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How many Dolphins fans are sick that Marino never won a ring

Fair enough I would consider never reaching the mountaintop with likely the most talented QB the team will ever have to be a catastrophe. So that paints the opinions. And I consider Josh Allen to be 90% of architect of that success that we have already had.

Everyone has answered this question every year lol

dilfer was okay, not great. Okay let’s put it this way. would you consider it a failure if the Bills never won a ring with Josh Allen? I would, personally. Despite enjoying every single season far immensely more than I enjoyed the drought. Thats all.

Yep. Morrison is the exact player that this regime passes on and if/when he hits, it will pay off massively. If his medicals are bad and he’s there, I would take him. On the field, he has a chance to be one of the great CBs in an NFL with very few left.

I take away from this game that Mahomes isn’t as good as advertised and I hope the Bills players take that away too. He can be flustered and he can play like dog ***** until garbage time. To me, this game was far different from his performance in 2020. Mahomes also sucked that game, but it was less of a personal disaster. Last week, Mahomes was the #1 problem with the Chiefs offense. The Eagles helped him along but Mahomes was the Chief (get it) architect of the beat down.

He was 100% gonna retire if they won and now he’s wondering if he should go out like that. I bet he’s back

The Browns trading their HoF pass rusher to give a 2nd tier RB big money is so drought Bills/Browns, it actually has a shot lol.

They honestly did a really ugly job replenishing the talent in those groups. Reminded me of Beane’s strategy to build the OL years ago. Bring in 3-4 bargain bin guys and play the best ones. I think WR the position has the value where burning a high pick even if it doesn’t work is good value. A second on a safety when DB development is our HC’s specialty and that second round pick having a disastrous rookie year is like worst case scenario across the board. Bad value, bad process, AND bad outcome.

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How do you look at Dan Marino’s career

Totally. Harbaugh has had 3 coordinator changes in the last 4 years. Only one was poached. It happens.

ST coordinators aren’t the same as OC’s and DC’s lol. ST coordinators mean very little.

Josh Allen just won MVP because he dragged this crew to the AFCCG. The league has spoken. They aren’t underrating this roster, you are overrating it.

It was nice knowing you James. What do we think he’d fetch in a trade now?

When you suck worse in coverage than Damar Hamlin who also sucks, you kinda don’t want that guy on the field. Even Keon started week 1 and he was arguably not even ready to start but showed enough good things. Anyway, back on topic, I like Holland a lot, I think he would improve our back-end a lot, but I don’t like the Bills spending a second round pick on a safety then signing the best FA safety on the market. Just seems like bad business.

He sucked in almost all of them. Are you still a “play Elam more” guy or can we admit that sometimes guys really don’t deserve to play more?

The larger point is that it’s really hard to keep a really good defensive unit year after year. The Pats, overseen by the greatest defensive coach in NFL history, had an 11 year stretch outside of the top 10 in yards allowed. They were opportunistic and forced TO’s but not that great otherwise.

Do you think Beane wants to draft good defensive linemen but McD tells him to draft crappy ones instead? What is the argument here

I think it’s more that folks trust Josh + good receivers to deliver in crunch time over defense with additional stars coached by McD. Thats really it.

I disagree entirely. josh had the ball in his hands with 3 min to go down 3. We also could’ve gone up two scores without resorting to a QB sneak that was called short. We legitimately were one receiver other than Mack Hollins delivering on offense from winning that game.

Yes philosophically the chiefs are playing chess to our checkers when it comes to WR. I guess my point was that good vs bad process doesn’t matter as much if you get the right guy. it’s the ultimate make-up. If Beane had nailed BTJ instead of Coleman or Worthy or whoever, it erases what, 2 years of WR mistakes? It honestly does.

KC’s WR room was so bad post Hill they had to trade for Toney and Hopkins. Huh? Are we still talking about the same team lol

You can say that, and you have a fair point but the other point is that WR would still be glaring need in 2025 even if we had pulled the trigger on a BTJ trade, but we would all feel much better about the WR group in general. You can give a guy grace on individual failures but individual successes make all the difference.

Keon isn’t good enough to have 3x more touches. Obviously. As evidenced by him having 8 targets in the playoffs and ending up with 3 catches for 22 yards lol. But hey, don’t take it from me, take it from the guy who drafted him. “I wish he had finished the season stronger,” Beane said in his Thursday morning press conference “I would say probably was a little disappointed in the return from the injury,” he said about Coleman’s final six games. “I did not see the same player down the stretch from a physicality, some of the things that he needs to use his size.” Make sure you write a letter to One Bills Drive and let the GM who drafted him with this first pick that he was wrong for being disappointed in Coleman’s performance and that he was actually awesome.