FireChans

I have done zero QB e v a l this year because I don’t care about them anymore. But you can’t pass on a QB with the #1 pick in back to back years with a question mark at QB. Even for an MHJ. If you pass on Caleb and he’s a franchise QB, you’re cooked. If you roll the dice and he flames out, at least you took the shot. I agree with you they waited too long on Fields probably but I also think his price that was talked about was a huge overestimate. I get they were talking about a second because of the Darnold deal years back, but Darnold had a lot of scouts and FO’s in love with him and was talked about as the #1 QB prospect for 2 years. Fields was never the same prospect and has proven to be exactly who they thought he was in Chicago for 3 seasons now. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bears got offered a 4th, balked, and now there’s no deal left.

I’m sneaky starting to think they are gonna keep Fields, let him flame out the first two games, and then it’s Caleb’s team.

Brandon Beane’s idea of assembling a team resulted in Trent Sherfield whiffing on passes in the biggest game of the season which was the last one. Don’t piss on our heads and tell us it’s raining. The WR room has been atrocious since 2020 and got worse every year.

I think that ship has sailed. Washington and NE traded away their QB’s. And, IMO, there’s no chance the Bears don’t take Caleb.

The Chiefs are lucky that their #1 target in Kelce only dictates top TE money which is considerably less than top WR money. They were also blessed that Tyreek didn’t have the same reputation he does now when he was first extended, and neither did Kelce. They had two HoF targets averaging a total of $27M in salary when Mahomes was starting out. Even now, Kelces AAV is only $14M. Buffalo has to deal with the problem in a different way because we don’t have Kelce and we didn’t have a Tyreek. The thing that I and quite a few others have pounded the table for since 2020, since Diggs was still elite and was going to be paid quite heavily, was to continually draft WR’s to give cost-controlled targets to Allen that we could just let walk while Diggs maintained his elite status and elite paycheck. And if Diggs lost a step, you could cut bait, extend out the most promising young guy, and keep the good times rolling. Unfortunately, Brandon Beane forgot about the WR position, which is why we never had a serious backup for Davis/Diggs and why WR has been a need for like 3 seasons now. It’s why Trent Sherfield was put in a position to lose us playoff games because he is barely an NFL player. It’s why two seasons ago, we had to bring in the corpses of Beasley and Brown mid season. It would be so easy to draft a day 2 WR every other year, and keep a revolving door of cheap, talented guys around Josh, and have quality backups for the boundary instead of having Trent and Kumerow and whatever other bargain bums we signed. The Steelers did this strategy for years when Big Ben was still a great QB. They had (I’m blanking on the name)/Antonio Brown making big bucks, and they drafted Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders, Diontae Johnson, Martavis Bryant etc etc. Results varied of course, but a lot of those guys had some good quality seasons and quite a few of them carved out good careers. None of them got big money extensions with the Steelers. Josh Allen has his best season when he had one of his best OL (you could argue 2023 was better) and he had his best stable of targets in 2020. That WR room was stacked. Diggs, Beasley, John Brown, Davis. It has only gotten worse from their because Beane continually failed to spend appropriate assets maintaining it. This was all predictable, and imo, the biggest black eye for our front office that has otherwise done a pretty good job.

Meh, they don’t really hit all that well. Mecole was less than nothing in Jets land. Sky Moore is an actual bust. Pringle has had 24 catches in the 2 years since leaving KC. Mahomes really makes them all.

I mean, you could make the same kind of comments about the Bills organization. We have been a joke for about 20 years straight, and signed our own death warrant trading the Mahomes pick to an in conference team to torment us. You’re saying maybe a rookie S. Who is playing FS in our system, if not a rookie S? Hamlin? That makes our S group very very very bad.

Their QB is greater. Never.

Allen has maybe 2 good year left? I think he’s the classic case of getting rid of a guy 1 year too early rather than 1 year too late.

The haterz are furious that I have taken over the breaking news game. im like @YoloinOhio in his prime.

The lesson that surrounding Josh with weapons = good, and we are a twisted ankle away from Trent Sherfield 2.0 running routes and alligator arming passes.

Samuel >>>> Armstead all day.

If your argument is that 5th and 7th round safeties can grow into quality and even high-end starters after a couple of years, Poyer and Hyde are great examples. If your argument is that 5th and 7th round safeties can start right away and be serviceable, they are terrible examples.

This is extremely defeatist of me, but I am concerned they are not going to learn their lesson about WR and the first round WR may not be coming now.

Games started as rookies: 3 0. I think you should stick to checkers.

thank u beane god

Yeah okay. let’s look at 2023. There were 6 safeties drafted in the fifth round. They started 2 7 0 (IR) 3 4 0 games, respectively. Love that.

I think they are trying to win the Superbowl

Oh this year for sure. But in previous years, we would somehow beat KC in the regular season, and still end up the 2 seed or lower because Allen dropped a couple games and the Chiefs would be hosting the AFCCG. I know folks don’t want to hear that, but if the Bills had playoff homefield for like 6 years straight, we probably have broken through by now.

The other difference is that Allen throws away a couple games during the regular season that costs us byes and #1 seeds.

Most elite RB with less than 200 yards from scrimmage last year.

that’s both true. However, you said that 5 or 6 of our drafts picks could be serious contributors in 2024. That’s very unlikely and a bad plan. If that happened, it’s probably the best draft in Bills history. Developmental depth doesn’t make your team better than solid experienced vets. That’s why they are called “developmental.” Because they suck and you are trying to develop them into not sucking. Ultimately, that is the fatal flaw in your premise. Yes, the Bills need to and will get much younger. That’s exciting. However this will make them a worse team in 2024. Probably not by much, but unless they have an unbelievable draft class, it’s pretty much guaranteed to be worse. Sherfield dropped gigantic passes in our playoff loss to KC. He’s a bum, so what do you expect, but he played a large role in the loss. anyway, Gabe signed a big deal and I don’t think Trent is on a team, so it sounds like no NFL team was slavering over his 1 seven yard reception in the postseason.

Well, we all know that you thought Sherfield was gonna be a big WR contributor in the postseason. For those keeping score at home, Trent finished his postseason with 3 targets, 1 catch and 7 total yards. So maybe you aren't the bees knees at WR e v a l.

Time to fire Beane

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