. Freaking really good: his pinky hammer-ons are ridiculous. Seriously.

Ok, so if I have this correctly, is it fair to say, at least for first half: --Pre-snap protection calls and then communication (Dorsey-17-Oline) were damn good. --Lots of slide protections, understandably, and especially half-slides. As I recall, the latter is your "basic, day 1" call, so it should be relatively "easy" to have full knowledge and execute. --Not dealing with the actual throws: it seems 17 made a couple of drop-back/pocket errors, be they mental or physical. I would then assume that, second half, he was better(?) --First half was not Torrence's finest hour. Again, you're providing really valuable insights; I know it must be time consuming, so I'm especially appreciative.

Hoof: can't thank you enough brother. Read thru all the posts a couple of times. This is incredibly useful insight re what I/others see on the field. My only "critique": this is such a great basis for discussion that it deserves a stand alone thread!

Passing slash lines: data that may only interest me. GroupA: Kinkaid, Cook, Shakir, Murray, Harty, Sherfield GroupB: Diggs, Davis, Knox Rec-Tgt-Yds-Comp%-TD-Ypc-Ypa-PasserRating A: 19-19-191-100-1-10.1-10.1-126.1 B: 8-20-74-40-1-9.3-3.7-46.7

@HoofHearted question/request: If/when you get a chance, can you do 'Line/QB Pass error analysis" for this game? Always interesting, helpful...realize it's probably time-consuming. May be available already in the many threads, but haven't seen it. Thanks.

Agree, and this is kinda strange: Giants game, 2nd down/2nd series, Bills put Gilliam at slot, and he ran a deep out. No split release, just up seam and to the boundary. Looked open.* I don't recall a similar release for DK but I obviously could be wrong. If not, would very much like to see they/him hit this route. *Apologies for repeating myself: I mentioned this in an earlier thread.