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There’s something funny about arguing that we can’t upgrade the offense AND the defense next year. Like we have to choose one? Or is it because we have so little faith in the Bills brass to successfully improve both? They have 10 draft picks and more cap space than last year, but we can’t expect improvement because we need 10 picks on DL alone?

The surefire way to be very competitive and compete for Super Bowls is to continually draft dominant all pro and HoF level players. The Seahawks went from an average to mediocre team and over the course of 2-3 drafts acquired the core group of that SB team. They never drafted that well again and they slipped right back into who they were before. Even Belichick, the greatest defensive coach ever, had multiple years with a BAD defense because they didn’t have the horses. Jimmies and Joes matter so much more than folks give them credit. It’s an actual crime that I don’t know who was in charge of the FO in those Steelers days when everyone knows Chuck.

Stefon Diggs was acquired five years ago lol.

Its certainly possible but I doubt it. I felt that way about Darnell Mooney last year and he got $13M AAV. Teams are getting smarter.

Man, this is so revisionist. Chuck took over a 2-11-1 team. Drafted Joe Greene (DROY/HOF) and Greenwood. They then went 1-13. Drafted Bradshaw (HoF) and Mel Blount (HoF). Then they went 5-9. Drafted another HoF player in Jack Ham. Then they went 6-8. Finally drafted Franco Harris (HoF). The table was set for most coaches to do very well with that influx. NFL coaches have this weird mythical power when it comes to talking about their ability. The reality is that there are a lot of solid/good coaches and a lot of bad coaches. And that difference is very narrow. “Build culture and legacy” by drafting a bunch of HoF players all the time. We see this play out time and again. Bill Belichick was mediocre without his HoF QB. His culture in New England is in shambles because they don’t have enough good players. How could that happen, with the most buttoned up coach with a strong culture in recent NFL history? Oh, it’s because all of that is fairy dust nonsense. Maybe Chan Gailey wins 4 Superbowls if he drafted Tom Brady. Does it make him a great coach or does it mean that coaches aren’t that freaking important? For the truly inept, unprofessional, unserious organizations, sure you’d like a culture setter instead of a buffoon. But that’s about it.

Elam is getting a 7th round pick swap at this point at best. He is approaching negative value now. If you wanted anything substantial for him, he needed to be traded 2 years ago.

Who do you like that’s better in FA and at what price.

Knowing how this staff values system familiarity, Jackson may have the best value-price point. He may not be the best CB on the market, but he’s probably the best CB we can get in our system for a super modest deal.

You could squint your eyes, pay Benford, sign DJ and let the board come to you at CB in April. I’m all for it. Clearly a guy who benefitted from McD and his scheme but that’s okay.

Every class is different but id like to point out the top WR’s from the drafts AFTER historic WR drafts: 2021 Chase 5 Waddle 6 Smith 10 Toney 20 Bateman 27 Moore 34 R Moore 49 Eskridge 56 Atwell 57 Marshall 59 Palmer 77 Dynami Brown 82 2015 - Cooper 4 Kevin White 7 Devante Parker 14 Agoholor 20 Perriman 26 Dorsett 29 Devin Smith 37 DGB 40 Funchess 41 Lockett 69 Strong 70 Conley 76 Sammy Coates 87 Obviously the league has changed a lot and more talented athletes are playing WR, but there’s a lot of disappointing players after the top few when the class prior had an excess of WR talent.

Do you think Hailee lives in Buffalo full time?

Bring him home!

Agreed. Imagine where the Bills would be today if they had gotten rid of Rex, Whaley and Tyrod. I shudder to think about the alternative.

I think McD and Beane have run their course, and I can admit if you told me I could get Josh with the ball in his hands down 3 with 3 minutes left, I would take it every time, regardless of coach or even talent around him. Thats not being unfair

Ok

Oh man one bad rushing game let me tell you about McD’s defense lmao

The Bills were arguably the worst team in football in the not too distant past lol

While I find it very comical how indignant fans get regarding this topic, it’s not really out of the realm of possibility. Most elite franchise guys don’t move but some have. I think there’s very good odds Josh is the Bills QB until he retires, but I think Pats fans said the same about Brady for 20 years. And he’s the greatest ever and had done all there was to do. Weird things happen. If Josh decided to walk without winning one here, I would probably hate him for a long time unless we turned around and got a great replacement.

Exactly. We also drafted CJ Spiller too!

Schwartz 2017 D was #1 against the rush lol. it was a bad take. It’s ok

Yeah and Josh Allen in 2019 took the Bills to 10 wins and the playoffs. Bryce Young in his second season was benched for Andy Dalton and was 4-8 as a starter. Ignoring the obvious difference between QBs and safeties, I’m not saying Bishop’s career is over or that he’s toast. What I’m saying is that when Beane and co draft a DB high like that, especially in a position group that is talent bereft, you have to think the expectation was to see more than what we did from Bishop. Which is not dissimilar to what happened with Elam. If you recall, Elam was their high CB target and he had very limited competition for that job. He couldn’t take it and that was a bad sign. Not every player is gonna be Tre White and be very good from the jump. There are levels to this. I think everyone including the Bills FO feels worse about Bishops chances than they did last April. Do you disagree?

I mean, Bryce Young had a nice stretch where he wasn’t arguably the worst QB in football. Are you putting money on him being the next star QB?

He’s not going to be a superstar if he can’t beat out a slow as molasses complete liability 6th round pick career backup. Listen, I’m not giving up on Bishop yet. But the light needs to come on, soon, to justify his draft position. His rookie year was about as worst case scenario as it comes. He was lost out there. He may have had the worst rookie season out of a Bills highly drafted player that I have seen in quite a while. Even Elam showed some promise (that quickly evaporated).

Who was the last zillionaire 20 something that we signed in FA?

The argument that Bishop needed to be a superstar to beat out Damar Hamlin is kinda nuts.