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This is the reason it happened imo.

Was that right before the clock hit zero and they lost? Are we really caping for playoff Lamar in defense of the Bills talent? We went in with the gameplan of “sell out to stop Henry, make Lamar beat us.” Lamar had 2 massive TO’s in the first half and went into halftime down 10. The guy with 4 picks in the SEASON had 2 TO’s in the playoffs. He’s a choker. It’s okay.

Excuse me. we call that the Shaq Lawson, Reggie Ragland, Adolphus Washington draft around these parts. The REXIT draft.

What oversimplification? are you of the opinion that Lamar’s turnovers weren’t a reason they lost?

Imagine if we had a couple All-Pro caliber safeties, with an All-Pro Caliber slot DB, and an all-Pro caliber off ball linebacker. No chance we’d let up 38.

Russell Wilson was a ProBowler in 2024 do you think that should appreciably add value to the Seahawks picking him in 2012? I’ll hang up and listen.

Their QB is a notorious playoff choker and turned it over a lot. The bad news is WR was the strength of last years draft class and we are here.

That’s very fair as someone who watched a lot of Chiefs games as well. They honestly played like they were taking a significant amount of snaps off across the board. but interior pass rushers took a real step back as a group in 2024 tbh. No AD. The usual suspects like Jeffrey Simmons, Quinnen Williams, Dexter Lawrence etc were all either on dog ***** defenses or hurt or just saw their level of play drop. Lawrence was actually pretty good statistically but his team and defense was so bad I kinda get why he didn’t get a nod.

I respect your opinion but I think you are incorrect. Josh came in very raw. And young. Much higher ceiling. Keon is also very raw. Young. Much higher ceiling. Kincaid was not raw. He was old. There’s less room to grow when you come into the NFL at 24 instead of 21. You aren’t going to grow into your body much more. I think there’s a better chance Kincaid’s rookie year is one of the best years of his career than there is that he turns into an All Pro next year. It’s wild. Dorian “spinning like a top on HB misdirection” Williams is more talented than Roquan “3x first team All-Pro” Smith. Lol

Yeah, I would consider it a significant disappointment that the pinnacle of the team with Josh Allen at QB is losing in the AFCCG twice. You had some clarity that this team wasn’t good enough but you are falling back into your old ways. Shakir is gonna be the next Antonio Brown sans the crazy, Dorian is better than Roquan, Kincaid is Tony Gonzalez and not a geriatric disappointing 3rd year player. What is next lol

🫨 It’s not really prisoner of the moment. I have been banging this drum for years. It’s Josh and the guys. Always has been. guys like Greg and Ed and Kincaid and Knox and Shakir etc etc etc etc through the years are all good but have not been good enough. Obviously. Same as it was with them and their previous iterations in 2022. It’s nothing new.

Chris Jones was a fraudulent first team All-Pro in 2024?

How many days are we removed from you saying Kincaid was the next Kelce? Now Dorian is more talented than Roquan? What is next

Kincaid is going to be 26 next season. For reference, Josh was 26 in the 2022 season. It’s not a lost cause for Kincaid but it’s not “early.”

I find myself getting banned far less when I add a targeted “lol” in my takes to keep it light.

I mean, I think he starts for a lot of teams. You are acting like he’s a total bum. You said he wouldn’t start for “anybody” lol. Hyde and Poyer also got AP nods while they were Bills. I guess the AP just got hoodwinked and they were also trash JAGs.

His biggest weakness is pass protection. It kept him off the field as a rookie and even though he’s improved, it still keeps him off the field.

Taylor Rapp started like the majority of his entire rookie deal in LA lol. Are you joking?

Your elite list would not be mine. You have a good/very good list for the most part. Allen, Brown, Dawkins and maybe Benford. That’s it. James Cook is VERY good and imo still a step behind Henry, Barkley and a healthy CMC. Shakir had 900 yards. Good slot with elite slot traits. Not elite. Taron and Milano are living off their names a little bit. Milano shook off some rust towards the end, but I’m not sure he’s the same guy he was 2 years ago. Ditto with Taron. He got banged up but he’s had probably his worst year as our slot since like 2020.

I think I just did. Now when you do the 2025 annual wAV analysis you can add a disclaimer about how the ProBowl is simultaneously a complete joke and also an integral part of your formula.

I think McD is a better coach than Beane is a GM. And both are good. The problem is that the QB gap between the Bills and the Chiefs is much smaller than the coaching/GM gap. Which is stark. as @GoBills808 said, Beane and McD are lockstep. Beane picks the players but their vision is shared. The roster is 100% overrated on TBD. These folks will argue Allen deserves MVP for dragging a bunch of bums to the AFCCG, then praise the GM for assembling this group. It’s bizarre lol.

Is ProBowl accounted for in AV assessment? Sounds like your AV methodology is cooked.

Our entire UFA group this offseason is a whose who of JAGs that either started or heavily contributed to the Bills this year. Ty, Reggie, Smoot, Toohill, Phillips, QJ, Hamlin lmao. Then you add the older, semi-washed mercenaries like Douglas and Cooper. How many of these dudes are getting a contract of $10M AAV or more? Maybe one? That’s one guy getting the tied for 222nd highest salary in the NFL. Very funny

They were playoff teams both those years FYI.

KC fans and Philly fans are doing just fine without the Bills I think.