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Brandon Beane got the most important position right. He knocked it out of the park. It’s the rest of his body of work I take issue with. There was once a young GM in Indianapolis. He nailed his QB pick and had 3 straight seasons of 11 wins and playoff runs. They had some bad injury luck, failed to build around their QB (leading to his retirement) and that GM was fired. During his tenure, they were fifth in total wins in the NFL. Was he a truly top 5 GM in those days? Do we look back at Ryan Grigson and say man, that guy was great? No, of course not. Are we going to look back at the first 7 years of Josh’s career 10 years from now and talk about how great of a job everyone around him did? I don’t think so.

Huh?

Pls add Mack Hollins as option

Im arguing having less wins than the Ravens with the far superior QB is not the feather in his cap you think it is.

I actually think McD is a top 10 coach for what it’s worth. I just think Beane (and McD) are far too secure in their jobs. They won’t get fired ever because Josh Allen will drag this team to WC weekend regardless of what ST bums they out around him. And folks will watch Allen rush for 20 TD’s and end his career prematurely and say Beane is doing great because we have the 4th best record. Kind of a crappy situation imo.

Yes, I wish the Brandon Beane that acquired Diggs, Beasley, Brown and Davis came out to play in last 4 years.

Beane arrived in 2017. Pretty sure that’s more than 5 years ago. I can count AND lmao.

It’s not a fact. It’s actually incorrect lmao.

It’s certainly possible. We’ll never know. The only part I don’t agree with is that we “know” that he had Coleman ranked ahead of Worthy.

i guess that’s one way to look at it. Then again, our FO valued Deonte Harty and Trent Sherfield last off-season so maybe an appeal to Bill authority isn’t the most convincing argument when it comes to WR e v a l. No, they don’t. Anyway, Josh Allen is very good at football. It makes me sad watching him throw passes that go through Trent Sherfield’s hands in playoff losses. If you consider those very good accomplishments instead, more power to you.

When Puka Nacua joined the Rams, Cooper Kupp already had a 1900 yard season in the NFL and a SB MVP. When Sam LaPorta joined the Lions, St. Brown had over 2k yards and 11 TD’s through two seasons. When Rice joined the Chiefs, Travis Kelce was already a surefire HoFer, a two time champion, and probably the best TE of all time. When Keon Coleman joined the Bills, Shakir had 611 yards and 2 TD’s. Curtis Samuel also was coming off 600+ yards. Kincaid was coming off 600+ yards. are we getting punk’d?

His approach has certainly worked…..

He didn’t win a ring for the Cardinals lmao. Incredible self-own Apparently not. None of us work for the Bills. We don’t know anymore than they do. So why listen to anyone at all ever? Why listen to Daniel Jeremiah? He doesn’t have the resources Brandon Beane has, right? Waste of time.

If fans discussing the team and their opinions on the players, coaches and GM’s holds no interest in you, why come to TBD at all? It can’t be to debate PSL’s. After all, the Pegula business people know best. Is it to look at photo renderings of the new stadium?

This is where the “establish an offensive HC” argument has merit imo. by the same token, BB established his defensive philosophy for 20+ years and almost always had them humming in points allowed and turnovers. And defenses are harder to keep them together. I do think McD’s inability or lack of desire to have much input on the offensive side works against us a bit.

Hard disagree. Unless like @GunnerBill said, we get someone that internally demoted him. Like a BB or Shanny or Payton. Beane learned at the test of the 2010s Carolina Panthers. That’s who he is.

The late round picks clearly had zero value based on the trades being made. I think it would’ve been a steal

You can’t be sure.you weren’t there

Were you? My contention is that we have no idea how close or far away Worthy was ranked in regards to Coleman. Because they didn’t choose between Worthy or Coleman, like they did Coleman and McConkey. Otherwise, I could argue they ranked Coleman higher that Odunze. They picked Coleman and didn’t make a move for Odunze after all

I mean KC could've selected Coleman, right?

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Because they didn’t want Worthy at 28 doesn’t mean they wouldn’t take him at 33. Because they clearly didn’t want Coleman at 28. And they did take him at 33. This is obvious logic.

How do you know they didn’t have early second round grades on Coleman AND Worthy and didn’t want to take either at 28? you don’t.

Beane saw Trent Sherfield alligator arms in the divisional round and said, “that’s the kind of ***** this team needs!”

I think in 2024 even if that DT and S are HoFers it won’t make enough of a difference